splitting keywords, was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans

2024-06-28 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> I would hope to split this arch into the two endianness, but I suspect > nobody has the energy to do it. Oh well. [...] > Dev arch. I don't have much info on it, but I heard some mess with > riscv32 and riscv64, so maybe time to split it? I leave it to riscv arch > team, which works quite well,

Re: x86 FP issues (Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans)

2024-06-27 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 2024-06-26 at 01:20 +0100, Sam James wrote: > Arthur Zamarin writes: > > > Hi all, this will be a long mail, and might be confusing, I'll try to > > organize it, but this is a mess, so bear with me. > > [...] > > 32-bit arches > > > > This includes stable arches x86,

32bit vs 64bit, was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans

2024-06-26 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> 32-bit arches > > This includes stable arches x86, arm, ppc, sparc32, dev arches s390, and > maybe more. Those are in much worse situation, with a mess on various > fronts, some of them super hard to continue support. For example > qtwebengine is less and less likely to manage

Re: ia64, was: Re: Misc arch plans (Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans)

2024-06-26 Thread matoro
On 2024-06-26 16:29, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > ia64 > > Dev 64-bit arch. Kernel dropped support, glibc dropped support, devbox > died - days are short before full exp status or full removal of arch. Yeah, no interest in ia64, sorry. I'd like it to just go. This is probably

ia64, was: Re: Misc arch plans (Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans)

2024-06-26 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> > ia64 > > > > Dev 64-bit arch. Kernel dropped support, glibc dropped support, devbox > > died - days are short before full exp status or full removal of arch. > > Yeah, no interest in ia64, sorry. I'd like it to just go. This is probably unavoidable given that our devbox and

riscv, was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans

2024-06-26 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> riscv > > Dev arch. I don't have much info on it, but I heard some mess with > riscv32 and riscv64, so maybe time to split it? I leave it to riscv arch > team, which works quite well, but I'll be happy to open discussion for it. riscv is something new and growing, but for now

Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans

2024-06-26 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> alpha > > Exp arch, with nearly (or maybe already) full correct dep-tree. matoro > did a lot of great work here, so I think we should promote it to dev > arch, so dep-tree remains unbroken. We dekeyworded a lot of stuff, > cleaned it up, so a nice "completion bonus". > >

nomenclature, was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans

2024-06-26 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
> As you all know, Gentoo supports many various arches, in various degrees > (stable, dev, exp). Let me explain those 3 statuses fast: > > * stable arch - meaning we have stable profile for this arch, and stable > keywords across base-system + varying degree of seriousness. We stable > stuff

x86 FP issues (Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans)

2024-06-25 Thread Sam James
Arthur Zamarin writes: > Hi all, this will be a long mail, and might be confusing, I'll try to > organize it, but this is a mess, so bear with me. > [...] > 32-bit arches > > This includes stable arches x86, arm, ppc, sparc32, dev arches s390, and > maybe more. Those are in

time64 & LFS for 32-bit arches (Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans)

2024-06-25 Thread Sam James
Arthur Zamarin writes: > Hi all, this will be a long mail, and might be confusing, I'll try to > organize it, but this is a mess, so bear with me. > > 32-bit arches > > This includes stable arches x86, arm, ppc, sparc32, dev arches s390, and > maybe more. Those are in much

On the value (or not?) of stable keywords (Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans)

2024-06-25 Thread Sam James
Arthur Zamarin writes: > Hi all, this will be a long mail, and might be confusing, I'll try to > organize it, but this is a mess, so bear with me. > > [...] > 32-bit arches > > This includes stable arches x86, arm, ppc, sparc32, dev arches s390, and > maybe more. Those are in

Misc arch plans (Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans)

2024-06-25 Thread Sam James
Arthur Zamarin writes: > Hi all, this will be a long mail, and might be confusing, I'll try to > organize it, but this is a mess, so bear with me. > > [...] > > 32-bit arches > > This includes stable arches x86, arm, ppc, sparc32, dev arches s390, and > maybe more. Those are in

Notion of stable depgraph vs stable keywords (Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans)

2024-06-25 Thread Sam James
Arthur Zamarin writes: > Hi all, this will be a long mail, and might be confusing, I'll try to > organize it, but this is a mess, so bear with me. Absolutely - thanks for doing this. I'm going to split my replies with alt subject to help keep it organised. > > As you all know, Gentoo supports

Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans

2024-06-25 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Tue, 2024-06-25 at 20:33 +0300, Arthur Zamarin wrote: > x86 > > Stable 32-bit arch. I'll be honest, I don't believe at all this should > be stable arch anymore. I propose making it dev arch, and mass-dekeyword > stuff we got because of inertia. This arch is close to HW die.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans

2024-06-25 Thread matoro
On 2024-06-25 13:33, Arthur Zamarin wrote: So, are you ready for seeing the mess? Here we go. Thanks Arthur, I can add some input as another AT. 32-bit arches This includes stable arches x86, arm, ppc, sparc32, dev arches s390, and maybe more. Those are in much worse

[gentoo-dev] Arch Status and Future Plans

2024-06-25 Thread Arthur Zamarin
Hi all, this will be a long mail, and might be confusing, I'll try to organize it, but this is a mess, so bear with me. As you all know, Gentoo supports many various arches, in various degrees (stable, dev, exp). Let me explain those 3 statuses fast: * stable arch - meaning we have stable