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On 01/06/2011 04:08 μμ, Peter Volkov wrote:
> В Пнд, 30/05/2011 в 14:55 -0700, Brian Harring пишет:
>> The problem is, that's a *fuzzy* definition.
>
> Ok, let's start with something and then we'll add more items if
> required. Currently I'd like t
Nathan Phillip Brink posted on Wed, 01 Jun 2011 11:30:21 -0400 as
excerpted:
> On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 04:15:31PM +0100, Markos Chandras wrote:
>> On 01/06/2011 04:08 , Peter Volkov wrote:
>> > ?? ??, 30/05/2011 ?? 14:55 -0700, Brian Harring ??:
>> >> The problem is, that's a *fuzz
Peter Volkov posted on Thu, 02 Jun 2011 09:09:04 +0400 as excerpted:
>> One of the huge benefits in using git would be really fast emerge
>> --syncs. Not having some kind of system for migrating users to git
>> seems like a lot of the benefits are lost.
>
> Is git faster then rsync? I've never do
On 06/01/2011 06:15 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
> On 01/06/2011 04:08 ¼¼, Peter Volkov wrote:
>> =4, 30/05/2011 2 14:55 -0700, Brian Harring ?8H5B:
>>> The problem is, that's a *fuzzy* definition.
>
>> Ok, let's start with something and then we'll add more items if
>> required. Currently I'd li
On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 04:15:31PM +0100, Markos Chandras wrote:
> On 01/06/2011 04:08 , Peter Volkov wrote:
> > ?? ??, 30/05/2011 ?? 14:55 -0700, Brian Harring ??:
> >> The problem is, that's a *fuzzy* definition.
> >
> > Ok, let's start with something and then we'll add more ite
On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 18:27:04 +0300
Samuli Suominen wrote:
> Wouldn't it be better to just trust devs to use common sense in what
> gets into ChangeLogs, and actually be grateful about if they take the
> time to sensor the crap out from it, and scrap the whole topic?
This whole thing came about be
Am Mittwoch 01 Juni 2011, 17:27:04 schrieb Samuli Suominen:
> Wouldn't it be better to just trust devs to use common sense in what
> gets into ChangeLogs, and actually be grateful about if they take the
> time to sensor the crap out from it, and scrap the whole topic?
The problem is, not everyone
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:09 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> Am Mittwoch 01 Juni 2011, 17:27:04 schrieb Samuli Suominen:
>
>> Wouldn't it be better to just trust devs to use common sense in what
>> gets into ChangeLogs, and actually be grateful about if they take the
>> time to sensor the crap out
> So we come back to the problem being *CVS* not ChangeLog rules.
Well of course we can just tell everyone "go look it up on sources.gentoo.org".
However, this is a different discussion.
> All this is such a massive waste of time. Can't we just expend this
> energy on the move to git?
Ack, thi
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
>
>> So we come back to the problem being *CVS* not ChangeLog rules.
>
> Well of course we can just tell everyone "go look it up on
> sources.gentoo.org".
> However, this is a different discussion.
>
sources.gentoo.org is a much worse (an
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
> The current "every change" policy goes overboard, I doubt anyone
> disagrees, but it's worth repeating the point someone else made already,
> every added exception makes the rule harder to remember. The four
> numbered excepti
Rich Freeman wrote:
I think that we need a simple policy like:
Write up Changelogs for any change that impacts what gets installed on
our user's computers.
Then we can write up some guidelines about how to apply this policy in practice.
I think the problem is that we're getting a bit legalisti
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On 01-06-2011 19:50, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Andreas K. Huettel
> wrote:
>>
>>> So we come back to the problem being *CVS* not ChangeLog rules.
>>
>> Well of course we can just tell everyone "go look it up on
>> sou
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
wrote:
> To be clear I support the goal to move our tree to git.
> However, I'd like to point out that simply moving to git will leave us
> in the same state. Assuming everyone agrees that git is far more useful
> than cvs to check for cha
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On 01-06-2011 22:59, Rich Freeman wrote:
> I think the problem is that we're getting a bit legalistic here. I
> have no idea why we even needed the policy change. IMHO what should
> happen is:
>
> 1. Dev does something significant and doesn't upda
В Срд, 01/06/2011 в 19:37 -0400, Matt Turner пишет:
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
> wrote:
> > To be clear I support the goal to move our tree to git.
> > However, I'd like to point out that simply moving to git will leave us
> > in the same state.
++
ChangeLog file
On 2011-06-02 8:09 AM, Peter Volkov wrote:
> ChangeLog files are text to be distributed to our users so they are
> completely independent of vcs we use.
Just ditch the Changelogs and be done with it. The only objection I
know is that changelogs act as a NEWS file. Well, it is not a good
enough r
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
wrote:
> On 01-06-2011 19:50, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
>> The current situation is:
>>
>> (a) Not dire.
>> (b) Not urgent.
>
> (c) has irked enough developers and users that people pushed council to
> update the policy about the use of Chan
On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 16:35:24 +0530
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
> > (c) has irked enough developers and users that people pushed
> > council to update the policy about the use of ChangeLogs.
>
> Yes, and I'm surprised that these same developers pushed towards a
> negative solution (kick productive peop
On 06/02/11 09:40, Eray Aslan wrote:
>> Is git faster then rsync? I've never done any checks but it'll be
>> surprising if it will.
>
> Git usually is faster - except the initial clone. Basically, rsync
> protocol scales with the project size not with change size.
We're discussing performance o
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On 01-06-2011 15:34, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Jun 2011 18:27:04 +0300
> Samuli Suominen wrote:
>> Wouldn't it be better to just trust devs to use common sense in what
>> gets into ChangeLogs, and actually be grateful about if they take the
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:05 AM, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
> wrote:
>> (c) has irked enough developers and users that people pushed council to
>> update the policy about the use of ChangeLogs.
>
>
> Yes, and I'm surprised that these same d
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