Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: libpng-1.5 smooth upgrade

2011-02-27 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 26/02/2011 17:08, Enrico Weigelt a écrit : > I could imagine a way like that: [...] Or we can do it like distributions always do (at least we do) : 1) find packages that don't work out of the box with libpng 1.5 2) work with upstream to fix them Really, libpng15 is to libpng14 what gtk3 is to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: libpng-1.5 smooth upgrade

2011-02-26 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Diego Elio Pettenò schrieb: > What I had in mind was something that would work for upstreams as well, > mostly by having fallback; so if a package supported up to libpng 1.4 it > would search for -lpng14, then -lpng12, then -lpng (and in Gentoo would > hit -lpng14); while one supporting 1.5 as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: libpng-1.5 smooth upgrade

2011-02-26 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Enrico Weigelt schrieb: > > pretty please force every consumer to hardcode the version > > because i know people that want to do this" ? > > No, they should use pkg-config at buildtime and do the version > selection there (eg. the eselect-way). Oh, it gets a bit tricker: the dependencies of t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: libpng-1.5 smooth upgrade

2011-02-24 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/24/2011 05:26 PM, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > And it's exactly what I'm going to fix in OSS-QM when I'm adding > libpng-1.5 in a few days. not this oss-qm again... not sure how to put "nobody cares" politely

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: libpng-1.5 smooth upgrade

2011-02-24 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Alexis Ballier schrieb: > > so why dont you ask the libpng upstream people ? > > ask what ? > "pretty please dont install libpng.pc/.so, Exactly that. And it's exactly what I'm going to fix in OSS-QM when I'm adding libpng-1.5 in a few days. > pretty please force every consumer to hardcode

[gentoo-dev] Re: libpng-1.5 smooth upgrade

2011-02-14 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:37:27 -0300 Alexis Ballier wrote: > Have you thought about doing something like what was done for wxwidgets ? > > - an eselect module for out of portage builds > - an eclass creating symlinks for libpng.pc/.so in $T and setting the correct > -L flag for the linker and PKG

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: libpng-1.5 smooth upgrade

2011-02-14 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday, February 14, 2011 10:37:27 Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Saturday, February 12, 2011 11:37:29 PM Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > > Il giorno sab, 12/02/2011 alle 18.21 -0500, Mike Frysinger ha scritto: > > > patching packages in the tree is a huge hassle, > > > you add hassle to end users who d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: libpng-1.5 smooth upgrade

2011-02-14 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Saturday, February 12, 2011 11:37:29 PM Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > Il giorno sab, 12/02/2011 alle 18.21 -0500, Mike Frysinger ha scritto: > > patching packages in the tree is a huge hassle, > > you add hassle to end users who d/l random packages and try to build > > things > > themselves, and y

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: libpng-1.5 smooth upgrade

2011-02-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday, February 12, 2011 21:37:29 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > Il giorno sab, 12/02/2011 alle 18.21 -0500, Mike Frysinger ha scritto: > > patching packages in the tree is a huge hassle, > > you add hassle to end users who d/l random packages and try to build > > things > > themselves, and you

[gentoo-dev] Re: libpng-1.5 smooth upgrade

2011-02-12 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il giorno sab, 12/02/2011 alle 18.21 -0500, Mike Frysinger ha scritto: > patching packages in the tree is a huge hassle, > you add hassle to end users who d/l random packages and try to build > things > themselves, and you make Gentoo non-standard wrt every other distro > out there. What I had

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: libpng-1.5 smooth upgrade

2011-02-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday, February 12, 2011 18:31:12 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 02/13/2011 01:21 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Friday, February 11, 2011 11:49:43 Samuli Suominen wrote: > >> On 02/11/2011 06:38 PM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > >>> 4) What have we learned from libpng 1.2 -> 1.4 upgrade? I'

[gentoo-dev] Re: libpng-1.5 smooth upgrade

2011-02-12 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 02/13/2011 01:21 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Friday, February 11, 2011 11:49:43 Samuli Suominen wrote: On 02/11/2011 06:38 PM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: 4) What have we learned from libpng 1.2 -> 1.4 upgrade? I'd just like to be better informed. [...] We have been discussing about remov

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: libpng-1.5 smooth upgrade

2011-02-11 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Friday, February 11, 2011 08:44:04 PM Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Friday, February 11, 2011 18:33:32 Alexis Ballier wrote: > > On Friday, February 11, 2011 05:07:50 PM Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > > > Il giorno ven, 11/02/2011 alle 16.51 -0300, Alexis Ballier ha scritto: > > > > you are seriously

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: libpng-1.5 smooth upgrade

2011-02-11 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, February 11, 2011 18:33:32 Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Friday, February 11, 2011 05:07:50 PM Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > > Il giorno ven, 11/02/2011 alle 16.51 -0300, Alexis Ballier ha scritto: > > > you are seriously considering patching every single package using > > > libpng like > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: libpng-1.5 smooth upgrade

2011-02-11 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Friday, February 11, 2011 05:07:50 PM Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > Il giorno ven, 11/02/2011 alle 16.51 -0300, Alexis Ballier ha scritto: > > you are seriously considering patching every single package using > > libpng like > > this instead of fixing those that fail??? (and i'm not talking about

[gentoo-dev] Re: libpng-1.5 smooth upgrade

2011-02-11 Thread Duncan
Matt Turner posted on Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:39:04 + as excerpted: > I'm a little unclear about -lpng vs -lpng15. ssuominen tells me on IRC > that probably 90% of packages linking with libpng will fail with 1.5. > These 90% will link with -lpng until a version that supports 1.5 is > released? The

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: libpng-1.5 smooth upgrade

2011-02-11 Thread Matt Turner
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > Il giorno ven, 11/02/2011 alle 16.51 -0300, Alexis Ballier ha scritto: >> >> you are seriously considering patching every single package using >> libpng like >> this instead of fixing those that fail??? (and i'm not talking about >> the

[gentoo-dev] Re: libpng-1.5 smooth upgrade

2011-02-11 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il giorno ven, 11/02/2011 alle 16.51 -0300, Alexis Ballier ha scritto: > > you are seriously considering patching every single package using > libpng like > this instead of fixing those that fail??? (and i'm not talking about > the fact > that these patches cannot be upstreamed...) Why not? We

[gentoo-dev] Re: libpng-1.5 smooth upgrade

2011-02-11 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il giorno ven, 11/02/2011 alle 17.38 +0100, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." ha scritto: > 1) Are we going to have a tinderbox run *before* libpng-1.5 gets keyworded? Absolutely. > 2) If the upgrade is non-trivial, i.e. just emerge -uDNa world and > revdep-rebuild isn't going to fix it, will we have an upgrad