Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-29 Thread Sergey Popov
13.12.2013 20:08, Peter Stuge пишет: > Sergey Popov wrote: > Last time I checked, vixie-cron upstream was died If vixie-cron upstream is dead as you say >>> >>> Define dead? >> >> Bugs are not fixed for a very long time, no answers on private >> e-mails or in maillists. > > Define ve

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-24 Thread Alice Ferrazzi
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > rc-update del vixie-cron default > /etc/init.d/vixie-cron stop > emerge -C vixie-cron > emerge cronie > rc-update add cronie default > /etc/init.d/cronie start I Just did the same, is simple and "drop-in" -- Gentoo, If it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-23 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/23/2013 10:54 PM, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote: >> rc-update del vixie-cron default >> /etc/init.d/vixie-cron stop >> emerge -C vixie-cron >> emerge cronie >> rc-update add cronie default >> /etc/init.d/cronie start > > Why /etc/init.d instead of rc-service? :) > Uhh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-23 Thread Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
> rc-update del vixie-cron default > /etc/init.d/vixie-cron stop > emerge -C vixie-cron > emerge cronie > rc-update add cronie default > /etc/init.d/cronie start Why /etc/init.d instead of rc-service? :) -- Best regsrds, mva signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed mess

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-16 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-12-15, o godz. 00:13:09 Peter Stuge napisał(a): > Markos Chandras wrote: > > Please do not let Peter render another thread useless. > > Isn't it obvious that the discussion about forks is both related to > cron *and* useful on its own? No, it's not. We may as well consider systemd a c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-15 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Sunday 15 of December 2013 00:13:09 Peter Stuge wrote: | Markos Chandras wrote: | > Please do not let Peter render another thread useless. | | Isn't it obvious that the discussion about forks is both related to | cron *and* useful on its own? I think there's some misunderstanding (or otherwise

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-14 Thread Peter Stuge
Markos Chandras wrote: > Please do not let Peter render another thread useless. Isn't it obvious that the discussion about forks is both related to cron *and* useful on its own? It's not really possible to view an entire thread as a single item. Life is more complicated than that, for good and ba

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-14 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/11/2013 03:03 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> >> Is cronie a drop-in replacement, or do I have to do some thinking when >> replacing vixie-cron? >> > > It should be a drop-in. The only change to make would be to remove > vixie-cron and add cronie to the default runlevel. > I noticed two small d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-13 Thread Dale
Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> On 12/10/2013 09:18 PM, Paul B. Henson wrote: >>> I'd say go one step further and get rid of vixie-cron completely, is >>> there anything it does that cronie can't do as well or better? >> Is cronie a drop-in replace

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-13 Thread Markos Chandras
On 12/13/2013 04:53 PM, Brian Dolbec wrote: > On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 17:08 +0100, Peter Stuge wrote: >> Sergey Popov wrote: >> Last time I checked, vixie-cron upstream was died > > If vixie-cron upstream is dead as you say Define dead? >>> >>> Bugs are not fixed for a very long

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-13 Thread Brian Dolbec
On Fri, 2013-12-13 at 17:08 +0100, Peter Stuge wrote: > Sergey Popov wrote: > > >>> Last time I checked, vixie-cron upstream was died > > >> > > >> If vixie-cron upstream is dead as you say > > > > > > Define dead? > > > > Bugs are not fixed for a very long time, no answers on private > > e-mails

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-13 Thread Ben Kohler
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: > Sergey Popov wrote: > > >>> Last time I checked, vixie-cron upstream was died > > >> > > >> If vixie-cron upstream is dead as you say > > > > > > Define dead? > > > > Bugs are not fixed for a very long time, no answers on private > > e-mails

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-13 Thread Peter Stuge
Sergey Popov wrote: > >>> Last time I checked, vixie-cron upstream was died > >> > >> If vixie-cron upstream is dead as you say > > > > Define dead? > > Bugs are not fixed for a very long time, no answers on private > e-mails or in maillists. Define very long time? //Peter pgpf3lhVFAsOu.pgp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-13 Thread Sergey Popov
12.12.2013 01:07, Peter Stuge пишет: > Markos Chandras wrote: >>> Last time I checked, vixie-cron upstream was died >> >> If vixie-cron upstream is dead as you say > > Define dead? > > > //Peter > Bugs are not fixed for a very long time, no answers on private e-mails or in maillists. -- Best

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-12 Thread Ultrabug
On 12/10/2013 09:55 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=197625#c14 This has reminded me that maybe we should switch to cronie from vixie-cron as default and recommended cron provider in Handbook. Last time I checked, vixie-cron upstream was died while cronie forked it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-12 Thread Lars Wendler
Am Wed, 11 Dec 2013 23:42:03 + schrieb Pavlos Ratis : > On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=197625#c14 > > > > This has reminded me that maybe we should switch to cronie from > > vixie-cron as default and recommended cron provider

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-11 Thread Pavlos Ratis
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=197625#c14 > > This has reminded me that maybe we should switch to cronie from > vixie-cron as default and recommended cron provider in Handbook. Last > time I checked, vixie-cron upstream was died while

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-11 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11.12.2013 22:07, Peter Stuge wrote: >> If vixie-cron upstream is dead as you say > Define dead? The latest upstream release is this: cron_4.1.shar 2004-Jan-23 19:20:23200.7K application/octet-stream As you can see, it will turn ten soon.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-11 Thread Ben Kohler
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Peter Stuge wrote: > > > I think that nobody who is not intimately familiar with the > development in both projects can think anything that is actionable. > > It's insulting to see how people all over the internet run as fast > as they possibly can in whatever dire

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-11 Thread Peter Stuge
Markos Chandras wrote: > > Last time I checked, vixie-cron upstream was died > > If vixie-cron upstream is dead as you say Define dead? //Peter

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-11 Thread Alexander Tsoy
On Wed Dec 11 23:30:58 2013 Peter Stuge wrote: > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > Last time I checked, vixie-cron upstream was died while cronie > > forked it fixing some bugs :/ > > > > What do you think? > > I think that nobody who is not intimately familiar with the > development in both projects can t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-11 Thread Markos Chandras
On 12/10/2013 08:55 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=197625#c14 > > This has reminded me that maybe we should switch to cronie from > vixie-cron as default and recommended cron provider in Handbook. Last > time I checked, vixie-cron upstream was died while cronie fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-11 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 12/10/2013 09:18 PM, Paul B. Henson wrote: >> >> I'd say go one step further and get rid of vixie-cron completely, is >> there anything it does that cronie can't do as well or better? > > Is cronie a drop-in replacement, or do I have to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-11 Thread Peter Stuge
Pacho Ramos wrote: > Last time I checked, vixie-cron upstream was died while cronie > forked it fixing some bugs :/ > > What do you think? I think that nobody who is not intimately familiar with the development in both projects can think anything that is actionable. It's insulting to see how peo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-11 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 12/10/2013 09:18 PM, Paul B. Henson wrote: > > I'd say go one step further and get rid of vixie-cron completely, is > there anything it does that cronie can't do as well or better? Is cronie a drop-in replacement, or do I have to do some thinking when replacing vixie-cron?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-11 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 09:55:05PM +0100, Pacho Ramos wrote: > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=197625#c14 > > This has reminded me that maybe we should switch to cronie from > vixie-cron as default and recommended cron provider in Handbook. Last > time I checked, vixie-cron upstream was di

RE: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-10 Thread Paul B. Henson
> From: Pacho Ramos [mailto:pa...@gentoo.org] > Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:55 PM > > This has reminded me that maybe we should switch to cronie from > vixie-cron as default and recommended cron provider in Handbook. Last > time I checked, vixie-cron upstream was died while cronie forked it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-10 Thread Jeff Horelick
I'm a nobody, but +1 from me. On 10 December 2013 16:33, Lars Wendler wrote: > Am Tue, 10 Dec 2013 21:55:05 +0100 > schrieb Pacho Ramos : > > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=197625#c14 > > > > This has reminded me that maybe we should switch to cronie from > > vixie-cron as default an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-10 Thread Lars Wendler
Am Tue, 10 Dec 2013 21:55:05 +0100 schrieb Pacho Ramos : > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=197625#c14 > > This has reminded me that maybe we should switch to cronie from > vixie-cron as default and recommended cron provider in Handbook. Last > time I checked, vixie-cron upstream was died

[gentoo-dev] Recommend cronie instead of vixie-cron in handbook?

2013-12-10 Thread Pacho Ramos
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=197625#c14 This has reminded me that maybe we should switch to cronie from vixie-cron as default and recommended cron provider in Handbook. Last time I checked, vixie-cron upstream was died while cronie forked it fixing some bugs :/ What do you think?