[gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-27 Thread Luis Francisco Araujo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello everyone, Here, with this email, i propose (after a brief discussion on irc with gensteaf)an alternative or at least a new model to address a few issues with our maintainers needs and the inclusion of new packages into the tree. Probably an alte

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-27 Thread Thomas Cort
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:19:14 -0400 Luis Francisco Araujo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The users explicitly compromise to (just to make it clear): [1,2,3,4] People who participate in open projects like Gentoo come and go. What happens if/when the proxy maintainer decides to leave? Who will take ca

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-27 Thread Luis Francisco Araujo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Cort wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:19:14 -0400 > Luis Francisco Araujo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The users explicitly compromise to (just to make it clear): [1,2,3,4] > > People who participate in open projects like Gentoo come and go.

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:19:14 -0400 Luis Francisco Araujo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > the developers could let all these three points at the hands of the > user wanting to get the ebuild included into the tree. [...] > The user has to compromise to take care of those previous commented > three

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Luis Francisco Araujo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Cernansky wrote: > Oh, if I can speak for me as a user I'll not like it. One of the major > advantage of Gentoo is easy maintenace (not mindless, but easy if you > know what you are doing) thanks to portage system. Another is > availability of l

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Robert Cernansky wrote: > If I have some application that is not included in portage why > I decide to make an ebuild? Because I hope that then it will be > accepted and included to portage, so maintained by developers (big > thanks for this). If I have to take care of package + ebuild + > dependen

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:26:31 -0400 Luis Francisco Araujo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Cernansky wrote: > > Oh, if I can speak for me as a user I'll not like it. One of the > > major advantage of Gentoo is easy maintenace (not mindless, but > > easy if you know what you are doing) thanks to

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:51:46 -0700 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Cernansky wrote: > > If I have some application that is not included in portage why > > I decide to make an ebuild? Because I hope that then it will be > > accepted and included to portage, so maintained by deve

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Luis Francisco Araujo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Cernansky wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:51:46 -0700 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Robert Cernansky wrote: >>> If I have some application that is not included in portage why >>> I decide to make an ebuild? Because I hope that

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Alexandre Buisse
On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 21:27:31 +0200, Robert Cernansky wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:26:31 -0400 Luis Francisco Araujo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Robert Cernansky wrote: > > > Oh, if I can speak for me as a user I'll not like it. One of the > > > major advantage of Gentoo is easy mai

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:26:37 -0400 Luis Francisco Araujo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > An ebuild offer several advantages even for tiny packages. If it is self-maintained ebuild, it depends on complexity of it. Currently I have one application outside the portage tree and I found out to easier/

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 21:49:02 +0200 Alexandre Buisse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 21:27:31 +0200, Robert Cernansky wrote: > > > I just understand it so, that if a user submits a new ebuild he has to > > in fact maintain it. So overall maintenance time required by his > > op

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Luis Medinas
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 22:09 +0200, Robert Cernansky wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 21:49:02 +0200 Alexandre Buisse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 21:27:31 +0200, Robert Cernansky wrote: > > > > > I just understand it so, that if a user submits a new ebuild he has to > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-28 Thread Alastair Tse
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 11:51 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Robert Cernansky wrote: > > If I have some application that is not included in portage why > > I decide to make an ebuild? Because I hope that then it will be > > accepted and included to portage, so maintained by developers (big > > thank

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-29 Thread Bruno
On Saturday 29 July 2006 02:19, Alastair Tse wrote: > On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 11:51 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > Robert Cernansky wrote: > > > If I have some application that is not included in portage why > > > I decide to make an ebuild? Because I hope that then it will be > > > accepted and i

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-29 Thread Luis Francisco Araujo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bruno wrote: > > Through proxy-dev I may contribute ebuild for a few packages and maintain > them > over the time period I have use for them. E.g. drivers as long as I have > given hardware (in use). That is great! > > What would be useful is to

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-30 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Friday 28 July 2006 20:51, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Robert Cernansky wrote: > > If I have some application that is not included in portage why > > I decide to make an ebuild? Because I hope that then it will be > > accepted and included to portage, so maintained by developers (big > > thanks for

Re: [gentoo-dev] proxy-dev (an alternative to sunrise?)

2006-07-30 Thread Daniel Gryniewicz
On Sun, 2006-07-30 at 15:50 +0200, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > On Friday 28 July 2006 20:51, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > Robert Cernansky wrote: > > > If I have some application that is not included in portage why > > > I decide to make an ebuild? Because I hope that then it will be > > > accepted and i