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On 25/08/12 04:16 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
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> The bottom line here is: I don't think all of the services we have
> set up to "need net" in their default configuration should be set
> up that way. It would make OpenRC work out of the box for many
>
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 02:49:39PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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> On 25/08/12 11:53 AM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 03:19:24PM +0900, hero...@gentoo.org
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> >> If we set rc_provide="net" in rc.conf, the services
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On 25/08/12 11:53 AM, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 03:19:24PM +0900, hero...@gentoo.org
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>> If we set rc_provide="net" in rc.conf, the services that need net
>> can be tricked as we intended to.
This makes more sense to me
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 03:19:24PM +0900, hero...@gentoo.org wrote:
> If we set rc_provide="net" in rc.conf, the services that need net can be
> tricked as we intended to.
Setting rc_provide, rc_need, rc_use, etc in rc.conf is definitely not
recommended. Remember that this affects all services on
William Hubbs writes:
> If you are running services that "need net" and you have turned off all
> of the "net" providers by adding something like rc_provide="!net" to
> their conf.d files, the services that need net will fail hard even
> though they shouldn't.
If we set rc_provide="net" in rc.co
On 24/08/2012 20:57, William Hubbs wrote:
> in your /etc/conf.d/sshd file.
Looks good.. most people who have especially complex configurations
would already be doing this.
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On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 09:22:15PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> I think this may again come down to the meaning of "net" -- in the
> case where rc_depend_strict="no" then "net" just means that the
> network interface infrastructure is up and running (ie net.lo); this
> should be true and imo is
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On 24/08/12 07:48 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 07:40:43AM +0900, hero...@gentoo.org
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>> Besides, IMHO, we should avoid changing OpenRC's default
>> dependency too often. The solution for one user can be received
>> as a
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On 24/08/12 03:58 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 01:50:14PM -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev
> wrote:
>> On Fri, 2012-08-24 at 12:10 -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
>>> The second question this bug brings up is whether services
>>> should
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 07:40:43AM +0900, hero...@gentoo.org wrote:
> Besides, IMHO, we should avoid changing OpenRC's default dependency too
> often. The solution for one user can be received as a regression to
> others.
>
> People file bugs saying "it worked for OpenRC-0.9 but not 0.10". For
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Besides, IMHO, we should avoid changing OpenRC's default dependency too
often. The solution for one user can be received as a regression to
others.
People file bugs saying "it worked for OpenRC-0.9 but not 0.10". For
devs, we know we just changed default value of something perfectly
configurable.
Hi William,
William Hubbs writes:
> When network interfaces are pre-configured, our network scripts
> shouldn't run at all, but they can be forced to run if other services
> have "need net" in their dependencies.
>
> So my question is, should we change our services to "use net" instead of
> "nee
On 24/08/2012 12:58, William Hubbs wrote:
> This user is running with pre-configured interfaces (root is nfs
> mounted). The network interface configuration should not be touched by
> openrc.
That would be nice for LCX as well, just so you know.
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On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 01:50:14PM -0400, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-08-24 at 12:10 -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
> > The second question this bug brings up is whether services should "need"
> > or "use" net. Remember that the "need" dependency will try to run the
> > needed service e
On Fri, 2012-08-24 at 12:10 -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
> The second question this bug brings up is whether services should "need"
> or "use" net. Remember that the "need" dependency will try to run the
> needed service even if it is in init.d but not in a runlevel.
Presumably that depends on the
All,
bugs like this one [1] are making me question the net/lo provides again,
and I want to know what everyone thinks.
First, do we need a provide for the loopback at all? I do not know of
any scenario in which a linux or *bsd system will not have an active
loopback interface. If we just make sur
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