On 20:59 Wed 31 Mar , Serheo wrote:
Google summer of code test message. Sorry for interuption.
You might want to consider the impression you make on people when you
send an email like this. When you're required to send an email, why not
make it something useful and get people
Hell no, but ...
We have lots of quite understaffed areas, to sum up in a positive way.
Summing it up the negative way one might say, we have lots of areas were
users might get the idea Gentoo already is dead.
For example:
- hardened-sources are nowadays only available in an experimental
On 4/3/10 11:16 AM, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
Hell no, but ...
We have lots of quite understaffed areas, to sum up in a positive way.
Summing it up the negative way one might say, we have lots of areas were
users might get the idea Gentoo already is dead.
For example:
- hardened-sources
On 04/03/2010 12:16 PM, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
- Infra: One might get the idea our Infra team is just Robin (yeah, sure
there are more people, but ) ... things are happening slowly (no
offend - I fully understand that those few can't dedicate more of their
spare time to infra work!),
On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 11:16:32AM +0200, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
Hell no, but ...
Then avoid feeding the distrowatch trolls w/ sensational
subjects please ;)
We have lots of quite understaffed areas, to sum up in a positive way.
Summing it up the negative way one might say, we have lots of
On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 11:16:32AM +0200, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
- Infra: One might get the idea our Infra team is just Robin (yeah, sure
there are more people, but ) ... things are happening slowly (no
offend - I fully understand that those few can't dedicate more of their
spare time to
On 04/03/10 11:16, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
Hell no, but ...
We have lots of quite understaffed areas, to sum up in a positive way.
Summing it up the negative way one might say, we have lots of areas were
users might get the idea Gentoo already is dead.
So what are _you_ doing to make it
On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 09:40:12AM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
So - what to do now? To be honest - I have no real clue. But a first
step might be to collect your opinions on where we do lack manpower and
ideas on how to solve this problems. A Wiki might be fitting well for
that task
I don't think later is valid resolution. If there's a valid bug it just
means it's never looked at again. If the bug is not valid then a
different resolution should be used. So what do you think about
disabling later? I would like to avoid things like this:
On 04/03/10 10:50, Petteri Räty wrote:
I don't think later is valid resolution. If there's a valid bug it just
means it's never looked at again. If the bug is not valid then a
different resolution should be used. So what do you think about
disabling later? I would like to avoid things like
On 4/3/10 12:03 PM, Krzysztof Pawlik wrote:
On 04/03/10 10:50, Petteri Räty wrote:
I don't think later is valid resolution. If there's a valid bug it just
means it's never looked at again. If the bug is not valid then a
different resolution should be used. So what do you think about
disabling
Am Samstag, den 03.04.2010, 02:37 -0700 schrieb Brian Harring:
On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 11:16:32AM +0200, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
Hell no, but ...
Then avoid feeding the distrowatch trolls w/ sensational
subjects please ;)
oh, well ;)
We have lots of quite understaffed areas, to sum up
Am Samstag, den 03.04.2010, 11:26 +0200 schrieb Paweł Hajdan, Jr.:
For example:
- hardened-sources are nowadays only available in an experimental
overlay, lots of users keep asking what's happening to the
hardened-sources on both the -dev but also the -hardened mailinglist.
I recently
Am Samstag, den 03.04.2010, 11:46 +0200 schrieb Patrick Lauer:
We have lots of quite understaffed areas, to sum up in a positive way.
Summing it up the negative way one might say, we have lots of areas were
users might get the idea Gentoo already is dead.
So what are _you_ doing to make
On 04/03/10 11:09, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote:
On 4/3/10 12:03 PM, Krzysztof Pawlik wrote:
On 04/03/10 10:50, Petteri Räty wrote:
I don't think later is valid resolution. If there's a valid bug it just
means it's never looked at again. If the bug is not valid then a
different resolution should
* Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org:
It is obvious what many of the functions do (I can read shell, yay!)
but it is not obvious to me why they exist or why I would want to call
them. Why do I want to delete AppleDouble files? What are dual-life
scripts and why do I want to symlink them? Why
* James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com:
One change the perl eclasses require is elimination of the code which
deletes the man pages.
Deleting the man pages is /extremely/ rude and should not occur.
There was a reason why the man-pages were removed: I think it was
collisions protection and perl
Problem
..is known, let me summarize briefly.
Uninstalling packages providing libraries, without checking reverse runtime
dependencies of those packages leaves their dependencies unsatisfied (packages
with broken executables and/or shared libs).
Some package managers try their best not to
On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 12:38:17PM +0200, Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
exactly it's supposed to be achieved. As far as portage/pkgcore is concerned,
maybe - as Brian Harring suggested - sandbox could be used to somehow hide
preserved libraries or preserved library directory from ebuild environment
On 03-04-2010 12:38:17 +0200, Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
Problem
..is known, let me summarize briefly.
Uninstalling packages providing libraries, without checking reverse
runtime dependencies of those packages leaves their dependencies
unsatisfied (packages with broken executables and/or
On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 12:38:17 +0200
Maciej Mrozowski reave...@gmail.com wrote:
2. During emerge, unset environment variable corresponding to said
preserved library directory - orphans are no longer located.
Wouldn't that cause failure when the toolkit relies on a 'hidden'
preserved library?
--
I'd like to add a package for spin to the tree (it's used at several
universities, including mine and Caltech).
However, it's not straightforward. The basic license is for educational
purposes only.
Here are my suggestions how to implement that.
/usr/portage/licenses/spin-educational with the
www.medicationsshop.refytopls.com
Le samedi 03 avril 2010 à 12:38 +0200, Maciej Mrozowski a écrit :
There is opt-out suggestion[2], unfortunately it does not provide any info
how
exactly it's supposed to be achieved. As far as portage/pkgcore is concerned,
maybe - as Brian Harring suggested - sandbox could be used to
On 04/03/2010 06:19 AM, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
And still, when someone tries to fix things in such an understaffed herd
people go all territorial and are like omg u touched my package.
Right now I'm quite confused what our project strategy seems to be, as
far as I can tell there's one group
Am 03.04.2010 11:26, schrieb Paweł Hajdan, Jr.:
On 4/3/10 11:16 AM, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
Hell no, but ...
We have lots of quite understaffed areas, to sum up in a positive way.
Summing it up the negative way one might say, we have lots of areas were
users might get the idea Gentoo already
On 04/03/2010 02:33 PM, Richard Freeman wrote:
I think the problem is that our recruitment process uses the ability to
answer complex technical and organizational questions as a way to assess
maturity. I think that maturity is far more important than technical
skill in a distro - a mature
On Saturday 03 of April 2010 12:56:04 Fabian Groffen wrote:
Is it known why this does happen exactly? When a lib is kept because it
is still used, only its soname + what the soname points to should be
kept. That would mean the lib can no longer be found during linking,
unless you add some
On 03-04-2010 14:09:42 +0200, Maciej Mrozowski wrote:
because trying to link to libfoo using `gcc -o bar -lfoo bar.c` should
(in theory and on some platforms at least) fail.
It doesn't matter, as 'broken' build system may alphabetically find
library by file name, and link to this library
On 3 April 2010 11:46, Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 04/03/10 11:16, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
Hell no, but ...
We have lots of quite understaffed areas, to sum up in a positive way.
Summing it up the negative way one might say, we have lots of areas were
users might get the idea
lördag 03 april 2010 12.19.19 skrev Tobias Scherbaum:
- hardened-sources are nowadays only available in an experimental
overlay, lots of users keep asking what's happening to the
hardened-sources on both the -dev but also the -hardened mailinglist.
Yeah, we do have people working on
On 3 April 2010 11:46, Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 04/03/10 11:16, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
People are constantly asking for a documentation wiki, but ...
yeah, as long as no one just creates a wiki there won't be one. People
are waiting on other people, who are waiting for
On 3 April 2010 13:33, Richard Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
I really think that the Gentoo recruitment process needs improvement. Right
now it seems like a LOT of effort is required both to become a Gentoo dev
and to help somebody become a Gentoo dev. That means we have great people,
but
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 16:19, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
1 - requirements
In order to choose the best possible wiki implementation, we need to
know our requirements. So what features do you think are essential or
good to have? What syntax would we prefer to use?
On 4/3/10 3:40 PM, Ben de Groot wrote:
Are there any other ideas on how to improve our recruitment process?
The idea appeared before, but I think it's worth noting.
Either merge the ebuild and end quizzes, or make the split actually
meaningful. In my case I just finished both at the same time,
On 03/04/2010 14:40, Ben de Groot wrote:
On 3 April 2010 13:33, Richard Freemanri...@gentoo.org wrote:
I really think that the Gentoo recruitment process needs improvement. Right
now it seems like a LOT of effort is required both to become a Gentoo dev
and to help somebody become a Gentoo dev.
On 04/03/2010 04:40 PM, Ben de Groot wrote:
Another problem I see is that our documentation seems to be scattered
all over the place. I propose that we make at least one portal page
for (prospective) developers that will link them to all the resources
they might need. It also means our
Hi !
I maintain Gentoo-Québec wiki. I'm not the only one as d2_racing and some other
members also do. I maintain CSS, examples and wrote almost 60% of the stuff.
If you think I could help, please just let me know.
The wiki :
http://gentoo-quebec.org/wiki/index.php/Accueil
Guy Fontaine
On 04/03/2010 04:53 PM, George Prowse wrote:
Armed with a list of where developers are spread too thinly, a
willingness to answer questions (no matter how stupid you believe them
to be) and some prior organisation then i see no reason why Gentoo
wouldn't get an immediate influx of at least
On 3 April 2010 16:04, Guy Fontaine guy.fonta...@videotron.qc.ca wrote:
I maintain Gentoo-Québec wiki. I'm not the only one as d2_racing and some
other members also do. I maintain CSS, examples and wrote almost 60% of the
stuff.
If you think I could help, please just let me know.
I think
Am Samstag, den 03.04.2010, 16:40 +0300 schrieb Dror Levin:
There is currently a wiki for gentoo at gentoo-wiki.com, which is
running MediaWiki, so it would be easiest to transfer the content if
we were to run the same software.
This should happen (if at all) on a per article basis imho.
On 03/04/2010 15:05, Petteri Räty wrote:
On 04/03/2010 04:53 PM, George Prowse wrote:
Armed with a list of where developers are spread too thinly, a
willingness to answer questions (no matter how stupid you believe them
to be) and some prior organisation then i see no reason why Gentoo
On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 15:19:20 +0200, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org
wrote:
1 - requirements
In order to choose the best possible wiki implementation, we need to
know our requirements. So what features do you think are essential or
good to have? What syntax would we prefer to
On 3 April 2010 16:12, Tobias Scherbaum dertobi...@gentoo.org wrote:
Am Samstag, den 03.04.2010, 16:40 +0300 schrieb Dror Levin:
There is currently a wiki for gentoo at gentoo-wiki.com, which is
running MediaWiki, so it would be easiest to transfer the content if
we were to run the same
On 2010.04.03 10:16, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
Hell no, but ...
We have lots of quite understaffed areas, to sum up in a positive
way.
Summing it up the negative way one might say, we have lots of areas
were
users might get the idea Gentoo already is dead.
For example:
[snip lots of
On 3 April 2010 16:30, Alex Legler a...@gentoo.org wrote:
I propose to use MediaWiki.
As I said in my other post, MediaWiki and MoinMoin should, in my
opinion, be on our shortlist to consider.
I'd be interested in helping out with the backend part, i.e. setting up
and maintaining the Wiki
Am Samstag, den 03.04.2010, 15:40 +0100 schrieb Roy Bamford:
First, we need some metrics - the first step to controlling anything is
to measure it.
So, how do you want to measure those metrics? I for one can't think of a
useful algorithm which helps to identify understaffed or orphaned areas.
On 03/04/10 08:40, Dror Levin wrote:
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 16:19, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
1 - requirements
In order to choose the best possible wiki implementation, we need to
know our requirements. So what features do you think are essential or
good to
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On 03-04-2010 09:50, Petteri Räty wrote:
I don't think later is valid resolution. If there's a valid bug it just
means it's never looked at again. If the bug is not valid then a
different resolution should be used. So what do you think about
Hi everyone, Gentoo-Quebec already use MediaWiki and I can say that for the
spam prevention measures it can be pretty simple :
For a new user, he needs to
send an email to a specific adress, alos he needs to have a valid
account on the forum just to be sure that he is not a spambot. So
On 04/03/2010 04:16 AM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote:
I'd like to add a package for spin to the tree (it's used at several
universities, including mine and Caltech).
However, it's not straightforward. The basic license is for educational
purposes only.
Here are my suggestions how to implement
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Tobias Scherbaum dertobi...@gentoo.org wrote:
Am Samstag, den 03.04.2010, 15:40 +0100 schrieb Roy Bamford:
First, we need some metrics - the first step to controlling anything is
to measure it.
So, how do you want to measure those metrics? I for one can't think
Alec Warner wrote:
The above are all pretty easy to do with the data in the tree. Some
other useful ideas might be:
- compare open bugs for the package, when was the last bug for a
package closed (bugs data kinda sucks for this)
An additional search: last touched by assignee between never
On 04/03/2010 06:25 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
On 03-04-2010 09:50, Petteri Räty wrote:
I don't think later is valid resolution. If there's a valid bug it just
means it's never looked at again. If the bug is not valid then a
different resolution should be used. So what do you think
Hello,
I am using umask 027 on my Gentoo boxes, and setgid bit set on a few
directories crucial to userpriv-enabled merges. This way, I do not have
to worry about running e.g. layman through 'sg' or similar tools, as
all newly-created files inherit portage group ownership, and
newly-created
On 03/04/10 14:40, Dror Levin wrote:
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 16:19, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
2 - maintainers
===
Who is volunteering for maintaining the wiki? We need editors and
moderators, people who look out for quality control and take care of
spam removal. So
On 1 April 2010 15:43, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote:
Of course that would mean getting included in
hardened-ker...@gentoo.org, but I guess it's the easiest part.
Yes, you can do it yourself:
woodpecker ~ $ echo $USER /var/mail/alias/misc/hardened-kernel
--
Best Regards
Piotr
On 04/03/2010 10:11 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
Hello,
I am using umask 027 on my Gentoo boxes, and setgid bit set on a few
directories crucial to userpriv-enabled merges. This way, I do not have
to worry about running e.g. layman through 'sg' or similar tools, as
all newly-created files
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 04/03/2010 06:25 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
On 03-04-2010 09:50, Petteri Räty wrote:
I don't think later is valid resolution. If there's a valid bug it just
means it's never looked at again. If the bug is
On 04/03/2010 08:54 PM, Alec Warner wrote:
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 04/03/2010 06:25 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:
On 03-04-2010 09:50, Petteri Räty wrote:
I don't think later is valid resolution. If there's a valid bug it just
Am Samstag, den 03.04.2010, 12:38 +0200 schrieb Maciej Mrozowski:
Problem
..is known, let me summarize briefly.
Uninstalling packages providing libraries, without checking reverse runtime
dependencies of those packages leaves their dependencies unsatisfied
(packages
with broken
On 03/04/2010 18:40, AllenJB wrote:
On 03/04/10 14:40, Dror Levin wrote:
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 16:19, Ben de Grootyng...@gentoo.org wrote:
2 - maintainers
===
Who is volunteering for maintaining the wiki? We need editors and
moderators, people who look out for quality control
Am Samstag, den 03.04.2010, 12:50 +0300 schrieb Petteri Räty:
I don't think later is valid resolution. If there's a valid bug it just
means it's never looked at again. If the bug is not valid then a
different resolution should be used. So what do you think about
disabling later? I would like
Hi guys,
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 3 April 2010 13:33, Richard Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
I really think that the Gentoo recruitment process needs improvement. Right
now it seems like a LOT of effort is required both to become a Gentoo dev
On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 19:56:53 +0100, George Prowse
george.pro...@gmail.com wrote:
Does mediawiki have captcha ability?
Yes, there are plug-ins provide that functionality. [1]
Let's get a general Wiki concept done before talking about spam
remedy in detail, though. :)
[1]
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 05:38, Petteri Räty betelge...@gentoo.org wrote:
My perception from the outside is also that it's sometimes hard to offer
help. So if we now that we are busy then let's try to embrace others
doing the work.
This is also what I have observed. I think Gentoo needs appear
On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 15:19:20 +0200, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org
wrote:
Okay, so it seems a lot of people do want a wiki. So let's see what
we can do to make that happen.
I created a Wiki page (oh, the irony) to track the results of this
thread in the Gentoo eV wiki:
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 10:27, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote:
What other distributions (*BSD, Linux, or...) do you know that use
openrc? IOW, I know it was designed to be distribution independent, but I
don't know of anyone else using it (well, other than Gentoo derivatives),
and Gentoo
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 15:30, Jacob Godserv jacobgods...@gmail.com wrote:
Last I checked, Ubuntu is going to adopt it. How's that for a compliment? :)
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/18452/
Sorry for the extra e-mail, but I should clarify:
Ubuntu is seriously considering adopting it.
--
On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 15:31:20 -0400
Jacob Godserv jacobgods...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 15:30, Jacob Godserv jacobgods...@gmail.com
wrote:
Last I checked, Ubuntu is going to adopt it. How's that for a
compliment? :) http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/18452/
Sorry for the
On Saturday 03 of April 2010 14:16:14 Fabian Groffen wrote:
Shouldn't we fix that buildsystem then? Do you have an example of a
package/buildsystem that does that?
We already do, the thing is that maybe we don't have to.
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=240323
From top of my head: python
On 04/03/10 16:05, Petteri Räty wrote:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/staffing-needs/
I don't know if developers know that this page is autogenerated from
individual project pages these days so it's easy for any developer to
get stuff there.
Has anyone every tried to read that page?
On 04/03/10 21:00, Jesus Rivero (Neurogeek) wrote:
Maybe if we could find the way to make the knowledge found in
quizzes be more exciting to new devs, then we could still have a
strong recruitment process without the burden of completing the
quizzes. So, what I propose is to transform the
Le samedi 03 avril 2010 à 12:50 +0300, Petteri Räty a écrit :
I don't think later is valid resolution. If there's a valid bug it just
means it's never looked at again. If the bug is not valid then a
different resolution should be used. So what do you think about
disabling later?
You are
2010/4/3 Gilles Dartiguelongue e...@gentoo.org:
Le samedi 03 avril 2010 à 12:50 +0300, Petteri Räty a écrit :
I don't think later is valid resolution. If there's a valid bug it just
means it's never looked at again. If the bug is not valid then a
different resolution should be used. So what do
I'm calling for participation in a new team working on things around
reports, bug analysis, heartbeat tracking in Gentoo:
Goals
=
- help track the heartbeat/breath of Gentoo
(bugs fixed per day, bug distribution per herd, ..)
- point to problems we may be overlooking in Gentoo
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote:
I'm calling for participation in a new team working on things around
reports, bug analysis, heartbeat tracking in Gentoo:
Goals
=
- help track the heartbeat/breath of Gentoo
(bugs fixed per day, bug
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote:
I'm calling for participation in a new team working on things around
reports, bug analysis, heartbeat tracking in Gentoo:
I will help with scripting; but probably not much else.
-A
Goals
=
- help track the
On 04/04/10 00:30, Jesus Rivero (Neurogeek) wrote:
Sebastian, count me in.
Cool!
I believe this sort of stuff, or small
parts of what you are mentioning, was done in the newsletter. I
believe this is something real nice we should put somewhere public.
Can you elaborate on that? I'm not
On 04/04/10 00:42, Alec Warner wrote:
I will help with scripting; but probably not much else.
Just right, there will be lots of scripting :-)
The current script dumping groud is hosted here:
http://git.goodpoint.de/?p=gentoo-bug-heartbeat.git;a=summary
Sebastian
On 04/03/10 16:46, Ben de Groot wrote:
I propose to use MediaWiki.
As I said in my other post, MediaWiki and MoinMoin should, in my
opinion, be on our shortlist to consider.
My vote on MediaWiki, too.
(I do like DokuWiki better for personal things but mediaWiki seems the
best choice for a
On 04/03/10 16:36, Ben de Groot wrote:
This also raises the question of license. Our current documentation
mostly uses the CC-BY-SA license, while the unoffical wiki adds a
non-commercial restriction. By choosing one license over the other
we will make copy-pasting content from the source that
Ben, good to see you driving this process! Thanks!
Sebastian
On 04/03/10 18:03, Alec Warner wrote:
- date of last commit: Gentoo is fast moving and packages that
haven't had commits since 200{4,5,6} are probably old, unmaintained
and may not even compile or run.
- date of last listed maintainer commit versus last commit:
Basically if the maintainer
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 01:37:03 +0200
From: sp...@gentoo.org
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki
On 04/03/10 16:46, Ben de Groot wrote:
I propose to use MediaWiki.
As I said in my other post, MediaWiki and MoinMoin
On 04/04/10 02:11, Sylvain Alain wrote:
I hope that you will not migrate the GuideXML inside the wiki, because
it's so simple to write documentations inside a wiki and right now the
unofficial Gentoo Wiki is clean and simple.
If you want to have registered users and contributors, then you
On 4 April 2010 01:37, Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote:
Btw was it Fedora having moved from MoinMoin to MediaWiki?
I remember something like that, could be erring though.
You are right. Here are some relevant links a quick Google search
turned up for me:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 11:16:32 +0200
Tobias Scherbaum dertobi...@gentoo.org wrote:
- Our formerly outstanding documentation still is somewhat maintained,
but that's it. I haven't seen any new additions (both to our docs, but
also to our docs-team) for years. People are constantly asking for a
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Joshua Saddler nightmo...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 11:16:32 +0200
Tobias Scherbaum dertobi...@gentoo.org wrote:
- Our formerly outstanding documentation still is somewhat maintained,
but that's it. I haven't seen any new additions (both to our
Alec Warner wrote:
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Joshua Saddlernightmo...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 11:16:32 +0200
Tobias Scherbaumdertobi...@gentoo.org wrote:
- Our formerly outstanding documentation still is somewhat maintained,
but that's it. I haven't seen any
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