Re: [gentoo-dev] On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 20/01/2011 в 03:50 +0100, Diego Elio Pettenò пишет: Do you really think I should have discussed with a team about this? More than asking Robin as part of infra if it's okay (with his answer being yeah, that's fine | i do it too, literally)? This was already mentioned in this thread, but

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-analyzer/ipcad

2011-01-20 Thread Peter Volkov
В Срд, 19/01/2011 в 11:58 -0500, Dane Smith пишет: # Packages below fail to build with # =sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.35 and block its # stabilization. Bugs untouched in over 3 months. # Masking for removal on 21 Mar 2011. # net-analyzer/ipcad (bug 335592) This one is fixed and will stay in

[gentoo-dev] Rail Model font for coders

2011-01-20 Thread hare_krsna_hare_krsna_krsna_krsna_hare_hare_hare_rama_hare_rama_rama_rama_hare_hare
There is a font for coders called Rail Model, please include it with Linux distributions: http://code.google.com/p/railmodel/downloads/detail?name=RailModelFont.zipcan=2q= Copyright: Copyright (c) 2010, Copyright (c) Holder for the commissioned (Unicode 0915) devanagri glyph design as the new

[gentoo-dev] Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org: missing, we sent a plea for help to -dev (or was it planet?) and had http://www.faulhammer.org/archiv-mainmenu-31/35-gentoo/293-we-are-looking-for-distfiles V-Li -- Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project URL:http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/,

[gentoo-dev] Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il giorno gio, 20/01/2011 alle 07.23 +0100, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. ha scritto: Storing distfiles in public_html is not a perfect solution either. If the developer retires, what do we do with the files? That's why (and I answer to Peter here as well), it is an ad interim solution. As I said and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Blockers and package moves

2011-01-20 Thread Jacob Godserv
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:10, Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote: How about playing nicely with overlays where the moves didn't happen (yet)? I'm not a developer, but based on my experience, playing nicely with overlays in general is a can of worms, and as far as I can tell has to do

[gentoo-dev] genkernel 3.4.11.1 released

2011-01-20 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Hello! This release fixes two bugs both affecting 3.4.11 (not earlier releases). Bugs fixed == 351906 Move application of kernel config after make mrproper as that deletes .config (whereas make clean does not) 351909 busybox 1.18.1: Return of mdstart as an applet

Re: [gentoo-dev] On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 01/20/2011 01:23 AM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: On 1/20/11 1:50 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: If you produced the file yourself, and it doesn't matter if the file is reproducible (unless it is reproducible to sha512 identity), please use the public_html directory in your dev.gentoo.org home

Re: [gentoo-dev] On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 01/20/2011 01:34 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: On 01/20/2011 01:23 AM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: On 1/20/11 1:50 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: If you produced the file yourself, and it doesn't matter if the file is reproducible (unless it is reproducible to sha512 identity), please use the

Re: [gentoo-dev] On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Matti Bickel
On 01/20/2011 01:50 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: I just wanted to write here a clarification regarding self-produced distfiles, such as patchset tarballs, SCM snapshots and the like. Some people seem under the impression that the correct way to host these is to use mirror://gentoo/ and copy

[gentoo-dev] Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il giorno gio, 20/01/2011 alle 13.34 -0500, Anthony G. Basile ha scritto: shows 39 eclasses which refer to mirror:// That's not much of a problem, mirror://kde/ mirror://debian/ and the like are fine, most of the time. -- Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

[gentoo-dev] Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il giorno gio, 20/01/2011 alle 19.41 +0100, Matti Bickel ha scritto: So, I'm not opposed to your idea. If ya want to archive your stuff forever, by all means do it. I just see no point in forcing this on all devs. So, care to explain or give me pointer on why this is necessary? License

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday, January 19, 2011 22:57:59 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: Il giorno mer, 19/01/2011 alle 22.31 -0500, Mike Frysinger ha scritto: we havent hosted files on dev.g.o because we've felt the distfiles tree to be sufficient. since there seems to be more need now, let's find out

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Matti Bickel
First, thanks for pointing this out. On 01/20/2011 07:51 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: License compliance when distributing binaries; Not sure what you mean: if someone quickpkg's php and needs all the source? Well, they already downloaded them. Better keep them around, since it's *your*

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 13:51:23 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: Il giorno gio, 20/01/2011 alle 19.41 +0100, Matti Bickel ha scritto: So, I'm not opposed to your idea. If ya want to archive your stuff forever, by all means do it. I just see no point in forcing this on all devs. So, care

Re: [gentoo-dev] Rail Model font for coders

2011-01-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 04:14:28 hare_krsna_hare_krsna_krsna_krsna_hare_hare_hare_rama_hare_rama_rama_rama_hare_h...@lavabit.com wrote: please fix your stupid e-mail There is a font for coders called Rail Model, please include it with Linux distributions: package requests go into

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il giorno gio, 20/01/2011 alle 20.27 +0100, Matti Bickel ha scritto: Not sure what you mean: if someone quickpkg's php and needs all the source? Well, they already downloaded them. Better keep them around, since it's *your* binary, not mine. We do distribute part of our packages as binaries

Re: [gentoo-dev] Blockers and package moves

2011-01-20 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 09:07:20 -0500 Jacob Godserv jacobgods...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:10, Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote: How about playing nicely with overlays where the moves didn't happen (yet)? I'm not sure you have to worry about overlays. The

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il giorno gio, 20/01/2011 alle 14.28 -0500, Mike Frysinger ha scritto: then you should have mentioned this in your original e-mail rather than painting infra as angry unhelpful tools. the changes you propose are merely a stop gap measure until infra finishes their work. You of all

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:25:23 +0100 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@gmail.com wrote: Il giorno gio, 20/01/2011 alle 07.23 +0100, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. ha scritto: Storing distfiles in public_html is not a perfect solution either. If the developer retires, what do we do with the files? That's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Rail Model font for coders

2011-01-20 Thread hare_krsna_hare_krsna_krsna_krsna_hare_hare_hare_rama_hare_rama_rama_rama_hare_hare
please fix your stupid e-mail Meeku: Very good email address.

Re: [gentoo-dev] genkernel 3.4.11.1 released

2011-01-20 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:00:06 +0100 Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote: This release fixes two bugs both affecting 3.4.11 (not earlier releases). I'm a Gentoo developer. I've never used genkernel for private purposes. So I don't see why you would send this to gentoo-dev@ and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Rail Model font for coders

2011-01-20 Thread Antoni Grzymala
hare_krsna_hare_krsna_krsna_krsna_hare_hare_hare_rama_hare_rama_rama_rama_hare_h...@lavabit.com dixit (2011-01-20, 15:06): please fix your stupid e-mail Meeku: Very good email address. Since we're onto hares why not shorten it to: tea_party@mad_hatter.uk? -- [a]

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il giorno gio, 20/01/2011 alle 21.02 +0100, Jeroen Roovers ha scritto: It isn't exactly a solution and the interim has lasted for years now. No, for years now we had policies going one way (don't use dev.g.o) because they were written at one point by one person, and practices for most of us

Re: [gentoo-dev] genkernel 3.4.11.1 released

2011-01-20 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 01/20/11 21:08, Jeroen Roovers wrote: On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:00:06 +0100 Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote: This release fixes two bugs both affecting 3.4.11 (not earlier releases). I'm a Gentoo developer. I've never used genkernel for private purposes. So I don't see why you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Matti Bickel
On 01/20/2011 08:42 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: We do distribute part of our packages as binaries already so we have to be compliant with their licenses to begin with. Better doing it with a single sweep than trying to come up with abstruse case-by-case points, no? No. Licenses are not a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 21:23:49 +0100 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@gmail.com wrote: Now we're re-joining policy and practice. By forcing use of dev.gentoo.org for self-hosted SRC_URI files? What legitimate use does mirror://gentoo retain when we do have a solution? Ultimate patch attached.

Re: [gentoo-dev] genkernel 3.4.11.1 released

2011-01-20 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 20-01-2011 21:34:36 +0100, Sebastian Pipping wrote: On 01/20/11 21:08, Jeroen Roovers wrote: On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:00:06 +0100 Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote: This release fixes two bugs both affecting 3.4.11 (not earlier releases). I'm a Gentoo developer. I've

[gentoo-dev] Re: Rail Model font for coders

2011-01-20 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 01/20/2011 11:14 AM, hare_krsna_hare_krsna_krsna_krsna_hare_hare_hare_rama_hare_rama_rama_rama_hare_h...@lavabit.com wrote: There is a font for coders called Rail Model, please include it with Linux distributions:

Re: [gentoo-dev] genkernel 3.4.11.1 released

2011-01-20 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Fabian Groffen grob...@gentoo.org wrote: Like Jeroen, I don't think new package releases should be announced on these developer-related lists. Tend to agree, at least in general. If a genkernel upgrade impacted multiple teams/etc, such as requiring changes to

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il giorno gio, 20/01/2011 alle 21.35 +0100, Matti Bickel ha scritto: On 01/20/2011 08:42 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: No. Licenses are not a valid argument to me. I'd accept that if we're Debian and pushing 100% of *our* stuff as binary. What we do 90% of the time is distributing text -

Re: [gentoo-dev] genkernel 3.4.11.1 released

2011-01-20 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 01/20/11 21:38, Fabian Groffen wrote: Like Jeroen, I don't think new package releases should be announced on these developer-related lists. It's not about the package, it's about the release itself. I don't send mails on package bumps I do. Sebastian

Re: [gentoo-dev] genkernel 3.4.11.1 released

2011-01-20 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 20-01-2011 21:47:19 +0100, Sebastian Pipping wrote: On 01/20/11 21:38, Fabian Groffen wrote: Like Jeroen, I don't think new package releases should be announced on these developer-related lists. It's not about the package, it's about the release itself. I don't send mails on package

Re: [gentoo-dev] genkernel 3.4.11.1 released

2011-01-20 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 01/20/11 21:45, Rich Freeman wrote: On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Fabian Groffen grob...@gentoo.org wrote: Like Jeroen, I don't think new package releases should be announced on these developer-related lists. Tend to agree, at least in general. If a genkernel upgrade impacted

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il giorno gio, 20/01/2011 alle 21.38 +0100, Jeroen Roovers ha scritto: I'm lost now. Do you/infra/$GENTOO_DEITY plan to first force everyone to use dev.g.o and then move to mirror://gentoo-projects soon after? soon after? Sorry I don't foresee the next move to happen within six months.

Re: [gentoo-dev] genkernel 3.4.11.1 released

2011-01-20 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 21:57:46 +0100 Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote: On 01/20/11 21:45, Rich Freeman wrote: On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Fabian Groffen grob...@gentoo.org wrote: Like Jeroen, I don't think new package releases should be announced on these developer-related

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 21:58:43 +0100 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@gmail.com wrote: Let's be clear, I'm not asking for anybody to spend the next couple of days to convert all the packages out there for this very reason. That wasn't entirely clear. *But* I'm asking for the _future_ ebuilds to

[gentoo-dev] last rites: games-misc/jugglemaster games-util/taxidraw

2011-01-20 Thread Michael Sterrett
+# Michael Sterrett mr_bon...@gentoo.org (20 Jan 2011) +# wxgtk:2.6 is going away so mask these for removal on 20110219 +games-misc/jugglemaster +games-util/taxidraw

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il giorno gio, 20/01/2011 alle 22.14 +0100, Jeroen Roovers ha scritto: I'd be happier if you responded my proposal of changing the meaning of mirror://gentoo - the mirror sync scripts could take care of the entire thing by forever storing files described that way. That way, no

Re: [gentoo-dev] On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Wednesday, January 19, 2011 09:50:35 pm Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: Hi all, I just wanted to write here a clarification regarding self-produced distfiles, such as patchset tarballs, SCM snapshots and the like. Some people seem under the impression that the correct way to host these is to

Re: [gentoo-dev] On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il giorno gio, 20/01/2011 alle 18.42 -0300, Alexis Ballier ha scritto: Solution b): update the distfiles-local mirroring script to store a copy where it wont be deleted... The interim solution is the current one with the files being deleted when not used in the tree. Won't happen, infra

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 14:47:24 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: Il giorno gio, 20/01/2011 alle 14.28 -0500, Mike Frysinger ha scritto: then you should have mentioned this in your original e-mail rather than painting infra as angry unhelpful tools. the changes you propose are merely a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 14:42:03 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: Il giorno gio, 20/01/2011 alle 20.27 +0100, Matti Bickel ha scritto: Not sure what you mean: if someone quickpkg's php and needs all the source? Well, they already downloaded them. Better keep them around, since it's *your*

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 16:21:33 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: Il giorno gio, 20/01/2011 alle 22.14 +0100, Jeroen Roovers ha scritto: I'd be happier if you responded my proposal of changing the meaning of mirror://gentoo - the mirror sync scripts could take care of the entire thing by

Re: [gentoo-dev] genkernel 3.4.11.1 released

2011-01-20 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 01/20/11 21:55, Fabian Groffen wrote: Unless if you are on some git repo, we have commit mails which can serve this purpose very well. I am on a git repo, and a commit list serves a different purpose: low level tracking of changes. Sebastian

Re: [gentoo-dev] genkernel 3.4.11.1 released

2011-01-20 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 01/20/11 22:06, Jeroen Roovers wrote: Version bumps have no place on the dev-announce list /unless/ they impact developers' work directly. Fine. (and not because you want to celebrate the glory of another version release). I'm not sure if I'm just interpreting things, but I wish you

Re: [gentoo-dev] genkernel 3.4.11.1 released

2011-01-20 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:15:19 +0100 Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote: On 01/20/11 22:06, Jeroen Roovers wrote: Version bumps have no place on the dev-announce list /unless/ they impact developers' work directly. Fine. (and not because you want to celebrate the glory of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Dale
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday, January 20, 2011 14:47:24 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: SNIP Also angry unhelpful tools? You're putting words in my mail that aren't there. I said infra _used_ to be against that; it was obvious that knowing that I wouldn't just push the issue against their