On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
Let's start with generalized example so everyone gets the idea...
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On 17-05-2011 00:20, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 05/17/2011 03:15 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:
Let's start with generalized example so everyone gets the idea...
Reference: man 8 pklocalauthority
On 05/15/2011 09:24 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
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All,
I think we should support the /run directory [1] [2]. The issue is
that there are at least two packages, udev and dracut, in gentoo, which
support the use of this directory. Support for it is being worked on in
openrc, and systemd will use it once it comes into the tree.
For now, it is
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfre...@gentoo.org said:
PyXML is dead:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/xml-sig/2004-November/010735.html
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/xml-sig/2006-June/011545.html
PyXML provides _xmlplus module, which replaces xml module (from standard
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 01:11:57PM -0400, Mark Loeser wrote:
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfre...@gentoo.org said:
PyXML is dead:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/xml-sig/2004-November/010735.html
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/xml-sig/2006-June/011545.html
PyXML provides
В Втр, 17/05/2011 в 11:57 -0500, William Hubbs пишет:
I think we should support the /run directory [1] [2].
I, as well as several others, believe we should proactively create this
directory ... What does everyone else think?
I've read https://lwn.net/Articles/436012/ and that convinced me.
2011-05-17 19:32:23 Markos Chandras napisał(a):
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 01:11:57PM -0400, Mark Loeser wrote:
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfre...@gentoo.org said:
PyXML is dead:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/xml-sig/2004-November/010735.html
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfre...@gentoo.org said:
I second that. Why do we need to make all the work fixing packages
instead of letting upstream do their job? I am not so excited to
fix every package I maintain as it is quite possible to introduce
regressions in the process.
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Peter Volkov p...@gentoo.org wrote:
В Втр, 17/05/2011 в 11:57 -0500, William Hubbs пишет:
I think we should support the /run directory [1] [2].
I, as well as several others, believe we should proactively create this
directory ... What does everyone else
2011-05-17 19:11:57 Mark Loeser napisał(a):
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfre...@gentoo.org said:
PyXML is dead:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/xml-sig/2004-November/010735.html
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/xml-sig/2006-June/011545.html
PyXML provides _xmlplus module,
2011-05-17 20:24:16 Mark Loeser napisał(a):
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis arfre...@gentoo.org said:
I second that. Why do we need to make all the work fixing packages
instead of letting upstream do their job? I am not so excited to
fix every package I maintain as it is quite
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Dne 10.5.2011 23:21, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis napsal(a):
PyXML is dead:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/xml-sig/2004-November/010735.html
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/xml-sig/2006-June/011545.html
PyXML provides _xmlplus
On Tuesday 17 May 2011 20:28:56 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Peter Volkov p...@gentoo.org wrote:
В Втр, 17/05/2011 в 11:57 -0500, William Hubbs пишет:
I think we should support the /run directory [1] [2].
I, as well as several others, believe we should
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Ângelo Arrifano mik...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Tuesday 17 May 2011 20:28:56 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
I'd add that if we want /run to be on tmpfs, /var/run and /tmp should
both be on tmpfs by default. I've been doing this manually for a year,
and so have other
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:58:56PM +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Peter Volkov p...@gentoo.org wrote:
В Втр, 17/05/2011 в 11:57 -0500, William Hubbs пишет:
I think we should support the /run directory [1] [2].
I, as well as several others, believe we
В Втр, 17/05/2011 в 20:43 +0200, Ângelo Arrifano пишет:
On Tuesday 17 May 2011 20:28:56 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
I'd add that if we want /run to be on tmpfs, /var/run and /tmp should
both be on tmpfs by default. I've been doing this manually for a year,
and so have other distributions.
2011-05-17 20:43:29 Tomáš Chvátal napisał(a):
Dne 10.5.2011 23:21, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis napsal(a):
PyXML is dead:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/xml-sig/2004-November/010735.html
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/xml-sig/2006-June/011545.html
PyXML provides _xmlplus
On Tuesday 17 May 2011 21:11:12 Peter Volkov wrote:
В Втр, 17/05/2011 в 20:43 +0200, Ângelo Arrifano пишет:
On Tuesday 17 May 2011 20:28:56 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
I'd add that if we want /run to be on tmpfs, /var/run and /tmp should
both be on tmpfs by default. I've been doing this
On 23:58 Tue 17 May , Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
...
I'd add that if we want /run to be on tmpfs, /var/run and /tmp should
both be on tmpfs by default. I've been doing this manually for a year,
and so have other distributions.
Hi,
A quick look at the size of my desktop's /tmp is:
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Dne 17.5.2011 21:12, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis napsal(a):
2011-05-17 20:43:29 Tomáš Chvátal napisał(a):
Dne 10.5.2011 23:21, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis napsal(a):
PyXML is dead:
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:20:56PM +0300, Panagiotis Christopoulos wrote:
On 23:58 Tue 17 May , Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
...
I'd add that if we want /run to be on tmpfs, /var/run and /tmp should
both be on tmpfs by default. I've been doing this manually for a year,
and so have other
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Panagiotis Christopoulos
pchr...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 23:58 Tue 17 May , Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
...
I'd add that if we want /run to be on tmpfs, /var/run and /tmp should
both be on tmpfs by default. I've been doing this manually for a year,
and so have
On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 01:18 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
Maybe you should use /var/tmp for that? Or ~/tmp/ ?
OTOH, we could use an rc.conf configuration variable to control
whether /tmp is mounted as tmpfs.
Having /tmp and /var/tmp as tmpfs sounds like a terrible idea.. I don't
think we
On Tue, 17 May 2011 16:00:41 -0400
Olivier Crête tes...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 01:18 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
Maybe you should use /var/tmp for that? Or ~/tmp/ ?
OTOH, we could use an rc.conf configuration variable to control
whether /tmp is mounted as tmpfs.
Excerpts from Olivier Crête's message of Tue May 17 22:00:41 +0200 2011:
On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 01:18 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
Maybe you should use /var/tmp for that? Or ~/tmp/ ?
OTOH, we could use an rc.conf configuration variable to control
whether /tmp is mounted as tmpfs.
On 01:18 Wed 18 May , Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
...
Maybe you should use /var/tmp for that? Or ~/tmp/ ?
Yes, I can do that. But the real question here, from my perspective, is
why we need /run, /var/run or /tmp on tmpfs. Other distros do it is
not an answer. Yes, I needed those dirs on
2011/5/17 Olivier Crête tes...@gentoo.org:
On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 01:18 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
Maybe you should use /var/tmp for that? Or ~/tmp/ ?
OTOH, we could use an rc.conf configuration variable to control
whether /tmp is mounted as tmpfs.
Having /tmp and /var/tmp as tmpfs
On Tue, 17 May 2011 23:20:59 +0300
Panagiotis Christopoulos pchr...@gentoo.org wrote:
As I don't have the knowledge for this and I currently don't have the
time to google/search it myself, can someone explain why other linux
distibutions / Unix systems (wikipedia says that Solaris had /tmp on
WH == William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org writes:
WH Once /run is in place,
WH /var/run will be a symbolic link to /run and /var/lock will
WH be a symbolic link to /run/lock.
There are files which need to be in /var/lock and which should
survive a reboot, so it is not a good idea to make
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 04:35:00PM -0400, James Cloos wrote:
WH == William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org writes:
WH Once /run is in place,
WH /var/run will be a symbolic link to /run and /var/lock will
WH be a symbolic link to /run/lock.
There are files which need to be in /var/lock and
2011-05-17 21:21:48 Tomáš Chvátal napisał(a):
Dne 17.5.2011 21:12, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis napsal(a):
2011-05-17 20:43:29 Tomáš Chvátal napisał(a):
Dne 10.5.2011 23:21, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis napsal(a):
PyXML is dead:
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 23:20 +0300, Panagiotis Christopoulos wrote:
Yes, I can do that. But the real question here, from my perspective, is
why we need /run, /var/run or /tmp on tmpfs. Other distros do it is
not an answer.
The main reason is that you want /run to be writable super early in the
2011/5/18 Olivier Crête tes...@gentoo.org:
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 23:20 +0300, Panagiotis Christopoulos wrote:
Yes, I can do that. But the real question here, from my perspective, is
why we need /run, /var/run or /tmp on tmpfs. Other distros do it is
not an answer.
The main reason is that you
Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote:
2011/5/18 Olivier Cr??te tes...@gentoo.org:
The main reason is that you want /run to be writable super early in the
boot process, before even / has been fscked and re-mounted. That means
you can do stuff like starting udevd in parallel with fsck
* Drake Wyrm schrieb am 18.05.11 um 00:26 Uhr:
Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote:
2011/5/18 Olivier Cr??te tes...@gentoo.org:
The main reason is that you want /run to be writable super early in the
boot process, before even / has been fscked and re-mounted. That means
you can
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:56 AM, Drake Wyrm w...@haell.com wrote:
Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote:
Even if you don't have to wipe them with a service, you're going to need
to mount them with a service. You'll need to mount /run as tmpfs, create
the /run/lock directory, and then
On Tue, 17 May 2011 11:57:48 -0500
William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
I think we should support the /run directory [1] [2].
I would be interested to hear how you plan to do the migration, given
that everyone else has managed to screw it up...
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On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 03:26:11PM -0700, Drake Wyrm wrote:
Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote:
2011/5/18 Olivier Cr??te tes...@gentoo.org:
The main reason is that you want /run to be writable super early in the
boot process, before even / has been fscked and re-mounted. That
MC == Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org writes:
MC Can you please provide some examples that require /var/lock to
MC survive a reboot?
Not everything is part of the distribution.
The one which first comes to mind are lock files placed to prevent
certain cron-initiated jobs from running right
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:50:32PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2011 11:57:48 -0500
William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
I think we should support the /run directory [1] [2].
I would be interested to hear how you plan to do the migration, given
that everyone else has
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 08:06:46PM -0400, James Cloos wrote:
MC == Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org writes:
MC Can you please provide some examples that require /var/lock to
MC survive a reboot?
Not everything is part of the distribution.
The one which first comes to mind are lock
Hello,
Genkernel's situation (reduced to the three currently most active
players) looks like this to me:
- aidecoe
- is focussed on the transition to Dracut and related things
- is fixing bugs in present genkernel from time to time
- xake
- is fixing bugs in the current genkernel
William Hubbs posted on Tue, 17 May 2011 14:46:49 -0500 as excerpted:
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:20:56PM +0300, Panagiotis Christopoulos
wrote:
On 23:58 Tue 17 May, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote:
...
I'd add that if we want /run to be on tmpfs, /var/run and /tmp should
both be on tmpfs by
On Tue, 17 May 2011 14:46:49 -0500
William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
The directories that would be affected by having /run on tmpfs would
be /var/run and /var/lock. The suggested way of doing this is to have
/var/run linked to /run and /var/lock linked to /run/lock.
wrt /var/run on
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 03:36:48AM +0200, Jeroen Roovers wrote:
wrt /var/run on tmpfs, I recall packages installing daemons that expect
their specific directories to be present in /var/run, and that do not
play nice when that directory turns out empty, but we should be able to
work around that
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