Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: deprecation of baselayout-1.x

2011-07-01 Thread Dale
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: William Hubbs wrote: As a user, if a person hasn't upgraded in about 6 months, they may as well reinstall anyway. That is usually the advice given on -user. After a year without updating, it is

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: deprecation of baselayout-1.x

2011-07-01 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011, William Hubbs wrote: Please discuss. Did I leave out any steps? Are there any points I have left out besides the time window between steps 2 and 3? Should there be a time window before removing baselayout-1? What about between steps 1 and 2? What do you consider to be a

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: deprecation of baselayout-1.x

2011-07-01 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
On 07/01/11 07:56, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: William Hubbs wrote: As a user, if a person hasn't upgraded in about 6 months, they may as well reinstall anyway. That is usually the advice given on -user. After a year without

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-misc/aria2: aria2-1.12.0.ebuild ChangeLog

2011-07-01 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 30/06/2011 в 19:27 +, Sebastian Pipping (sping) пишет: Log: net-misc/aria2: Bump to 1.12.0, looks trivial EAPI=2 inherit bash-completion ... pkg_setup() { if use scripts use !xmlrpc use !metalink; then ewarn Please also enable the 'xmlrpc' USE flag

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-misc/aria2: aria2-1.12.0.ebuild ChangeLog

2011-07-01 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 12:03:41 +0400 Peter Volkov p...@gentoo.org wrote: pkg_setup() { if use scripts use !xmlrpc use !metalink; then This really calls for REQUIRED_USE from EAPI=4. REQUIRED_USE=scripts? ( ^^ ( xmlrpc metalink ) ) That's not the same condition as the one in the

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: deprecation of baselayout-1.x

2011-07-01 Thread Duncan
Nirbheek Chauhan posted on Fri, 01 Jul 2011 11:26:50 +0530 as excerpted: On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: William Hubbs wrote: As a user, if a person hasn't upgraded in about 6 months, they may as well reinstall anyway.  That is usually the advice given on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: deprecation of baselayout-1.x

2011-07-01 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 07/01/11 11:25, Duncan wrote: Nirbheek Chauhan posted on Fri, 01 Jul 2011 11:26:50 +0530 as excerpted: On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: William Hubbs wrote: As a user, if a person hasn't upgraded in about 6 months, they may as well reinstall anyway. That

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2011-07-01 Thread Markos Chandras
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[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: deprecation of baselayout-1.x

2011-07-01 Thread Duncan
Patrick Lauer posted on Fri, 01 Jul 2011 11:45:16 +0200 as excerpted: So keeping an up and running machine even with a reinstall isn't a problem, certainly no more of one than fighting with broken installs, because everything has changed out from under the existing one. It's not as easy as

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: deprecation of baselayout-1.x

2011-07-01 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 08:38:38AM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Thu, 30 Jun 2011, William Hubbs wrote: Please discuss. Did I leave out any steps? Are there any points I have left out besides the time window between steps 2 and 3? Should there be a time window before removing

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: deprecation of baselayout-1.x

2011-07-01 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Fri, 1 Jul 2011, William Hubbs wrote: We have a policy on this, see http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20091109-summary.txt: | Upgrade path for old systems | | Vote (unanimous): The ebuild tree must provide an upgrade path to | a stable

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2011-07-01 Thread Markos Chandras
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-misc/aria2: aria2-1.12.0.ebuild ChangeLog

2011-07-01 Thread Peter Volkov
В Птн, 01/07/2011 в 09:09 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh пишет: On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 12:03:41 +0400 Peter Volkov p...@gentoo.org wrote: pkg_setup() { if use scripts use !xmlrpc use !metalink; then This really calls for REQUIRED_USE from EAPI=4. REQUIRED_USE=scripts? ( ^^ ( xmlrpc

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: deprecation of baselayout-1.x

2011-07-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 11:26 Fri 01 Jul , Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: Except for the fact that while you upgrade, you still have a usable system. Reinstallation means a massive time-sink during which your machine is completely unusable. This is not an option for a lot of people. If -user is regularly giving

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: deprecation of baselayout-1.x

2011-07-01 Thread William Hubbs
On Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 09:08:53AM -0500, Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 11:26 Fri 01 Jul , Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: Except for the fact that while you upgrade, you still have a usable system. Reinstallation means a massive time-sink during which your machine is completely unusable. This is

[gentoo-dev] rfc: gentoo base functions

2011-07-01 Thread William Hubbs
All, this is a followup thread to the one about openrc being mandatory on all gentoo systems. I started a new thread, because I want to figure out which functions located in /etc/init.d/functions.sh need to be available regardless of the init system in use. So far, I'm thinking this is the

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: deprecation of baselayout-1.x

2011-07-01 Thread Dale
William Hubbs wrote: On Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 09:08:53AM -0500, Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 11:26 Fri 01 Jul , Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: Except for the fact that while you upgrade, you still have a usable system. Reinstallation means a massive time-sink during which your machine is

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-misc/aria2: aria2-1.12.0.ebuild ChangeLog

2011-07-01 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 07/01/2011 10:03 AM, Peter Volkov wrote: В Чтв, 30/06/2011 в 19:27 +, Sebastian Pipping (sping) пишет: Log: net-misc/aria2: Bump to 1.12.0, looks trivial EAPI=2 inherit bash-completion ... pkg_setup() { if use scripts use !xmlrpc use !metalink; then ewarn

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: gentoo base functions

2011-07-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:44, William Hubbs wrote: this is a followup thread to the one about openrc being mandatory on all gentoo systems. I started a new thread, because I want to figure out which functions located in /etc/init.d/functions.sh need to be available regardless of the init

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-misc/aria2: aria2-1.12.0.ebuild ChangeLog

2011-07-01 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 07/01/11 21:25, Sebastian Pipping wrote: [SNIP] If we use EAPI 4 in that ebuild we cannot make it stable anytime soon, correct? As far as I'm aware we have a stable portage with EAPI 4 in the tree for a few weeks now, so you can actively use it everywhere. -- Patrick Lauer

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: deprecation of baselayout-1.x

2011-07-01 Thread Duncan
Duncan posted on Fri, 01 Jul 2011 11:26:58 + as excerpted: Patrick Lauer posted on Fri, 01 Jul 2011 11:45:16 +0200 as excerpted: [Keeping an up and running system during a reinstall is] not as easy as it could be. Can't disagree there. =:^) ... And upon further thought, can't disagree

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: deprecation of baselayout-1.x

2011-07-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: You're very correct about portage getting confused if the existing packages are outdated, since the tarball would be dropping in untracked files.  At least in the past, portage wouldn't unmerge glibc or the like, but it

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: deprecation of baselayout-1.x

2011-07-01 Thread Duncan
Rich Freeman posted on Fri, 01 Jul 2011 16:50:28 -0400 as excerpted: I wonder if there is a way to get around keeping cruft in the tree for the sake of those who don't update often. Something that comes to mind is having a binpkg repository for everything in system - essentially a binpkg

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-misc/aria2: aria2-1.12.0.ebuild ChangeLog

2011-07-01 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 01-07-2011 19:33, Patrick Lauer wrote: On 07/01/11 21:25, Sebastian Pipping wrote: [SNIP] If we use EAPI 4 in that ebuild we cannot make it stable anytime soon, correct? As far as I'm aware we have a stable portage with EAPI 4 in the tree