[gentoo-dev] Lastrite: media-gfx/pngcrush

2011-10-08 Thread Samuli Suominen
# Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org (08 Oct 2011) # Fails to compile against system libpng15, bug 356127 # Removal in 14 days media-gfx/pngcrush

[gentoo-dev] GCC upgrades, FUD and gentoo documentation

2011-10-08 Thread Sven Vermeulen
Hi guys There is some FUD regarding GCC upgrades and I don't have the proper knowledge to write a correct document on GCC upgrades. As you are currently aware, we have a GCC upgrade guide [1], but it has seen its last update in 2008. Since then, things have undoubtedly changed. What I can find

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: media-gfx/pngcrush

2011-10-08 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: # Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org (08 Oct 2011) # Fails to compile against system libpng15, bug 356127 # Removal in 14 days 14 days? media-gfx/pngcrush

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: media-gfx/pngcrush

2011-10-08 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 10/08/2011 04:19 PM, Matt Turner wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: # Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org (08 Oct 2011) # Fails to compile against system libpng15, bug 356127 # Removal in 14 days 14 days? approx. 14 days and counting to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: media-gfx/pngcrush

2011-10-08 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 10/08/2011 02:19 PM, Matt Turner wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: # Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org (08 Oct 2011) # Fails to compile against system libpng15, bug 356127 # Removal in 14

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: media-gfx/pngcrush

2011-10-08 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 08-10-2011 15:20:56 +0100, Markos Chandras wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 10/08/2011 02:19 PM, Matt Turner wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: # Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org (08 Oct 2011) # Fails to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: media-gfx/pngcrush

2011-10-08 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 08-10-2011 15:49:00 +0100, Markos Chandras wrote: We can't really wait forever for slacking maintainers to fix their packages. amd64 is almost ready to have libpng-1.5 stable in the very near future http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=2chap=5#doc_chap8

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: media-gfx/pngcrush

2011-10-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On 10/08/2011 02:19 PM, Matt Turner wrote: 14 days? We can't really wait forever for slacking maintainers to fix their packages. amd64 is almost ready to have libpng-1.5 stable in the very near future Didn't we just

[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC upgrades, FUD and gentoo documentation

2011-10-08 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
Il giorno sab, 08/10/2011 alle 11.33 +, Sven Vermeulen ha scritto: - The fix_libtool_files.sh command is now part of the toolchain eclass, so doesn't need to be ran by users anymore Moreover, that should only be needed for very old installs: libstdc++.la that caused the trouble in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: media-gfx/pngcrush

2011-10-08 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 08-10-2011 11:05:08 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: If the extra 16 days will actually accomplish something beyond just delaying libpng then we can debate the finer points of policy. However, if we're just arguing policy for its own sake then I don't see the value. Perhaps a package maintainer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: media-gfx/pngcrush

2011-10-08 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
Guys, the policy makes perfect sense, there are people that sync just monthly, so they might want to get some headsup why their packages are going away, and not just remove them. Thats why the recommended value is 60 days, 30 for urgent cases, lately we just moved to 30 for everything, but please

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: media-gfx/pngcrush

2011-10-08 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 10/08/2011 06:13 PM, Fabian Groffen wrote: On 08-10-2011 11:05:08 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: If the extra 16 days will actually accomplish something beyond just delaying libpng then we can debate the finer points of policy. However, if we're just arguing policy for its own sake then I don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: media-gfx/pngcrush

2011-10-08 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 08-10-2011 18:33:15 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: It's not like fastened lastriting hasn't happened before. I question your motives in picking this particular one. It's not like I expected cookies for the time I've put into this porting effort, but not this attack either. If you feel I'm

[gentoo-dev] integrity of stage files

2011-10-08 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
I checked http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=5 and the Handbook only mentions validating MD5 checksums. There are two possible issues: 1. Why are we using _only_ MD5 and SHA1 as the checksums? Shouldn't we be using something stronger? 2. I noticed the checksums

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: media-gfx/pngcrush

2011-10-08 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On 10/08/2011 02:19 PM, Matt Turner wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: # Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org (08 Oct 2011) # Fails to compile against system libpng15,

Re: [gentoo-dev] integrity of stage files

2011-10-08 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 02:45:02PM -0700, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: I checked http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=5 and the Handbook only mentions validating MD5 checksums. There are two possible issues: 1. Why are we using _only_ MD5 and SHA1 as the

Re: [gentoo-dev] GCC upgrades, FUD and gentoo documentation

2011-10-08 Thread James Cloos
SV == Sven Vermeulen sw...@gentoo.org writes: SV - Since 3.4.0/4.1.0, the C++ ABI is forward-compatible, so rebuilds SV from that version onwards should not be needed That is not generally true. I use gcc-4.5 as my system gcc, but mostly use 4.6 when building things outside of portage. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] integrity of stage files

2011-10-08 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 10/8/11 3:43 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: 1. Why are we using _only_ MD5 and SHA1 as the checksums? Shouldn't we be using something stronger? Fixed in Catalyst now. http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/catalyst.git;a=commit;h=42b4f6608682cf03954918ecce7923330a1656fe So when the

Re: [gentoo-dev] integrity of stage files

2011-10-08 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 04:39:40PM -0700, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: On 10/8/11 3:43 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: 1. Why are we using _only_ MD5 and SHA1 as the checksums? Shouldn't we be using something stronger? Fixed in Catalyst now.

Re: [gentoo-dev] GCC upgrades, FUD and gentoo documentation

2011-10-08 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 6:57 PM, James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com wrote: SV == Sven Vermeulen sw...@gentoo.org writes: SV - Since 3.4.0/4.1.0, the C++ ABI is forward-compatible, so rebuilds SV   from that version onwards should not be needed That is not generally true. I use gcc-4.5 as my

Re: [gentoo-dev] integrity of stage files

2011-10-08 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 02:45:02PM -0700, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: I checked http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=5 and the Handbook only mentions validating MD5 checksums. There are two

Re: [gentoo-dev] integrity of stage files

2011-10-08 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 08:21:44PM -0400, Matt Turner wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 02:45:02PM -0700, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: I checked http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=5 and the

Re: [gentoo-dev] integrity of stage files

2011-10-08 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 10/8/11 5:01 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: Ah, I just forgot about that page. Okay, so can we also update the Handbook to include GPG signature checking? It DOES already mention checking the signature: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=2#doc_chap3 That's good,

Re: [gentoo-dev] integrity of stage files

2011-10-08 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote: On 10/8/11 5:01 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: Ah, I just forgot about that page. Okay, so can we also update the Handbook to include GPG signature checking? It DOES already mention checking the signature:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: media-gfx/pngcrush

2011-10-08 Thread Matt Turner
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 10/08/11 22:45, Matt Turner wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: On 10/08/2011 02:19 PM, Matt Turner wrote: On Sat,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrite: media-gfx/pngcrush

2011-10-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: 1) use bundled zlib and libpng14. Doh this is not a fix. It is barely a workaround. What if a vulnerability is discovered in the bundled version of libpng in the next months? Will upstream fix it? Highly unlikely since