[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove ldap from desktop profiles use flags

2012-07-15 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 6 May 2012 15:25:02 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, 6 May 2012 07:33:59 -0400 Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: Some other questionable ones: emboss - Adds support for the European Molecular Biology Open We've had this discussion before...

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/15/2012 06:15 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: On 15 July 2012 04:46, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: Markos Chandras wrote: understand that quizzes is not an ideal way to hire people either, but they worked ok for all these years I don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Theo Chatzimichos
On Saturday 14 of July 2012 10:32:04 Markos Chandras wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Dear Gentoo Community, If you are not a recruit, mentor, or wannabe mentor you may stop reading now. We (recruiters) decided to revert back to the quizzes for the recruitment

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Peter Stuge
(Please consider quoting only what is relevant. Thanks!) Markos Chandras wrote: In my opinion, the quizzes contain all the knowledge that is required for someone to start developing for Gentoo. Yes, maybe it requires too much knowledge So which is it? All that is required or too much? Also,

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: using array variables in qt4-r2.eclass

2012-07-15 Thread Davide Pesavento
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 12:29:59 +0200 Davide Pesavento p...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 15:26:58 +0200 Davide Pesavento p...@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:15:26 +0800 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: The first time I did the quizzes, it took me 9 months. After having been away for a couple of years, I recently returned as Gentoo dev, and the second time I did the quizzes it took me 3 months. I've seen others take a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev - mdev

2012-07-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Rich Freeman posted on Sat, 14 Jul 2012 19:57:41 -0400 as excerpted: I doubt anybody has tried it, so you'll have to experiment. Anybody /anybody/, or anybody on gentoo? FWIW, there are people running it in general (IIRC

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: I've been managing my own overlay and a few private ones for a few years now, all while using catalyst to build more or less customized Linux systems for me and for others. I dive into bugzilla when a bug bites, and I'll

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:15:26 +0800 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: The first time I did the quizzes, it took me 9 months. After having been away for a couple of years, I recently returned as Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: remove ldap from desktop profiles use flags

2012-07-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 3:59 AM, Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, 6 May 2012 15:25:02 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, 6 May 2012 07:33:59 -0400 Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: Some other questionable ones: emboss - Adds support for the

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: using array variables in qt4-r2.eclass

2012-07-15 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:00:47 +0200 Davide Pesavento p...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 12:29:59 +0200 Davide Pesavento p...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Alexis Ballier

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Ben de Groot
On 15 July 2012 21:27, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:15:26 +0800 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: The first time I did the quizzes, it took me 9 months. After having been

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:45:25 +0800 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: It's not that it takes all that much time. It can be done in say one or two workdays. But you need to set aside a block of time (and usually two, one for each of the quizzes, or more if you need to break it up or iterate

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Peter Stuge
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: you need to set aside a block of time (and usually two ...and you don't need to be able to put in that level of attention every now and again when you're a developer? Not the same amount of meta time, no. I agree with the estimate of about two days for the quizzes.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Ben de Groot
On 15 July 2012 21:50, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:45:25 +0800 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: It's not that it takes all that much time. It can be done in say one or two workdays. But you need to set aside a block of time (and usually

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-misc/ssh-installkeys

2012-07-15 Thread Michael Palimaka
# Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org (15 Jul 2012) # Bundles dev-python/pexpect (bug #315843) # Replaced by ssh-copy-id from net-misc/openssh. # Removal in 30 days. net-misc/ssh-installkeys

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: less idiotic idiots such as perhaps myself need years because we're doing whatever work as opposed to learning foundation bylaws by heart. Well, I don't think the bylaws are a terribly important topic for the quizzes, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: using array variables in qt4-r2.eclass

2012-07-15 Thread Davide Pesavento
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:00:47 +0200 Davide Pesavento p...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 12:29:59 +0200 Davide Pesavento p...@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: using array variables in qt4-r2.eclass

2012-07-15 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 17:36:05 +0200 Davide Pesavento p...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:00:47 +0200 Davide Pesavento p...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: using array variables in qt4-r2.eclass

2012-07-15 Thread Davide Pesavento
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 17:36:05 +0200 Davide Pesavento p...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 13:00:47 +0200 Davide Pesavento p...@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 07/15/2012 11:11 AM, Peter Stuge wrote: (Please consider quoting only what is relevant. Thanks!) Markos Chandras wrote: In my opinion, the quizzes contain all the knowledge that is required for someone to start developing for Gentoo. Yes,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Recruitment process is moving back to quizzes

2012-07-15 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: Certainly. But it is likely much more interesting work and has considerably more impact. The mentoring period and the review have considerable impact too. Whether you think one is more important than the other depends on you

[gentoo-dev] Re: udev - mdev

2012-07-15 Thread Duncan
Rich Freeman posted on Sun, 15 Jul 2012 08:30:31 -0400 as excerpted: Looking at the docs it seems like you'd need a hook for the cmdline stage that sets rootok (assuming it gets that far without a root, or if you set it to something like root=TMPFS). Then you'd install a hook to mount to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev - mdev

2012-07-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: So I have the general idea, but doing it from an initr* with limited tools available will be interesting. Dracut modules can specify any tools they need, and they will be loaded into the initramfs. Obviously you'll want to

[gentoo-dev] multiple package moves into one

2012-07-15 Thread Doug Goldstein
Is it valid to do something like: move media-plugins/mytharchive media-plugins/mythplugins move media-plugins/mythbrowser media-plugins/mythplugins move media-plugins/mythgallery media-plugins/mythplugins move media-plugins/mythgame media-plugins/mythplugins move media-plugins/mythmovies

Re: [gentoo-dev] multiple package moves into one

2012-07-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 17:08:45 -0500 Doug Goldstein car...@gentoo.org wrote: Is it valid to do something like: move media-plugins/mytharchive media-plugins/mythplugins move media-plugins/mythbrowser media-plugins/mythplugins move media-plugins/mythgallery media-plugins/mythplugins move

Re: [gentoo-dev] multiple package moves into one

2012-07-15 Thread Zac Medico
On 07/15/2012 03:08 PM, Doug Goldstein wrote: Is it valid to do something like: move media-plugins/mytharchive media-plugins/mythplugins move media-plugins/mythbrowser media-plugins/mythplugins move media-plugins/mythgallery media-plugins/mythplugins move media-plugins/mythgame

Re: [gentoo-dev] multiple package moves into one

2012-07-15 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, 15 Jul 2012 17:08:45 -0500 Doug Goldstein car...@gentoo.org wrote: Is it valid to do something like: move media-plugins/mytharchive media-plugins/mythplugins move media-plugins/mythbrowser

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev - mdev

2012-07-15 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 05:58:25AM +, Duncan wrote They're seriously thinking about (and may be planning on) removing that option from the kernel entirely, to keep people configuring their first kernels from getting themselves in trouble, but of course that's now part of the

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2012-07-15 23h59 UTC

2012-07-15 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2012-07-15 23h59 UTC. Removals: net-misc/remmina-plugins2012-07-09 02:47:44 floppym gnustep-apps/projectmanager 2012-07-09 08:42:59 voyageur gnustep-apps/keyarcher

[gentoo-dev] Re: udev - mdev

2012-07-15 Thread Duncan
Rich Freeman posted on Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:48:55 -0400 as excerpted: Giving it a little thought, the simplest tmpfs-based root would be one that defines a tarball as a the root. The system would create a tmpfs, extract the tarball to it, and then use the existing fstab-sys module to mount

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev - mdev

2012-07-15 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Rich Freeman posted on Sun, 15 Jul 2012 14:48:55 -0400 as excerpted: Giving it a little thought, the simplest tmpfs-based root would be one that defines a tarball as a the root. The system would create a tmpfs, extract the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev - mdev

2012-07-15 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 3:30 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Thinking in that direction does stimulate yet another idea, tho. What about a squashfs root? AFAIK squashfs is read-only at use time, thus enforcing actually mounting something else to write anything, eliminating many of the