Dnia 2013-06-20, o godz. 23:16:00
William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 04:39:59AM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
Dnia 2013-06-20, o godz. 15:56:09
William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:16:36PM +0200, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
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On 06/21/2013 04:39 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
Dnia 2013-06-20, o godz. 15:56:09 William Hubbs
willi...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:16:36PM +0200, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
There is a new version of eselect-init in the
dev-libs/igraph
For me, the big selling points of eselect-init are:
1. as release engineer, i can prepare images that use either systemd
or openrc (at present time these are the two supported options) and do
it reliably, programmatically.
2. as distro maintainer, i can roll out a migration path from openrc
to
El vie, 21-06-2013 a las 13:19 +0200, Fabio Erculiani escribió:
For me, the big selling points of eselect-init are:
1. as release engineer, i can prepare images that use either systemd
or openrc (at present time these are the two supported options) and do
it reliably, programmatically.
2.
El jue, 14-02-2013 a las 19:19 +0100, Tomáš Chvátal escribió:
Hi,
I added the bug queries to http://qa-reports.gentoo.org/ based by year of
last
being touched.
Take look, try to close the oldest ones/invalid ones and so on.
I think it is lame we have bugs last touched in 2k5 :-P
2013/6/21 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org
Could maintainer-wanted assigned bugs be filtered? Otherwise we see a
ton of that kind of bugs that, I think, we already know can become
really old ;)
Thanks!
You can do such yourself. Just clone the repo [1] and commit the updated
links.
Also my
On 06/21/2013 01:26 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
Thanks for the explanation. But I think that, currently, the only
remaining objection is whether play with /sbin/init (that needs
sysvinit to be changed if I don't misremember) or with /sbin/einit.
Looks like mgorny has shown some problems on relying
On 21 June 2013 12:44, Tomáš Chvátal tomas.chva...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/6/21 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org
Could maintainer-wanted assigned bugs be filtered? Otherwise we see a
ton of that kind of bugs that, I think, we already know can become
really old ;)
Thanks!
You can do such
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Andreas K. Huettel
dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote:
Am Sonntag, 16. Juni 2013, 14:20:38 schrieb Pacho Ramos:
Will drop it in two weeks if nobody joins
Thanks
I've added myself to the vmware herd for now.
However, I don't have much time and only really care
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 01:50:02PM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote:
On 06/21/2013 01:26 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
Thanks for the explanation. But I think that, currently, the only
remaining objection is whether play with /sbin/init (that needs
sysvinit to be changed if I don't misremember) or with
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:23:28PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
If eselect-init installs the wrapper as /sbin/einit, we don't have to
touch /sbin/init at all, then, the only thing someone would have to do
is to add an entry to their boot loader with init=/sbin/einit on the kcl
to use it.
Dnia 2013-06-21, o godz. 10:16:10
William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:23:28PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
If eselect-init installs the wrapper as /sbin/einit, we don't have to
touch /sbin/init at all, then, the only thing someone would have to do
is
El vie, 21-06-2013 a las 09:59 -0400, Mike Gilbert escribió:
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Andreas K. Huettel
dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote:
Am Sonntag, 16. Juni 2013, 14:20:38 schrieb Pacho Ramos:
Will drop it in two weeks if nobody joins
Thanks
I've added myself to the vmware herd
Fix the reason why the wrapper got broken then.
If the wrapper broke, it is most likely a symptom of a bigger problem.
I think that sysvinit's /sbin/init should be renamed to /sbin/sysvinit
(or /bin/sysvinit?), anyway...
--
Fabio Erculiani
El vie, 21-06-2013 a las 09:36 -0500, William Hubbs escribió:
[...]
No, he has his own versions of the systemd and sysvinit ebuilds which
move some of the installation to non-standard places as part of this
machinery, so it is not opt-in.
Also, there was an email on this thread showing that
On 21 June 2013 16:29, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Dnia 2013-06-21, o godz. 10:16:10
William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:23:28PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
If eselect-init installs the wrapper as /sbin/einit, we don't have to
touch
El dom, 17-03-2013 a las 11:02 -0400, Mike Gilbert escribió:
I just dropped myself due to lack of interest.
If anyone cares for any of the packages please take them over.
Will dissolve it next week if nobody joins then
Am Freitag, 21. Juni 2013, 17:47:35 schrieb Pacho Ramos:
El vie, 21-06-2013 a las 09:59 -0400, Mike Gilbert escribió:
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 11:25 AM, Andreas K. Huettel
dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote:
Am Sonntag, 16. Juni 2013, 14:20:38 schrieb Pacho Ramos:
Will drop it in two weeks if
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 05:23:51PM +0200, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
I think that sysvinit's /sbin/init should be renamed to /sbin/sysvinit
(or /bin/sysvinit?), anyway...
Feel free to file a request with sysvinit upstream to see if they will
do this; I don't think we should be randomly renaming
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 05:13:33PM +0100, Markos Chandras wrote:
On 21 June 2013 16:29, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Dnia 2013-06-21, o godz. 10:16:10
William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:23:28PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
If eselect-init
Hi all,
From what I've read on the list recently, there's a lot of demand for
non-maintainer updates to ebuilds. Esp. with the upcoming Git migration,
I predict there will be a much larger influx of changes from users.
Some developers (eg myself) have a general policy [2] that we send out
to the
Hi,
I'm open to all input, but here's some initial questions I'd like to
hear your answers to:
- How should developers, herds teams communicate how welcome they
are to NMU changes on their packages?
The way I've been doing this is:
- packages I maintain through herd - go ahead and be
Am Freitag, 21. Juni 2013, 14:50:29 schrieb Markos Chandras:
On 21 June 2013 12:44, Tomáš Chvátal tomas.chva...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/6/21 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org
Could maintainer-wanted assigned bugs be filtered? Otherwise we see a
ton of that kind of bugs that, I think, we already
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 03:04:11PM -0400, Alexis Ballier wrote:
- How should developers, herds teams communicate how welcome they
are to NMU changes on their packages?
The way I've been doing this is:
- packages I maintain through herd - go ahead and be responsible.
- if I add myself
Dnia 2013-06-21, o godz. 21:08:45
Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
Am Freitag, 21. Juni 2013, 14:50:29 schrieb Markos Chandras:
That is true. There is nothing special about there m-w bugs. They are
still unresolved bugs, for many years. No need to treat
them differently.
21.06.2013 23:08, Andreas K. Huettel пишет:
Am Freitag, 21. Juni 2013, 14:50:29 schrieb Markos Chandras:
On 21 June 2013 12:44, Tomáš Chvátal tomas.chva...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/6/21 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org
Could maintainer-wanted assigned bugs be filtered? Otherwise we see a
ton of
21.06.2013 23:22, Sergey Popov пишет:
2) package has dead upstream, does not build with current
gcc/glibc/binutils/whatever and can not be fixed - bug is closed as
OBSOLETE.
Of course i am talking about long-standing bugs, that assigned to
maintainer-wanted@. That's why OBSOLETE seems to be
On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 19:07:48 +
Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote:
- How do we encourage responsible ownership of changes that cause
breakage? [1]
That's something I'd like to get enlightened on. The, probably too
emotional, algorithm that doesn't scale I've been applying
On 06/21/2013 05:23 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
Fix the reason why the wrapper got broken then.
If the wrapper broke, it is most likely a symptom of a bigger problem.
I think that sysvinit's /sbin/init should be renamed to /sbin/sysvinit
(or /bin/sysvinit?), anyway...
/bin/init
lu
On 06/21/2013 06:50 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 05:13:33PM +0100, Markos Chandras wrote:
On 21 June 2013 16:29, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Dnia 2013-06-21, o godz. 10:16:10
William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:23:28PM +0200,
On 21/06/13 03:27 PM, Sergey Popov wrote:
21.06.2013 23:22, Sergey Popov пишет:
2) package has dead upstream, does not build with current
gcc/glibc/binutils/whatever and can not be fixed - bug is closed as
OBSOLETE.
Of course i am talking about long-standing bugs, that assigned to
On 06/21/2013 08:50 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
[NMU]
Abstract: Be verbose about your preferences.
== TL;DR ==
I'm missing this kind of information since the beginning.
After 2 (?) years, i've learned some policies, like herd:desktop-* is
free for all, don't touch herd:base-system and so on.
On 06/21/2013 10:31 PM, Michael Weber wrote:
On 06/21/2013 08:50 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
[NMU]
Forgot to mention, ChangeLog
metadata.xml is nice to have, but often dated.
ChangeLog carries a good source of information
- frequency of commits by maintainer
- history of non-maint-commits
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All,
The KDE team has added Plasma Active to the KDE overlay, under the
(provisional) category name kde-active. Plasma Active is based on KDE
and is designed for mobile devices. We are not able to test it at
present as none of the KDE team has a
On Friday 21 June 2013 14:50:54 Robin H. Johnson wrote:
From what I've read on the list recently, there's a lot of demand for
non-maintainer updates to ebuilds. Esp. with the upcoming Git migration,
I predict there will be a much larger influx of changes from users.
seems like we're somewhat
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 07:40:03PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Friday 21 June 2013 14:50:54 Robin H. Johnson wrote:
From what I've read on the list recently, there's a lot of demand for
non-maintainer updates to ebuilds. Esp. with the upcoming Git migration,
I predict there will be a
On Friday 21 June 2013 20:06:31 Robin H. Johnson wrote:
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 07:40:03PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Friday 21 June 2013 14:50:54 Robin H. Johnson wrote:
From what I've read on the list recently, there's a lot of demand for
non-maintainer updates to ebuilds. Esp.
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 08:17:38PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
I'm not going into review systems here at all, I'm simply trying to have
a policy of what changes are welcomed/blocked WITHOUT interaction from
the listed maintainer(s) of a given package/herd.
add a new field to metadata.xml
On Friday 21 June 2013 20:26:03 Robin H. Johnson wrote:
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 08:17:38PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
I'm not going into review systems here at all, I'm simply trying to
have a policy of what changes are welcomed/blocked WITHOUT interaction
from the listed maintainer(s)
On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 15:04:11 -0400
Alexis Ballier aball...@gentoo.org wrote:
I'm open to all input, but here's some initial questions I'd like to
hear your answers to:
- How should developers, herds teams communicate how welcome they
are to NMU changes on their packages?
The way I've
On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 22:41:51 +0200
Michael Weber x...@gentoo.org wrote:
Should be checked by bug wranglers, to cross-check for errors
resulting from non-maint commits (slackers will not reassign to the
person responsible) and other eager people to exchange thoughts and
maybe forming a herd.
On Fri, 21 Jun 2013, Luca Barbato wrote:
/bin/init
Why /bin? It shouldn't be in users' PATH.
Ulrich
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 09:06:30PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Friday 21 June 2013 20:26:03 Robin H. Johnson wrote:
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 08:17:38PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
I'm not going into review systems here at all, I'm simply trying to
have a policy of what changes are
On 06/22/2013 03:27 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jun 2013, Luca Barbato wrote:
/bin/init
Why /bin? It shouldn't be in users' PATH.
users' PATH, a joyful blast from the past, if I'm allowed to say that.
But it's all /usr/bin now [1].
Off topic -- I always have sbins in my non-root
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On 06/21/2013 09:42 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 09:06:30PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Friday 21 June 2013 20:26:03 Robin H. Johnson wrote:
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 08:17:38PM -0400, Mike Frysinger
wrote:
I'm not going
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