Re: [gentoo-dev] Dependencies default to accept any slot value acceptable (:*), can we default to :0 instead?

2013-12-09 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Mon, 09 Dec 2013 10:52:15 +0400 Sergey Popov pinkb...@gentoo.org wrote: In short - please do NOT do this. Why not? What about other solutions? What do you think? There have come up several solutions, the one suggested in the first mail is no longer of interest due to SLOT=0 no longer being

[gentoo-dev] About pam herd status

2013-12-09 Thread Pacho Ramos
Hello Is pam team still active? I wonder about this as, recently, we have needed to go ahead and fix some bugs related, for example, with pambase and pam_ssh Thanks for the info :)

[gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status

2013-12-09 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
I stopped caring about pambase when people decided to break it. I'm still officially pam herd as maintainer of Linux-PAM, pam_ssh I don't use and care very little about. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Pacho

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status

2013-12-09 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Montag 09 Dezember 2013, 14:21:17 schrieb Diego Elio Pettenò: I stopped caring about pambase when people decided to break it. link please? -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer kde, council signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up

2013-12-09 Thread Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/08/2013 05:25 PM, William Hubbs wrote: On Sat, Dec 07, 2013 at 12:52:08AM -0500, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote: 1.) If we are going to stuff this into @system then we probably want a USE=nonet flag to allow users to not pull anything in if

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up

2013-12-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina zeroch...@gentoo.org wrote: I can honestly say most of the time when setup my arm systems I'm unpacking the arm stage3 on an amd64 and then booting the arm device with the base stage3 and fixing things from there. I suppose it is possible

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dependencies default to accept any slot value acceptable (:*), can we default to :0 instead?

2013-12-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:55 AM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: For the dependency syntax, having :* as a default breaks things or causes a lot of work. If explicit slots (or :0) were the default, it works and you spare out dealing with lots of reverse dependencies when you introduce a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dependencies default to accept any slot value acceptable (:*), can we default to :0 instead?

2013-12-09 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Mon, 9 Dec 2013, Rich Freeman wrote: If you think that B isn't the empty set, it is trivial for you to demonstrate that this is the case. Simply give me a single example of a situation where: 1. It makes sense for a dep to use a new slot. 2. It makes sense for all of its reverse deps

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up

2013-12-09 Thread Steev Klimaszewski
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 10:28 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: Ok, now the concern is becoming more clear. You're intending to boot directly to the stage3 and not chroot into it, and so you want the stage3 to be a fully-functional userspace, though you don't actually need it to contain a

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up

2013-12-09 Thread Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/09/2013 10:28 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina zeroch...@gentoo.org wrote: I can honestly say most of the time when setup my arm systems I'm unpacking the arm stage3 on an amd64 and then booting

Re: [gentoo-dev] python versioned libraries or not

2013-12-09 Thread Luca Barbato
On 08/12/13 00:44, hero...@gentoo.org wrote: yac y...@gentoo.org writes: Shouldn't pkg-conifg --libs handle this? Oh, good idea. But boost doesn't have pkg-config entries. Then I see this one, an upstream issue https://svn.boost.org/trac/boost/ticket/1094 Are you willing to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status

2013-12-09 Thread Markos Chandras
On 12/09/2013 02:21 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: I stopped caring about pambase when people decided to break it. I'm still officially pam herd as maintainer of Linux-PAM, pam_ssh I don't use and care very little about. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu —

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up

2013-12-09 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 12/09/2013 10:50 PM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote: On 12/08/2013 05:25 PM, William Hubbs wrote: On Sat, Dec 07, 2013 at 12:52:08AM -0500, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote: 1.) If we are going to stuff this into @system then we probably want a USE=nonet flag to allow users to not pull anything

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dependencies default to accept any slot value acceptable (:*), can we default to :0 instead?

2013-12-09 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 17:19:34 +0100 Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, 9 Dec 2013, Rich Freeman wrote: If you think that B isn't the empty set, it is trivial for you to demonstrate that this is the case. Simply give me a single example of a situation where: 1. It makes

Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up

2013-12-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina zeroch...@gentoo.org wrote: I really don't like the idea of having no networking in the stage3 by default, however, I'm becoming more open minded on what qualifies as networking. What I'm wrestling with is this, what if I want to slap a

[gentoo-dev] last rites: dev-java/jdictrayapi

2013-12-09 Thread Michael Sterrett
# Michael Sterrett mr_bon...@gentoo.org (10 Dec 2013) # Dead upstream; requires java-1.5; open bugs: # https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196522 # https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=241512 # https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=355055 # Masked for removal on 20140109

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Releasing portage-2.2.8

2013-12-09 Thread Brian Dolbec
On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 14:56 +0100, Sebastian Luther wrote: Hi all, I'd like to release a new portage version. You may find the list of fixed bugs on the tracker [1] (those not marked as fixed). Most notable are the slot operator related fixes and the fix for binary packages with respect

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Releasing portage-2.2.8

2013-12-09 Thread Sebastian Luther
Am 09.12.2013 16:44, schrieb Brian Dolbec: On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 14:56 +0100, Sebastian Luther wrote: Hi all, I'd like to release a new portage version. You may find the list of fixed bugs on the tracker [1] (those not marked as fixed). Most notable are the slot operator related fixes and