[gentoo-dev] Should Gentoo do https by default?

2015-03-27 Thread Hanno Böck
Hi, Right now a number of Gentoo webpages are by default served over http. There is a growing trend to push more webpages to default to https, mostly pushed by google. I think this is a good thing and I think Gentoo should follow. Right now we seem to have a mix: * A number of webpages default

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should Gentoo do https by default?

2015-03-27 Thread Thomas D.
Hi, Hanno Böck wrote: Right now a number of Gentoo webpages are by default served over http. There is a growing trend to push more webpages to default to https, mostly pushed by google. I think this is a good thing and I think Gentoo should follow. +1 Right now we seem to have a mix: * A

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should Gentoo do https by default?

2015-03-27 Thread Marc Schiffbauer
TL;DR: Yes! * Hanno Böck schrieb am 27.03.15 um 15:33 Uhr: Hi, Right now a number of Gentoo webpages are by default served over http. There is a growing trend to push more webpages to default to https, mostly pushed by google. I think this is a good thing and I think Gentoo should follow.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should Gentoo do https by default?

2015-03-27 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Hanno Böck ha...@gentoo.org wrote: I'd propose the following: * Make all pages under .gentoo.org https by default * Make sure all use modern HTTPS features, including: * OCSP Stapling * HSTS * A secure collection of cipher suites * (one may add HPKP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should Gentoo do https by default?

2015-03-27 Thread Hanno Böck
On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 15:14:02 -0400 Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: As has been pointed out, this is a moot issue for Gentoo. However, I'm not aware of anybody who both offers a free certificate and will let you change your private key if it is compromised free of charge. I think wosign

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should Gentoo do https by default?

2015-03-27 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 03:33:15PM +0100, Hanno Böck wrote: Right now a number of Gentoo webpages are by default served over http. There is a growing trend to push more webpages to default to https, mostly pushed by google. I think this is a good thing and I think Gentoo should follow. Please

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should Gentoo do https by default?

2015-03-27 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 04:44:16PM +0100, Marc Schiffbauer wrote: Certificates are too expensive Gentoo already has certs for all pages, so this is not an argument here, but if this ever becomes an issue there are a number of CAs these days that issue free certs. In summer the community based

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should Gentoo do https by default?

2015-03-27 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 8:29 PM, Hanno Böck ha...@gentoo.org wrote: SSLUseStapling is Apache 2.3+ only, and that isn't stable yet. That's unfortunate, apache 2.2 is pretty outdated when it comes to tls security. Please help with the blockers for 2.4 stabilization! Cheers, Dirkjan

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should Gentoo do https by default?

2015-03-27 Thread Hanno Böck
On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 19:18:24 + Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: * Some with logins are mixed http/login-via-https, which makes them vulnerable to ssl-stripping-attacks (e.g. wiki.gentoo.org) Are you sure about this? Everything on wiki should always redirect to SSL very

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should Gentoo do https by default?

2015-03-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Marc Schiffbauer msch...@gentoo.org wrote: * Hanno Böck schrieb am 27.03.15 um 15:33 Uhr: Certificates are too expensive Gentoo already has certs for all pages, so this is not an argument here, but if this ever becomes an issue there are a number of CAs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should Gentoo do https by default?

2015-03-27 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 06:14:38PM +0100, Thomas D. wrote: Right now we seem to have a mix: * A number of webpages default to http and have optional https (www.gentoo.org) * Some with sensitive logins are already https by default (e.g. bugs.gentoo.org), but they don't use hsts, which

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should Gentoo do https by default?

2015-03-27 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 27 March 2015 at 19:14, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: StartSSL in fact refuses to revoke certificates even when people publish their private keys publicly. If you buy a previously-used domain you might want to make sure that there isn't a StartSSL certificate floating around for it

Re: [gentoo-dev] collab herd for cooperative pkg maintenance

2015-03-27 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 09:45:25PM +0100, Pacho Ramos wrote: El mié, 25-03-2015 a las 21:25 +, Robin H. Johnson escribió: [...] - timeout: this is how long you we suggest you wait for the maintainer/team to comment on your change. Format should be a short duration specifier per

Re: [gentoo-dev] collab herd for cooperative pkg maintenance

2015-03-27 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 27-03-2015 a las 21:03 +, Robin H. Johnson escribió: On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 09:45:25PM +0100, Pacho Ramos wrote: El mié, 25-03-2015 a las 21:25 +, Robin H. Johnson escribió: [...] - timeout: this is how long you we suggest you wait for the maintainer/team to

Re: [gentoo-dev] collab herd for cooperative pkg maintenance

2015-03-27 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 27 Mar 2015 22:14:04 +0100 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: I would prefer 1M (well... if the developer is not able to even comment in bug reports in 1 month, maybe he should have at least a devaway message explaining how to deal with his/her packages if he is not able to reply so

Re: [gentoo-dev] collab herd for cooperative pkg maintenance

2015-03-27 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 25-03-2015 a las 21:25 +, Robin H. Johnson escribió: [...] - timeout: this is how long you we suggest you wait for the maintainer/team to comment on your change. Format should be a short duration specifier per ISO8601 I'd like to default it to 1 week: 'P1W'. [...] I would

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: zsh completions -- optional or mandatory?

2015-03-27 Thread Ben de Groot
On 27 March 2015 at 00:51, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: The other method is shown by dev-vcs/hub at least, and maybe several other packages -- e.g. unconditionally installing the completions according to our small files installation practice and not reflecting the rdepend on