[gentoo-dev] Re: new eclass: go-live.eclass for handling go live ebuilds

2015-06-06 Thread Duncan
William Hubbs posted on Fri, 05 Jun 2015 14:12:51 -0500 as excerpted: On Fri, Jun 05, 2015 at 09:34:42AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: On Fri, Jun 05, 2015 at 12:54:45AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On 04 Jun 2015 14:10, William Hubbs wrote: # @DESCRIPTION: # This eclass is written to ease the

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-06-06, o godz. 09:26:08 Justin Lecher (jlec) j...@gentoo.org napisał(a): Can we get an agreement on how we are indenting metadata.xml? I like to properly format and indent metadata.xml, but without having an agreement or policy on the indention, I make unhappy by choosing the

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Sat, 06 Jun 2015, Justin Lecher (jlec) wrote: * 2 spaces * single tab So what should it be? Tabs are too wasteful on space. Therefore, two spaces, and no indentation of the top-level elements. Ulrich pgpmxfmE7_yBp.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Jason Zaman
On Sat, Jun 06, 2015 at 10:02:53AM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Sat, 6 Jun 2015, Michał Górny wrote: Tabs are too wasteful on space. Therefore, two spaces, and no indentation of the top-level elements. That's nonsense. Tab = 1 byte. Two spaces = 2 bytes. Visual space. :set ts=2

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-06-06, o godz. 10:02:53 Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On Sat, 6 Jun 2015, Michał Górny wrote: Tabs are too wasteful on space. Therefore, two spaces, and no indentation of the top-level elements. That's nonsense. Tab = 1 byte. Two spaces = 2 bytes. Visual

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-06-06, o godz. 09:46:27 Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On Sat, 06 Jun 2015, Justin Lecher (jlec) wrote: * 2 spaces * single tab So what should it be? Tabs are too wasteful on space. Therefore, two spaces, and no indentation of the top-level elements. That's

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 06/06/15 09:26, Justin Lecher (jlec) wrote: Hi everyone, Can we get an agreement on how we are indenting metadata.xml? I like to properly format and indent metadata.xml, but without having an agreement or policy on the indention, I make unhappy by choosing the wrong. The two options

[gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Justin Lecher (jlec)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi everyone, Can we get an agreement on how we are indenting metadata.xml? I like to properly format and indent metadata.xml, but without having an agreement or policy on the indention, I make unhappy by choosing the wrong. The two options which

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Sat, 6 Jun 2015, Michał Górny wrote: Tabs are too wasteful on space. Therefore, two spaces, and no indentation of the top-level elements. That's nonsense. Tab = 1 byte. Two spaces = 2 bytes. Visual space. Ulrich pgpYsZj5GseK_.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Jason Zaman
On Sat, Jun 06, 2015 at 09:34:41AM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2015-06-06, o godz. 09:26:08 Justin Lecher (jlec) j...@gentoo.org napisał(a): Can we get an agreement on how we are indenting metadata.xml? I like to properly format and indent metadata.xml, but without having an

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Sat, 6 Jun 2015, Duncan wrote: *If* we should agree on using tabs, then we should also standardise the tab width. Using the same rules for indenting and whitespace as for ebuilds (i.e., tab stops every four positions) suggests itself:

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Sat, 6 Jun 2015, Michał Górny wrote: Visual space is what you set in your editor. Which also gives tab the advantage that you can set it to something good for you, like 'more than 2 spaces so that it is readable'. *If* we should agree on using tabs, then we should also standardise the tab

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Kent Fredric
On 7 June 2015 at 00:22, Justin Lecher (jlec) j...@gentoo.org wrote: * linewidth 80 (why do we have this short limit still in 2015) I wouldn't say this is the reason... but there's a specific benefit for me at least with the font size I use and the screen size I have. Means you can fit 2

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Duncan
Ulrich Mueller posted on Sat, 06 Jun 2015 12:17:25 +0200 as excerpted: On Sat, 6 Jun 2015, Michał Górny wrote: Visual space is what you set in your editor. Which also gives tab the advantage that you can set it to something good for you, like 'more than 2 spaces so that it is readable'.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 09:25:33 +0200 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: On 06/06/15 09:26, Justin Lecher (jlec) wrote: Hi everyone, Can we get an agreement on how we are indenting metadata.xml? I like to properly format and indent metadata.xml, but without having an agreement or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Justin Lecher (jlec)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 06/06/15 14:07, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Sat, 6 Jun 2015, Duncan wrote: *If* we should agree on using tabs, then we should also standardise the tab width. Using the same rules for indenting and whitespace as for ebuilds (i.e., tab stops

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov
* linewidth 80 (why do we have this short limit still in 2015) Actually, I dislike that too, but the reason is simple: some people still using text-mode terminals. // It would be nice to finally fix that, but let's be realistic: it looks like it wouldn't be finished in the near 10 years :-/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Justin Lecher (jlec)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 06/06/15 17:21, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 06/06/2015 08:22 AM, Justin Lecher (jlec) wrote: * linewidth 80 (why do we have this short limit still in 2015) It's ancient typographic wisdom that the optimal measure (number of characters

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 06/06/2015 08:22 AM, Justin Lecher (jlec) wrote: * linewidth 80 (why do we have this short limit still in 2015) It's ancient typographic wisdom that the optimal measure (number of characters in column of text) is somewhere between 45 and 75. It varies somewhat depending on the typeface

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2015-06-06 Thread Jauhien Piatlicki
Hi, the list of packages that I'm no longer interested in: media-sound/apulse -- needs version bump dev-util/android-ndk -- needs version bump I will remove myself from maintainers of these packages and, if there is no other maintainers reassign bugs to maintainer-needed. dev-util/ext4_utils

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2015-06-06 Thread Jason Zaman
On Sat, Jun 06, 2015 at 06:02:48PM +0200, Jauhien Piatlicki wrote: Hi, the list of packages that I'm no longer interested in: media-sound/apulse -- needs version bump dev-util/android-ndk -- needs version bump I'll take android-ndk since I already maintain android-studio. -- Jason

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag, 6. Juni 2015, 09:26:08 schrieb Justin Lecher (jlec): Hi everyone, Can we get an agreement on how we are indenting metadata.xml? I like to properly format and indent metadata.xml, but without having an agreement or policy on the indention, I make unhappy by choosing the wrong.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 3:26 AM, Justin Lecher (jlec) j...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi everyone, Can we get an agreement on how we are indenting metadata.xml? I like to properly format and indent metadata.xml, but without having an agreement or

[gentoo-dev] Re: [OT] Re: Re: RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Duncan
Andrew Savchenko posted on Sat, 06 Jun 2015 20:36:13 +0300 as excerpted: On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 18:35:41 +0600 Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote: * linewidth 80 (why do we have this short limit still in 2015) Actually, I dislike that too, but the reason is simple: some people still using

[OT] Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 18:35:41 +0600 Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote: * linewidth 80 (why do we have this short limit still in 2015) Actually, I dislike that too, but the reason is simple: some people still using text-mode terminals. // It would be nice to finally fix that, but let's be

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Allan Wegan
The two options which are already suggested are * 2 spaces * single tab So what should it be? Two spaces per indention with a maximum line width of 80 single-width Unicode grapheme clusters (equals the with of 80 ASCII characters). -- Allan Wegan Jabber: allanwe...@jabber.ccc.de

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2015-06-06 Thread Daniel zlg Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 06/06/2015 09:02 AM, Jauhien Piatlicki wrote: Hi, the list of packages that I'm no longer interested in: media-sound/apulse -- needs version bump dev-util/android-ndk -- needs version bump I will remove myself from maintainers of these

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Indention in metadata.xml

2015-06-06 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 14:22:38 +0200 Justin Lecher (jlec) wrote: Exactly, that was my intention. How about * indent with tab * tab == 4 spaces * linewidth 80 (why do we have this short limit still in 2015) Because of readability and ergonomics. The optimal page width is about 67