Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: What are eblits?

On 28 May 2016 at 05:35, rindeal wrote: > This whole concept, however, raises the question (as suggested by > Ciaran McCreesh and Duncan) if it's allowed to split ebuilds to > several bash scripts and what have QA and dev-manual got to say in > this regard? Personally I'd

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 05/27/2016 06:05 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > On 05/27/2016 02:45 PM, NP-Hardass wrote: >> Not on hand, but as the MATE maintainer, I can tell you that starting >> with MATE-1.14, two packages are gtk3 only, and starting with 1.16, four >> more are. >> > > Aha, thanks for offering that info.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 05/27/2016 02:45 PM, NP-Hardass wrote: > On 05/27/2016 02:57 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: >> As far as I'm concerned, if any package I maintain offers both gtk2 and >> gtk3 support, it would be irresponsible for me to *not* offer that >> choice. Gentoo is about flexibility and giving power to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 05/27/2016 02:57 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > As far as I'm concerned, if any package I maintain offers both gtk2 and > gtk3 support, it would be irresponsible for me to *not* offer that > choice. Gentoo is about flexibility and giving power to the user. Choice > is a central part of that, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 05/27/2016 11:40 AM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 05:21:06PM +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Despite it being 2016 and gtk2 pretty much dead, buried and forgotten >> upstream, many applications still support only gtk2, have subtle issues >> with their gtk3 port, or

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 05/27/2016 10:21 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Hello, > > Despite it being 2016 and gtk2 pretty much dead, buried and forgotten > upstream, many applications still support only gtk2, have subtle issues > with their gtk3 port, or support both, with some of our userbase > clinging to gtk2 for

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 01:55:41PM -0400, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 5/27/16 1:44 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 01:14:17PM -0400, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > >> On 5/27/16 12:59 PM, rindeal wrote: > >>> On 27 May 2016 at 18:54, landis blackwell

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] git-r3.eclass: Support EGIT_SUBMODULES to filter used submodules, #497164

On 05/23/2016 12:54 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > --- > eclass/git-r3.eclass | 53 > +++- > 1 file changed, 52 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) > > diff --git a/eclass/git-r3.eclass b/eclass/git-r3.eclass > index 957ff08..61218a8 100644 > ---

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 05/27/2016 10:14 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 5/27/16 12:59 PM, rindeal wrote: >> On 27 May 2016 at 18:54, landis blackwell wrote: >>> I stopped reading after you reminded me it was 2016 >> >> Good to know, thanks for stopping by. >> > > Yeah the "its year"

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 05/27/2016 07:21 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Hello, > > Despite it being 2016 and gtk2 pretty much dead, buried and forgotten > upstream, many applications still support only gtk2, have subtle issues > with their gtk3 port, or support both, with some of our userbase > clinging to gtk2 for

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] improper use of X

On 27/05/16 02:44 PM, rindeal wrote: > > It also clearly shows how is this flag misused: > > dev-python/PyQt4:X - Build bindings for the QtGui module > dev-python/pyside:X - Build QtGui and QtTest modules > media-gfx/fbida:X - Install the Motif based image viewer "ida" > media-video/aravis:X -

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 27 May 2016 at 20:26, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Ühel kenal päeval, R, 27.05.2016 kell 14:10, kirjutas > waltd...@waltdnes.org: >> While we're at it, why are there 23 occurences of the "X" useflag >> in >> /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc when it exists in >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 27/05/16 02:23 PM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > If gtk2 support is removed though, then per gnome policy gtk3 component > should come with USE=gtk and per QA policy USE=gtk3. > > The QA policy is not finalized and completely contradicts our side of > things, hence discussions are needed, but did not

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

Ühel kenal päeval, R, 27.05.2016 kell 14:10, kirjutas waltd...@waltdnes.org: >   While we're at it, why are there 23 occurences of the "X" useflag > in > /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc when it exists in > /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc ???  I'm talking about stuff like... > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

Ühel kenal päeval, R, 27.05.2016 kell 13:14, kirjutas Anthony G. Basile: > On 5/27/16 12:59 PM, rindeal wrote: > > On 27 May 2016 at 18:54, landis blackwell > m> wrote: > > > I stopped reading after you reminded me it was 2016 > > > > Good to know, thanks for stopping

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 27/05/16 16:40, William Hubbs wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 05:21:06PM +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Despite it being 2016 and gtk2 pretty much dead, buried and forgotten >> upstream, many applications still support only gtk2, have subtle issues >> with their gtk3 port, or

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 05:21:06PM +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote > This would ideally not be needed, as the package would instead be > slotted and parallel installable for gtk2 and gtk3, which should be > theoretically possible in all cases, because gtk2 and gtk3 may not live > in the same process,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 5/27/16 1:44 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 01:14:17PM -0400, Anthony G. Basile wrote: >> On 5/27/16 12:59 PM, rindeal wrote: >>> On 27 May 2016 at 18:54, landis blackwell wrote: I stopped reading after you reminded me it was 2016 >>> >>>

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 01:14:17PM -0400, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 5/27/16 12:59 PM, rindeal wrote: > > On 27 May 2016 at 18:54, landis blackwell wrote: > >> I stopped reading after you reminded me it was 2016 > > > > Good to know, thanks for stopping by. > > >

[gentoo-dev] Re: What are eblits?

I've found some more info on this topic from the internet archive. - "[gentoo-dev] RFC: eblits.eclass" http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?message_id=4BC0F659.7000506%40gentoo.org - https://github.com/transtone/zm-overlay/blob/master/eclass/eblits.eclass - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GLEP:33 -

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

> (qa hat in place) > > There is a qa policy about this. All packages in the tree should > move away from the non-versioned gtk use flag to versioned use flags, > like the ones the qt team uses [1] [2]. > > This seems to be the best compromise. It allows the maintainers of the > packages to decide

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On Fri, 27 May 2016 11:35:01 -0500 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Brian Dolbec > wrote: [snip] > > I'll be really sad when gtk2 is totally abolished in Gentoo. :( > > I suppose I'll have to break down and switch to KDE maybe.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 5/27/16 12:59 PM, rindeal wrote: > On 27 May 2016 at 18:54, landis blackwell wrote: >> I stopped reading after you reminded me it was 2016 > > Good to know, thanks for stopping by. > Yeah the "its year" meme has been making its rounds of the internet. anyhow, my

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 27 May 2016 at 18:54, landis blackwell wrote: > I stopped reading after you reminded me it was 2016 Good to know, thanks for stopping by.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

I stopped reading after you reminded me it was 2016 On May 27, 2016 9:21 AM, "Mart Raudsepp" wrote: > Hello, > > Despite it being 2016 and gtk2 pretty much dead, buried and forgotten > upstream, many applications still support only gtk2, have subtle issues > with their gtk3

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Brian Dolbec wrote: [snip] > I'll be really sad when gtk2 is totally abolished in Gentoo. :( > I suppose I'll have to break down and switch to KDE maybe. > > In my opinion the upstream gtk developers have gone somewhat bonkers > with their

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/27/2016 09:21 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Hello, > > Despite it being 2016 and gtk2 pretty much dead, buried and forgotten > upstream, many applications still support only gtk2, have subtle issues > with their gtk3 port, or support both, with

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 05/27/2016 04:21 PM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Hello, > > Despite it being 2016 and gtk2 pretty much dead, buried and forgotten > upstream, many applications still support only gtk2, have subtle issues > with their gtk3 port, or support both, with some of our userbase > clinging to gtk2 for

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 05:21:06PM +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Hello, > > Despite it being 2016 and gtk2 pretty much dead, buried and forgotten > upstream, many applications still support only gtk2, have subtle issues > with their gtk3 port, or support both, with some of our userbase > clinging

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On 27/05/16 10:21 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > [ Snip! ] Agree on all other portions above; its the Applications part below that is most contentious though and is also what I care most about: > * Applications may only use a gtk2 based stack or gtk3 based stack in a > given version/revision. gtk3

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH 2/2] pym/portage/util/locale.py: add a C module to help check locale

On Fri, 27 May 2016 10:40:46 -0400 "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: > On 5/23/16 10:25 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Mon, 23 May 2016 08:08:18 -0400 > > "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: > > > >> On 5/23/16 2:44 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > >>> On

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

On Fri, 27 May 2016 17:21:06 +0300 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > Hello, > > Despite it being 2016 and gtk2 pretty much dead, buried and forgotten > upstream, many applications still support only gtk2, have subtle > issues with their gtk3 port, or support both, with some of our >

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH 2/2] pym/portage/util/locale.py: add a C module to help check locale

On 5/23/16 10:25 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Mon, 23 May 2016 08:08:18 -0400 > "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: > >> On 5/23/16 2:44 AM, Michał Górny wrote: >>> On Sun, 22 May 2016 13:04:40 -0400 >>> "Anthony G. Basile" wrote: >>> From:

Re: [gentoo-dev] What are eblits?

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Kent Fredric wrote: > That said, its a very confusing system to get your head around, > because its *basically* yet another "mixin" system like "inherit", but > done in bash, which itself is a rather strange language to be doing > something

[gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH 1/3] pym/portage/util/locale.py: fix decoding for python2 with some locales

From: "Anthony G. Basile" When using python2 with some locales, like turkish, chr() is passed values not in range(128) which cannot be decoded as ASCII, thus throwing a UnicodeDecodeError exception. We use _unicode_decode() from portage.util to address this.

[gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH 3/3] pym/portage/util/locale.py: add a C module to help check locale

From: "Anthony G. Basile" The current method to check for a sane system locale is to use python's ctypes.util.find_library() to construct a full library path to the system libc.so and pass that path to ctypes.CDLL() so we can call toupper() and tolower() directly. However,

[gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH 2/3] setup.py: add stub for building custom modules in C/C++

From: "Anthony G. Basile" Currently portage doesn't include any custom modules written in C/C++. This commit introduces stub code for building such modules in setup.py. Signed-off-by: Anthony G. Basile --- setup.py | 11 ++- 1 file changed, 10

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] gtk/gtk2/gtk3 USE flag situation

Hello, Despite it being 2016 and gtk2 pretty much dead, buried and forgotten upstream, many applications still support only gtk2, have subtle issues with their gtk3 port, or support both, with some of our userbase clinging to gtk2 for dubious political or aesthetical reasons. For the latter

Re: [gentoo-dev] What are eblits?

On Fri, 27 May 2016 00:28:35 +0200 rindeal wrote: > 1) what are they? A horrible QA violation. > 2) why are they used? Because some people like to feel special... -- Ciaran McCreesh

[gentoo-portage-dev] New meeting

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Brian approached me a while back saying we need a new meeting. So let's do that. Sorry for taking so long. So set your availability[0], and add your items to the agenda[1]. [0] [1]

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH v2 2/2] Colorize packages in world_sets (bug 583164)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 26/05/16 17:29, Zac Medico wrote: > Looks good to me. ACK. Thank you. Pushed as 40cdc1c3f467ac94d3a966777eb6a0907c269550. - -- Alexander berna...@gentoo.org https://secure.plaimi.net/~alexander -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] How to deal with LINGUAS mess?

Ühel kenal päeval, L, 21.05.2016 kell 11:19, kirjutas waltd...@waltdnes.org: > On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 09:41:28AM +0200, Micha?? Górny wrote > > 3. We remove LINGUAS from USE_EXPAND and stop using it. If ebuilds > > have > > a good reason to use flags for localization, we introduce a new, > >