Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding USE=udev to linux profiles

2018-07-19 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 07/20/2018 01:06 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote: >> >> * They can't be undone. It's next to impossible for me to undo >> USE=udev when set in a profile that is inherited by all others. > > You set USE=-udev in your make.conf. That doesn't work, for reasons already stated. If I set USE="-udev"

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding USE=udev to linux profiles

2018-07-19 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, R, 20.07.2018 kell 12:40, kirjutas Benda Xu: > > Any objections to this idea? > > To represent the Gentoo Prefix users, we would like to have USE=udev > turned off or even hard masked on linux-prefix profiles. Nothing stops you from doing that in prefix profiles, just like

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding USE=udev to linux profiles

2018-07-19 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, R, 20.07.2018 kell 00:04, kirjutas Michael Orlitzky: > On 07/19/2018 11:49 PM, Aaron Bauman wrote: > > You are denying the majority default here. Granted, we don't have > > statistics... Cuz Gentoo. > > No I'm not. I'm saying add them per-package, because it's a better >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding USE=udev to linux profiles

2018-07-19 Thread Benda Xu
Hi Ben, Ben Kohler writes: > I'd like to propose adding USE=udev to our linux profiles (in > profiles/default/linux/make.defaults probably). This flag is already > enabled on desktop profiles but it also affects quite a few packages > used on non-desktop linux systems. > > This flag provides

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding USE=udev to linux profiles

2018-07-19 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 07/19/2018 11:49 PM, Aaron Bauman wrote: > You are denying the majority default here. Granted, we don't have > statistics... Cuz Gentoo. No I'm not. I'm saying add them per-package, because it's a better design. We have package.use in profiles now, not just IUSE defaults. Global defaults have

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding USE=udev to linux profiles

2018-07-19 Thread Aaron Bauman
Please provide substantial evidence for your claims. Furthermore, a profile of your choice would be honorable. On July 19, 2018 9:58:25 PM EDT, Rich Freeman wrote: >On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:42 PM Andrew Savchenko >wrote: >> >> On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 16:51:17 -0500 Ben Kohler wrote: >> > Hello,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding USE=udev to linux profiles

2018-07-19 Thread Aaron Bauman
It's not about *you*. Please provide a reasonable justification. On July 19, 2018 9:54:40 PM EDT, Mikle Kolyada wrote: > > >On 20.07.2018 04:42, Andrew Savchenko wrote: >> On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 16:51:17 -0500 Ben Kohler wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I'd like to propose adding USE=udev to our linux

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding USE=udev to linux profiles

2018-07-19 Thread Aaron Bauman
You are the minimalist... Not the rest. Provide a reasonable scenario please. On July 19, 2018 9:42:11 PM EDT, Andrew Savchenko wrote: >On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 16:51:17 -0500 Ben Kohler wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'd like to propose adding USE=udev to our linux profiles (in >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding USE=udev to linux profiles

2018-07-19 Thread Aaron Bauman
You are denying the majority default here. Granted, we don't have statistics... Cuz Gentoo. On July 19, 2018 6:00:44 PM EDT, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >On 07/19/2018 05:51 PM, Ben Kohler wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'd like to propose adding USE=udev to our linux profiles (in >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding USE=udev to linux profiles

2018-07-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:42 PM Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 16:51:17 -0500 Ben Kohler wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'd like to propose adding USE=udev to our linux profiles (in > > profiles/default/linux/make.defaults probably). This flag is already > > enabled on desktop

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding USE=udev to linux profiles

2018-07-19 Thread Mikle Kolyada
On 20.07.2018 04:42, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 16:51:17 -0500 Ben Kohler wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I'd like to propose adding USE=udev to our linux profiles (in >> profiles/default/linux/make.defaults probably). This flag is already >> enabled on desktop profiles but it also

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding USE=udev to linux profiles

2018-07-19 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 16:51:17 -0500 Ben Kohler wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to propose adding USE=udev to our linux profiles (in > profiles/default/linux/make.defaults probably). This flag is already > enabled on desktop profiles but it also affects quite a few packages > used on non-desktop

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: What means bup?

2018-07-19 Thread Mikle Kolyada
On 18.07.2018 19:57, Matthew Thode wrote: > On 18-07-18 11:28:16, Mike Gilbert wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 3:26 AM, Matthew Thode >> wrote: >>> On 18-07-18 09:16:07, Johannes Huber wrote: Hi all, english is not my mother language, so please clarify what bup means, just

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding USE=udev to linux profiles

2018-07-19 Thread Ben Kohler
On 07/19/2018 05:00 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: Please add defaults per-package, only where they make sense. Enabling flags globally creates a huge headache for people that want them off. If I want to undo your new flag, I have to set USE="-udev" globally, and that clobbers any important

Re: [gentoo-dev] Adding USE=udev to linux profiles

2018-07-19 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 07/19/2018 05:51 PM, Ben Kohler wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to propose adding USE=udev to our linux profiles (in > profiles/default/linux/make.defaults probably). This flag is already > enabled on desktop profiles but it also affects quite a few packages > used on non-desktop linux

[gentoo-dev] Adding USE=udev to linux profiles

2018-07-19 Thread Ben Kohler
Hello, I'd like to propose adding USE=udev to our linux profiles (in profiles/default/linux/make.defaults probably). This flag is already enabled on desktop profiles but it also affects quite a few packages used on non-desktop linux systems. This flag provides useful functionality that

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving default location of portage tree (was: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-07-29)

2018-07-19 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Ulrich Mueller schrieb: Users must never need to modify files in /var/lib to configure a package's operation, and _the_specific_file_hierarchy_ used to store the data _must_not_be_ _exposed_ to regular users." One small note, while it is never needed to modify, skel.ebuild would then be a

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs: net-im/qtox, net-libs/tox

2018-07-19 Thread Jonas Stein
Dear all, The following packages are up for grabs: net-im/qtox net-libs/tox after retirement of the proxied maintainer. https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/net-im/qtox https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/net-libs/tox -- Best, Jonas

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs: app-backup/fsarchiver, app-cdr/daa2iso...

2018-07-19 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, Johannes Huber wrote: >> app-doc/devmanual > I took those by myself. I have added the devmanual project as well, as a backup maintainer. Ulrich pgpB8U3Eu2VqK.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs: app-backup/fsarchiver, app-cdr/daa2iso...

2018-07-19 Thread Mikle Kolyada
On 19.07.2018 11:10, Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, > > Due to Markos Chandras' prolonged absence, the following packages are up > for grabs now: [snip] > sys-auth/sssd > > Will take this one, someone else is welcome to help :) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] [PATCH v2] distutils-r1.eclass: Enable parallel builds in py3.5+

2018-07-19 Thread Michał Górny
Python 3.5+ introduces parallel build support in distutils. Take advantage of that by passing appropriate -j option. Since distutils does not support an equivalent of --load-average, default to the number of CPUs+1 when unspecified. In order to avoid breaking stable systems, introduce the new

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs: app-backup/fsarchiver, app-cdr/daa2iso...

2018-07-19 Thread Brian Dolbec
On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 10:10:11 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, > > Due to Markos Chandras' prolonged absence, the following packages are > up for grabs now: > > dev-util/buildbot-slave I've taken over all buildbot maintenance. This one will be tree-cleaned soon. The old buildbot-0.8

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] distutils-r1.eclass: Enable parallel builds in py3.5+

2018-07-19 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 10:14 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > W dniu czw, 19.07.2018 o godzinie 10∶06 -0400, użytkownik Mike Gilbert > napisał: >> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 10:48 AM, Michał Górny wrote: >> > W dniu wto, 17.07.2018 o godzinie 10∶40 -0400, użytkownik Mike Gilbert >> > napisał: >> > > On

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] distutils-r1.eclass: Enable parallel builds in py3.5+

2018-07-19 Thread Michał Górny
W dniu czw, 19.07.2018 o godzinie 10∶06 -0400, użytkownik Mike Gilbert napisał: > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 10:48 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > W dniu wto, 17.07.2018 o godzinie 10∶40 -0400, użytkownik Mike Gilbert > > napisał: > > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 4:41 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] distutils-r1.eclass: Enable parallel builds in py3.5+

2018-07-19 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 10:48 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > W dniu wto, 17.07.2018 o godzinie 10∶40 -0400, użytkownik Mike Gilbert > napisał: >> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 4:41 AM, Michał Górny wrote: >> > Python 3.5+ introduces parallel build support in distutils. Take >> > advantage of that by

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs: app-backup/fsarchiver, app-cdr/daa2iso...

2018-07-19 Thread Juippisi .
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 8:10 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, > > Due to Markos Chandras' prolonged absence, the following packages are up > for grabs now: > > sys-kernel/pf-sources > I would be interested in maintaining this. Been using it for a long time and bumped the ebuild locally. I've

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs: app-backup/fsarchiver, app-cdr/daa2iso...

2018-07-19 Thread Johannes Huber
Am 19.07.2018 um 10:10 schrieb Michał Górny: > Hello, > > Due to Markos Chandras' prolonged absence, the following packages are up > for grabs now. > app-doc/devmanual > net-misc/sshpass > sys-apps/cpuid > sys-apps/daemonize > sys-fs/fuse-zip > x11-misc/fpm2 > x11-misc/obconf I took those by

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs: net-news/rssguard,...

2018-07-19 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, K, 18.07.2018 kell 23:38, kirjutas Jonas Stein: > net-misc/streamlink I can take this, as I use it. Co-maintainers very welcome. Mart signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages up for grabs: net-news/rssguard,...

2018-07-19 Thread Johannes Huber
Am 18.07.2018 um 23:38 schrieb Jonas Stein: > ... > app-crypt/zulucrypt > app-admin/profile-cleaner > ... Took those two. Best regards, Johannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs: app-backup/fsarchiver, app-cdr/daa2iso...

2018-07-19 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, Due to Markos Chandras' prolonged absence, the following packages are up for grabs now: app-backup/fsarchiver app-cdr/daa2iso app-cdr/gaffitter app-doc/devmanual app-emulation/phpvirtualbox app-i18n/transifex-client app-misc/conmux app-misc/pysmssend app-misc/socnetv app-mobilephone/qtadb

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: moving default location of portage tree

2018-07-19 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Wed, 18 Jul 2018, Christopher Head wrote: > On July 18, 2018 2:55:55 AM PDT, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> It was mentioned that all three directories (ebuild repository, >> binary packages, distfiles) have some characteristics of a cache. >> However, I think this is much more true for