Re: [gentoo-dev] QA PG 0305 (manpages must always be installed) discussion

2023-01-19 Thread Cedric Sodhi
On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 11:33:20AM -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On Thu, 2023-01-19 at 13:25 +0200, Cedric Sodhi wrote: > > In this case, the expectation to compile manpages does not come free > > of cost and protects noone. By the above formulation, the cost > > "should" not come in the form

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA PG 0305 (manpages must always be installed) discussion

2023-01-19 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Thu, 2023-01-19 at 13:25 +0200, Cedric Sodhi wrote: > > In this case, the expectation to compile manpages does not come free > of cost and protects noone. By the above formulation, the cost > "should" not come in the form of additional (heavy! dev-python/sphinx > and deps are 75M)

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA PG 0305 (manpages must always be installed) discussion

2023-01-19 Thread Yuan Liao (Leo3418)
On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 01:25:19PM +0200, Cedric Sodhi wrote: > I would like to continue https://bugs.gentoo.org/890589 here and also > increase the audience. The original policy was voted upon by 6 seniors and > approved with no documented opposition or discussion. I think it's possible > that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Defining TZ in the base system profile?

2023-01-19 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Wed, 2023-01-18 at 20:48 -0500, Joshua Kinard wrote: > > So is adding a default definition of TZ to our base system > /etc/profile something we want to look at? I > haven't tried any other methods of benchmarking to see if not making > those additional syscalls is just placebo > or if there

Re: [gentoo-dev] Defining TZ in the base system profile?

2023-01-19 Thread Arsen Arsenović
Michał Górny writes: > On Wed, 2023-01-18 at 20:48 -0500, Joshua Kinard wrote: >> So this article[1] from 2017 popped up again on the tech radar via >> hackernews[2] and a few other sites[3]. It >> annotates how if the envvar TZ is undefined on a Linux system, it causes >> glibc to generate

[gentoo-dev] QA PG 0305 (manpages must always be installed) discussion

2023-01-19 Thread Cedric Sodhi
I would like to continue https://bugs.gentoo.org/890589 here and also increase the audience. The original policy was voted upon by 6 seniors and approved with no documented opposition or discussion. I think it's possible that it went under the radar a bit. It says: > Packages must not disable