Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: zlib breakage

2011-09-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 14:18, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 3:10 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 02:49, Duncan wrote: Unfortunately, locking a bug to kill the whining is likely to have rather more negative effects than one might have anticipated.  One would

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev and /usr

2011-09-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday, September 25, 2011 05:53:18 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 09:59, Rich Freeman wrote: I'm a bit concerned that the future of linux on the desktop is going to be one where your choices are things like Android

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev and /usr

2011-09-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday, September 25, 2011 08:53:08 Rich Freeman wrote: However, I can't seem to find a chromeos-meta package in portage, and the fact that my chromeos laptop has some feature does me little good in getting my Gentoo desktop to do the same. At best ChromeOS is a fork of Gentoo, and the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev and /usr

2011-09-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday, September 25, 2011 21:57:27 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: But neither portage, nor the portage tree, nor any of our branding are shipped with ChromeOS. Hence it's as much a Gentoo install as $company that uses portage to build $image for their embedded device, but doesn't leave any trace

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: zlib breakage

2011-09-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 02:43, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 09/24/2011 08:24 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: the defines in question are internal to zlib.  packages relying on them are broken, plain and simple. Then fix *them*, not zlib. they are being fixed already Then why did you fix zlib

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: zlib breakage

2011-09-24 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 02:49, Duncan wrote: Mike Frysinger posted on Sat, 24 Sep 2011 01:10:43 -0400 as excerpted: it was purely to keep people from continuing to whine with circular logic.  if bugzilla had a way to temporarily lock comments, i would have used that. In theory, that'd

Re: [gentoo-dev] zlib breakage

2011-09-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, September 23, 2011 19:30:15 Alec Warner wrote: On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 3:48 AM, Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: Because he cannot do this; the bug is dev-only now and Mike un-cc'ed him after setting the

Re: [gentoo-dev] zlib breakage

2011-09-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, September 23, 2011 18:02:50 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: It's a mess right now and it just doesn't look right. The bug that deals with it was locked from public view: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=383179 Is there any good reason why this bug is dev-only? Going

Re: [gentoo-dev] zlib breakage

2011-09-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, September 23, 2011 17:44:50 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I believe something needs to be done with the zlib-1.2.5.1-r1 and -r2 packages currently in the tree. The maintainer of zlib pushed those revisions with a patch that alters macro identifiers, making Gentoo's zlib incompatible

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs: virtual/{cron,dev-manager,inetd,libc,linux-sources,man,os-headers,package-manager,skkserv,ssh,w3m}

2011-09-22 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday, September 22, 2011 14:23:55 Tim Harder wrote: On 2011-09-22 Thu 01:53, Ulrich Mueller wrote: In the course of the old-style to new-style transition of virtuals, I had taken maintainership of several new-style virtual packages. After several months have passed without any

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please don't use IUSE=static-libs unless really necessary

2011-09-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:36:57 Thomas Kahle wrote: On 09:10 Mon 19 Sep 2011, Michał Górny wrote: On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 18:39:32 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday, September 18, 2011 18:16:30 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Michał Górny wrote

Re: [gentoo-dev] new `usex` helper

2011-09-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
since there's been no new feedback in a while, i'll add this to eutils.eclass in a while: usex() { use $1 echo ${2-yes}$4 || echo ${3-no}$5 ; } then once it hits the PMS, i'll put EAPI wrapping around it. -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please don't use IUSE=static-libs unless really necessary

2011-09-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday, September 19, 2011 03:10:45 Michał Górny wrote: On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 18:39:32 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday, September 18, 2011 18:16:30 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Michał Górny wrote: '$(use_enable static-libs static)' themselves. While

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please don't use IUSE=static-libs unless really necessary

2011-09-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday, September 19, 2011 10:57:30 Michał Górny wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:43:04 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday, September 19, 2011 03:10:45 Michał Górny wrote: On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 18:39:32 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday, September 18, 2011 18:16:30 Nirbheek Chauhan

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please don't use IUSE=static-libs unless really necessary

2011-09-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday, September 19, 2011 11:35:09 Michał Górny wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:11:31 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: by that token, i'll go ahead and remove glibc's static libraries since upstream doesn't even support static linking I'm probably ignorant so you'd have to elaborate

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Please don't use IUSE=static-libs unless really necessary

2011-09-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday, September 19, 2011 18:25:36 Duncan wrote: Mike Frysinger posted on Mon, 19 Sep 2011 12:05:39 -0400 as excerpted: On Monday, September 19, 2011 11:35:09 Michał Górny wrote: On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:11:31 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: by that token, i'll go ahead and remove glibc's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Please don't use IUSE=static-libs unless really necessary

2011-09-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday, September 19, 2011 20:58:41 Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday, September 19, 2011 18:25:36 Duncan wrote: By default? That's begging the question (logic sense) and consequently does not properly support your blanket your system is using static binaries right now statement

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please don't use IUSE=static-libs unless really necessary

2011-09-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday, September 18, 2011 18:16:30 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Michał Górny wrote: '$(use_enable static-libs static)' themselves. While at it, it may be better to just drop the flag if no other package relies on it and no user has ever requested the static

[gentoo-dev] glibc-2.13 stabilization

2011-09-17 Thread Mike Frysinger
'bout that time again. if you peeps know of anything blocking glibc-2.13 from going stable, mark the relevant bug as blocking the tracker. tracker: https://bugs.gentoo.org/354107 stabilization: https://bugs.gentoo.org/382377 -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Adding a tiny install-mask directory list to gx86

2011-09-16 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, September 16, 2011 11:14:28 Michał Górny wrote: On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 08:39:48 -0500 Donnie Berkholz wrote: I don't want this in my repo. By *your* repo you mean dev overlay? Noone forces you to declare additional paths. i think he meant maintaining masks for pkgs in his repo for

Re: [gentoo-dev] x32 fun pants

2011-09-16 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, September 16, 2011 09:36:32 Donnie Berkholz wrote: understanding is that it probably makes sense to switch to x32 no matter what you're using now (x86 or amd64). x32 needs a 64bit processor, so x86 cant go away as it's the only ABI that can run on 32bit processors but for 64bit

Re: [gentoo-dev] x32 fun pants

2011-09-16 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, September 16, 2011 10:06:07 Michał Górny wrote: But doesn't switching mean we're going to hit LFS PITA once again? LFS hasnt really been a pain in a long while. but it's something worth raising on the x32 lists (which i'll do) since x32 has native 64bit support (uint64_t == %rax).

Re: [gentoo-dev] x32 fun pants

2011-09-16 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, September 16, 2011 04:28:24 Stratos Psomadakis wrote: Is a x86/amd64/x32 multilib profile just going to provide toolchain support for x32 binaries (like x86 in a x86/amd64 multilib profile), or do we want a 'full' x32 profile, where every package is built by default as x32 code?

Re: [gentoo-dev] x32 fun pants

2011-09-16 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, September 16, 2011 12:01:43 Mike Frysinger wrote: On Friday, September 16, 2011 10:06:07 Michał Górny wrote: But doesn't switching mean we're going to hit LFS PITA once again? LFS hasnt really been a pain in a long while. but it's something worth raising on the x32 lists (which

Re: [gentoo-dev] x32 fun pants

2011-09-16 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, September 16, 2011 11:06:25 Markos Chandras wrote: On 09/16/11 10:58, Stratos Psomadakis wrote: On 09/16/2011 10:48 AM, Michał Górny wrote: On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:35:55 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: PS why not merge all x86 abis into one keyword? because x86_32 x86_64 x86_x32

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: x32 fun pants

2011-09-16 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, September 16, 2011 01:46:49 Duncan wrote: Mike Frysinger posted on Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:18:43 -0400 as excerpted: On Thursday, September 15, 2011 17:03:07 Michał Górny wrote: On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:33:48 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday, September 15, 2011 16:12:00 Michał

Re: [gentoo-dev] x32 fun pants

2011-09-16 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, September 16, 2011 15:09:52 Thomas Sachau wrote: Mike Frysinger schrieb: On Friday, September 16, 2011 04:28:24 Stratos Psomadakis wrote: Is a x86/amd64/x32 multilib profile just going to provide toolchain support for x32 binaries (like x86 in a x86/amd64 multilib profile

[gentoo-dev] x32 fun pants

2011-09-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
ive converted my system over to x86/amd64/x32 multilib for funs. but i can see how some people wont want all three all the time. so the question is how we want to make this available to users at the release/profile level. background: x32 is a new ABI that runs on 64bit x86_64 processors. see

Re: [gentoo-dev] x32 fun pants

2011-09-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday, September 15, 2011 16:12:00 Michał Górny wrote: On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 15:34:06 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: KEYWORDS wise, i'd like to avoid having to add x32 everywhere. instead, reusing amd64. only downside is the existing USE=amd64 behavior, but we can address that by making

Re: [gentoo-dev] udev and /usr

2011-09-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday, September 15, 2011 16:14:20 Michał Górny wrote: On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:03:53 +0200 Joost Roeleveld wrote: I'm trying to think of how best to avoid users who are not aware to get caught with non-booting systems. Guess we could try to detect a few common cases and die in

Re: [gentoo-dev] x32 fun pants

2011-09-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday, September 15, 2011 17:03:07 Michał Górny wrote: On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:33:48 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday, September 15, 2011 16:12:00 Michał Górny wrote: On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 15:34:06 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: KEYWORDS wise, i'd like to avoid having to add x32

Re: [gentoo-dev] new `usex` helper

2011-09-14 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 02:02, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2011, Mike Frysinger wrote: usex() { use $1 echo ${2:-yes} || echo ${3:-no} ; } You should omit the colons though. ${2-yes} and ${3-no} will allow for an explicit empty string as argument, whereas the :- variants won't

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH eutils] Introduce has_iuse() for IUSE checks.

2011-09-14 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 01:18, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:29:48 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: You don't do it by checking IUSE. You do it by having the ebuild define a variable like WANT_MONKEY_SUPPORT. it's a crap shoot.  as long as Michał's proposed func doesnt attempt

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fixing eclass code relying on ${IUSE} greps?

2011-09-14 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 06:38, Michał Górny wrote: As the 'has_iuse' thread worked out, right now PMS doesn't allow us to grep IUSE for random values during runtime. Thus, all eclasses using that to enable features per ebuild-defined IUSE are broken. this statement isnt exactly clear. no,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Fixing eclass code relying on ${IUSE} greps?

2011-09-14 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 16:03, Michał Górny wrote: Well, the other thing is IUSE=static-libs. I don't like it either but this is probably a bigger case than the other. The main resolution as I see it, is to simply drop IUSE=static-libs from a lot of ebuilds where static libs aren't actually

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-analyzer/wireshark: wireshark-1.6.2.ebuild ChangeLog wireshark-1.4.9.ebuild wireshark-1.4.7.ebuild wireshark-1.6.0_rc1.ebuild wiresha

2011-09-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 06:24:51 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 11:53:28 +0200 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: Il giorno mar, 13/09/2011 alle 10.28 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh ha scritto: In that case blocking just old versions is wrong, since if your installed version is broken

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-analyzer/wireshark: wireshark-1.6.2.ebuild ChangeLog wireshark-1.4.9.ebuild wireshark-1.4.7.ebuild wireshark-1.6.0_rc1.ebuild wiresha

2011-09-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 05:53:28 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: Il giorno mar, 13/09/2011 alle 10.28 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh ha scritto: (Incidentally, there's a bug in libtool that causes it to randomly link to stuff on / if you try to create an executable that links to both a built

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH eutils] Introduce has_iuse() for IUSE checks.

2011-09-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 06:46:33 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:50:30 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: Are you sure this is defined behaviour? IUSE is a fancy merged variable for eclasses, and I don't think we guarantee that the value visible to the ebuild at any

[gentoo-dev] new `usex` helper

2011-09-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
i keep writing little helpers like this in ebuilds: usex() { use $1 echo ${2:-yes} || echo ${3:-no} ; } this is so i can do: export some_var=$(usex some_flag) and get it set to yes or no or if i want something a little different, i can do: export some_var=$(usex some_flag true

Re: [gentoo-dev] new `usex` helper

2011-09-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 19:08:09 Brian Harring wrote: Making it overridable seems wiser- usex() { local flag=$1 local tval=${2-yes} local fval=${3-no} if use $flag; then echo ${tval} else echo ${fval} fi } i dont

Re: [gentoo-dev] new `usex` helper

2011-09-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 22:02:28 Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 17:56 Tue 13 Sep , Mike Frysinger wrote: useful enough for EAPI ? or should i just stick it into eutils.eclass ? OR BOTH !? I prefer to avoid EAPI whenever possible, as it just makes things slower and more complex

Re: [gentoo-dev] multilib setup

2011-09-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday, September 12, 2011 15:19:29 Nathan Phillip Brink wrote: On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 03:55:49PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: as for no-multilib systems, lib64 will be the same, and lib will be symlinked to lib64. this will be easier i think to share files between multilib and non

Re: [gentoo-dev] punt app-arch/cpio from system

2011-09-11 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, September 09, 2011 14:47:56 Mike Frysinger wrote: anyone have a good reason for keeping cpio around in the system profile ? moved to the bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/382633 any other issues should get posted to the bug -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

[gentoo-dev] multilib setup

2011-09-11 Thread Mike Frysinger
i dont care what the FHS has to say on the topic, so i havent bothered looking. below is documentation on the current system, and where i plan on taking things in the future. note that this only applies to amd64, ppc64, sparc64, and s390x systems where people think in terms of 32bit and 64bit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: multilib setup

2011-09-11 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday, September 11, 2011 19:10:26 Duncan wrote: But somehow, it never happened, and over time, as 64-bit became common and pretty much everything (at least everything freedomware) was ported and the existing setup worked better and better, the pressure to leave what was now working

[gentoo-dev] punt app-arch/cpio from system

2011-09-09 Thread Mike Frysinger
anyone have a good reason for keeping cpio around in the system profile ? -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

[gentoo-dev] Re: Committing packages with unfetchable sources [sys-devel/gdb-7.3.1]

2011-09-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday, September 07, 2011 03:20:01 Tomáš Chvátal wrote: please stop committing packages that is not possible to fetch right away. You can pick from three options: a) stop using mirrors://gentoo/ and put it on dev.gentoo.org to your public_html like most of us do b) mask the package

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday, September 07, 2011 05:27:05 Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:17:21 +0300 Alexey Shvetsov wrote: Moving things as openrc to /usr/libexec will effectevely barake old systems with separtae / and /usr. So it isnt good idea Old systems should migrate to initramfs, like

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday, September 08, 2011 18:15:21 Joshua Kinard wrote: On 09/08/2011 16:02, Eray Aslan wrote: Seperate /usr without initramfs used to work. Now it doesn't. What you are proposing is going to make it well neigh impossible to correct later on. We could have done a proper fix instead

Re: [gentoo-dev] Fwd: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for items for September 13 council meeting

2011-09-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday, September 08, 2011 14:10:23 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: 2011-09-08 19:03:56 Thomas Sachau napisał(a): Tomáš Chvátal schrieb: Start collecting ideas for EAPI5. 2) USE-flag based support to install for different slots (e.g. python, ruby or php) The

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday, September 06, 2011 14:46:06 William Hubbs wrote: we just got the following bug report for openrc today [1]. On a gentoo 64 bit system, /lib is a symbolic link to /lib64, and this causes breakage in openrc. that specific report sounds like using /run would fix things ? as for the

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday, September 06, 2011 17:58:12 Olivier Crête wrote: On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 16:45 -0500, William Hubbs wrote: On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 05:21:40PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday, September 06, 2011 14:46:06 William Hubbs wrote: The simplest fix for this would be for us

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: using /libexec

2011-09-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday, September 06, 2011 17:53:37 William Hubbs wrote: On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 04:45:43PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 05:21:40PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday, September 06, 2011 14:46:06 William Hubbs wrote: we just got the following bug report

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.14 and changes in rpc support (libtirpc)

2011-08-31 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday, June 11, 2011 16:11:35 Mike Frysinger wrote: historically, glibc provided all the ugly rpc support (while not nearly as relevant today, it still is used by way of nfs support). the glibc maintainers have opted to stop supporting this. at first they declined to accept new

Re: [gentoo-dev] [WTH] bash-completion useflag

2011-08-31 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday, August 31, 2011 16:22:28 Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 22:14:08 +0200 Tomáš Chvátal wrote: what is the purpose of this fancy useflag, it controlls install of at best one or more small sh scripts. As we do not bother with the logrotate useflag this thing should fall

Re: [gentoo-dev] [WTH] bash-completion useflag

2011-08-31 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday, August 31, 2011 18:16:29 Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Wed, 31 Aug 2011, Mike Frysinger wrote: installing the files unconditionally does fall into the logrotate/xinetd category, so it should get punted. but people should not end up with the depends installed all the time

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Implicit system dependencies

2011-08-28 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday, August 28, 2011 14:38:31 Michael wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: like Nathan said, only if the package directly uses/links against the X11 API/libs in question. if the package only uses gtk+ funcs, then it should not be declaring a dependency on the X11 libs. Just to confirm

Re: [gentoo-dev] Implicit system dependencies

2011-08-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday, August 22, 2011 15:21:23 Michael wrote: I wrote a script to search for discrepancies between linked libraries and what's defined in (R)DEPEND, with the intention of improving QA for minimal package installs. The devmanual seems to suggest that it's a bad thing for packages to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Implicit system dependencies

2011-08-23 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday, August 23, 2011 13:53:26 Michael wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday, August 22, 2011 15:21:23 Michael wrote: I wrote a script to search for discrepancies between linked libraries and what's defined in (R)DEPEND, with the intention of improving QA for minimal package

[gentoo-dev] eclass docs now support @AUTHOR

2011-08-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
with many people cramming this info into the eclass in many different (and broken ... i guess no one actually looks at the man page output to verify correctness) ways, i codified it with a new @AUTHORS block which is just like the @MAINTAINERS block. start using it :P. -mike signature.asc

[gentoo-dev] gcc: dropping cld workaround

2011-08-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
we added the cld workaround to gcc-4.3.0+ in early 2008 until packages sorted themselves out. i think they have at this point. in terms of kernels, we're talking about ones around 2.6.25 and earlier. i'll be dropping it from our gcc builds, so now is the time to make noise if this affects

Re: [gentoo-dev] gcc: dropping cld workaround

2011-08-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday, August 20, 2011 14:08:00 Andreas K. Huettel wrote: so... is this something where I should suddenly in a moment of clarity shout ah, that cld workaround ?! if you dont know immediately what i was referring to, then chances are you dont care :) otherwise, Matt provided good info

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: ban mirror://gentoo/ from ebuilds

2011-08-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday, August 18, 2011 04:50:23 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: Unfortunately, as long as the mirror://gentoo/ option is still maintained, we'll end up with situations like today's gnuconfig that couldn't be fetched, causing all ~arch users to see the same failure, because the distfile wasn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal: ban mirror://gentoo/ from ebuilds

2011-08-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:02:55 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: Il giorno gio, 18/08/2011 alle 10.54 -0400, Mike Frysinger ha scritto: you're understanding of this particular bug is completely off. i forgot to upload the pkg -- the only place it existed was on my desktop. it had nothing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Proposal: ban mirror://gentoo/ from ebuilds

2011-08-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday, August 18, 2011 12:13:44 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: Il giorno gio, 18/08/2011 alle 11.55 -0400, Mike Frysinger ha scritto: i think you've inverted this statement from what you meant. ~arch failing to fetch for more than a couple of hours was because i went to sleep. SRC_URI

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: splitting virtual/

2011-08-16 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday, August 15, 2011 17:33:24 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: I don't see a pressing need to split virtual/ yet :) +1 -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] subprofiles for ARM architecture

2011-08-14 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday, August 13, 2011 01:41:54 Arun Raghavan wrote: On 7 August 2011 17:20, Raúl Porcel wrote: With subprofiles we could keyword such packages, mask them globally on arm and unmask it on the subprofile of the subarchitecture that supports it. I think this makes sense. What would

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] subprofiles for ARM architecture

2011-08-14 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday, August 07, 2011 07:50:42 Raúl Porcel wrote: The problem is that during the history of the ARM architecture(according to the wikipedia, the architecture was introduced back in 1981) there has been some subarchitectures(the most available are armv4, armv4t, armv5t, armv6j and armv7-a)

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] /etc/resolv.conf symlink through net-dns/resolvconf-symlink

2011-08-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday, August 10, 2011 05:55:19 Michał Górny wrote: I'm attaching a net-dns/resolvconf-symlink ebuild which replaces /etc/resolv.conf with a symlink to a runtime-writable location when installed. That package could be added to PDEPEND of packages like net-misc/networkmanager or

Re: [gentoo-dev] new virtual/yacc

2011-08-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday, August 07, 2011 19:21:15 Mike Frysinger wrote: now that yacc is no longer part of system, and we have multiple providers of yacc, we need a virtual. so unless there are any complaints, i'll be adding virtual/yacc which has || ( sys-devel/bison dev-util/yacc ). implemented and added

Re: [gentoo-dev] new virtual/yacc

2011-08-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday, August 07, 2011 23:32:09 Matt Turner wrote: On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 11:21 PM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: now that yacc is no longer part of system, and we have multiple providers of yacc, we need a virtual. so unless there are any complaints, i'll be adding virtual

[gentoo-dev] new virtual/yacc

2011-08-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
now that yacc is no longer part of system, and we have multiple providers of yacc, we need a virtual. so unless there are any complaints, i'll be adding virtual/yacc which has || ( sys-devel/bison dev-util/yacc ). once that settles, i'll probably relocate bison to dev-util. -mike

Re: [gentoo-dev] Delivery reports about your e-mail

2011-08-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 07:43, Michał Górny wrote: A good moderation would be to require PGP signatures as well but I guess many devs still don't do that. while ideal, but would be an annoyingly high barrier for less up-to-speed peeps, or for people using webmail -mike

Re: [gentoo-dev] Voting on adding Leechcraft to the tree

2011-07-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 11:29, Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 19:05:54 +0400 Maxim Koltsov wrote: and 2) ask Gentoo developers and users: is it worth to be in tree? If there are 5 votes for Leechcraft and no unfixable complaints from other devs, i will start adding Leechcraft to tree.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Voting on adding Leechcraft to the tree

2011-07-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 12:10, Georg Rudoy wrote: Seems like the only issue that needs clarification now is the number of packages and the need in separate eclass. Actually, there are 32 ebuilds for now (and new will be added as new modules are written), and the eclass contains some common

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-misc/pimd RFC for new ebuild

2011-07-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 04:45, Kfir Lavi wrote: -e '/^CFLAGS/{s|[[:space:]]=| +=|g;s|-O2||g;s|-Werror||g}' \ no need for the [[:space:]] since the first = will get matched, and presumably it reads something like CFLAGS = .. the others could be done with the -r flag and: s|-(O2|Werror)||

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-misc/pimd RFC for new ebuild

2011-07-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 14:32, Kacper Kowalik wrote: W dniu 19.07.2011 19:31, Donnie Berkholz pisze: On 11:43 Sun 17 Jul     , Kacper Kowalik wrote: W dniu 17.07.2011 10:45, Kfir Lavi pisze: src_compile() {     emake CC=$(tc-getCC) || die } Some systems export CC as gcc -m64. I guess I'm

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-misc/pimd RFC for new ebuild

2011-07-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 15:51, Kacper Kowalik wrote: W dniu 19.07.2011 20:40, Mike Frysinger pisze: On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 14:32, Kacper Kowalik wrote: W dniu 19.07.2011 19:31, Donnie Berkholz pisze: On 11:43 Sun 17 Jul     , Kacper Kowalik wrote: W dniu 17.07.2011 10:45, Kfir Lavi pisze

[gentoo-dev] epatch now searches for relative patches

2011-07-19 Thread Mike Frysinger
if you specify a patch to `epatch` which does not exist based on the name alone, epatch will now search for it in EPATCH_SOURCE. this makes it useful to apply a set of patches which have a specific order but cannot use the existing lexicographical search. quick example is a debian patchset

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Disambiguation of hardened use flag and proposal for a new global flag pax_kernel

2011-07-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, July 15, 2011 02:44:45 Michał Górny wrote: On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:19:11 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: 3) Since a hardened kernel can be configure with various flavors of pax or grsec or selinux, there should be useflags to reflect userland needs to conform. There already

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Disambiguation of hardened use flag and proposal for a new global flag pax_kernel

2011-07-18 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, July 15, 2011 06:51:42 Anthony G. Basile wrote: ewarn We are disabling MPROTECT on the mono binary. sed '/exec/ i\paxctl -mr $r/@mono_runtime@' -i ${S}/runtime/mono-wrapper.in use: sed -i \ '/exec/ itype -p paxctl /dev/null paxctl -mr

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Disambiguation of hardened use flag and proposal for a new global flag pax_kernel

2011-07-14 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday, July 14, 2011 18:52:04 Anthony G. Basile wrote: 2) The choice of a hardened kernel is made by emergeing hardened-sources, configuring, compiling, booting. There is no use flag for this choice per se. That means that virtual/linux-sources would remove the condition RDEPEND:

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: bash arrays in OpenRC

2011-07-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday, July 13, 2011 13:36:29 Ed W wrote: On 12/07/2011 16:54, Mike Frysinger wrote: baselayout-1 vs openrc isnt the issue. it's bash array support vs flat strings. the former is supported in baselayout-1, and should be supported in openrc. William is talking about dropping

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: bash arrays in OpenRC

2011-07-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 07:12, Rich Freeman wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 1:09 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: it would be nice to come up with some level of automated conversion.  no matter how much we say read the docs, there will always be people who do not.  i think the reason the openrc

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Small patch to get rid of last hasq() in eclass/tests/

2011-07-11 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday, July 11, 2011 14:06:47 Samuli Suominen wrote: I've never used eclass/tests/ or are familiar with where it's used it doesnt get used directly anywhere. it's a handy dir for people to put testsuites of their eclasses and then run manually when they're changing the eclasses to make

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: bash arrays in OpenRC

2011-07-11 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday, July 11, 2011 20:38:49 William Hubbs wrote: this bug was filed against OpenRc today [1]. The issue was that the user was attempting to use bash arrays, which, as far as I knew are not supported in OpenRc. they've been supported to ease migration from existing configs. bash arrays

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: bash arrays in OpenRC

2011-07-11 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday, July 12, 2011 00:54:02 William Hubbs wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:27:59PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: i dont think we've had openrc in stable long enough to force people to migrate. so i'd keep the code putting along for now, and add a note to the feature removal schedule

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: new virtual for initscripts function

2011-07-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday, July 04, 2011 13:56:25 Fabian Groffen wrote: Just one little note, which is that Prefix is stuck with a modified version of baselayout-1. why ? -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-misc/aria2: aria2-1.12.0.ebuild ChangeLog

2011-07-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday, July 03, 2011 18:49:52 Paul Arthur wrote: On 2011-07-03, Jonathan Callen a...@gentoo.org wrote: Peter Volkov wrote: rm -rf ${D}/usr/share/doc/aria2 || die `rm -f` never fails -- if the target does not exist, then rm simply returns true. (The only reason it would fail

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-misc/aria2: aria2-1.12.0.ebuild ChangeLog

2011-07-05 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday, July 05, 2011 19:05:23 Francesco R wrote: rm -f chuck norris rm: cannot remove `Chuck Norris': Operation not contemplated chuck norris != Chuck Norris -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: gentoo base functions

2011-07-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:44, William Hubbs wrote: this is a followup thread to the one about openrc being mandatory on all gentoo systems. I started a new thread, because I want to figure out which functions located in /etc/init.d/functions.sh need to be available regardless of the init

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: should openrc be mandatory on all gentoo systems?

2011-06-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 08:58, Paul de Vrieze wrote: Why can't we just split up functions.sh into /lib/output.sh we're not changing the file name containing the init script independent (but often gentoo specific) output stuff, and have functions.sh source this. Output.sh would be provided by

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Add support for RDMA enabled devices in main tree

2011-06-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 14:40, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: Also i'm going to add USE_EXPAND for infiniband userspace drivers: libmlx4 libmthca libehca libcxgb3 should it be based on the hardware family rather than the lib name ? Any objections about moving this stuff to tree? i object to it

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Add support for RDMA enabled devices in main tree

2011-06-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 15:13, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: On Thursday 30 of June 2011 14:47:06 Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 14:40, Alexey Shvetsov wrote: Also i'm going to add USE_EXPAND for infiniband userspace drivers: libmlx4 libmthca libehca libcxgb3 use

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: should openrc be mandatory on all gentoo systems?

2011-06-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 17:14, Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:47:42 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 22:19:09 Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:46:13 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: Ok, the option that I'm looking at now is to set up openrc so

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: should openrc be mandatory on all gentoo systems?

2011-06-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 17:30, Michał Górny wrote: On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:16:14 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 17:14, Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 23:47:42 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 22:19:09 Michał Górny wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: should openrc be mandatory on all gentoo systems?

2011-06-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 01:48:16 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 00:04:57 Michał Górny wrote: Honestly, I think a better solution would be to provide a convenience function library, independent of OpenRC

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: should openrc be mandatory on all gentoo systems?

2011-06-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 02:12, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 01:48:16 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday, June 29, 2011 00:04:57 Michał Górny wrote

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: should openrc be mandatory on all gentoo systems?

2011-06-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 02:14, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 02:07:52 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: /etc/init.d/functions.sh has existed for the last decade, and was long ago decided as the canonical public entry point for scripts external to baselayout (as opposed to a path

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: should openrc be mandatory on all gentoo systems?

2011-06-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
2011/6/28 Olivier Crête: As long as we have Gentoo-style init scripts in the tree, we will need these functions to be available. So yes, they should probably be in a separate package from openrc itself to ease the transition to the bright systemd future. systemd is limited (acknowledged by

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