Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-02 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 01 Dec 2012 15:16:49 -0800 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: So Thomáš posted today [1] that the new LibreOffice 4 is going to _need_ an LDAP provider in the future because they are not going to keep it optional as it is now. Right now, the only provider we have in

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-02 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 02/12/2012 00:43, Michał Górny wrote: How about splitting the ebuild into separate library and server and fixing the deps? It would be cleaner for people, and we'd just release a news message that those who need an LDAP server, need to put it in their @world. How about no? Split packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-02 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 02 Dec 2012 07:58:29 -0800 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: On 02/12/2012 00:43, Michał Górny wrote: How about splitting the ebuild into separate library and server and fixing the deps? It would be cleaner for people, and we'd just release a news message that those

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-02 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 02/12/2012 08:20, Michał Górny wrote: For users? Since when a correctly split package is a pain for user? Funny I think you would have guessed... let's say, a Poppler split that every other update would fail in the middle leaving a system completely unable to start a PDF viewer without

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-02 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 02 Dec 2012 08:23:30 -0800 Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: On 02/12/2012 08:20, Michał Górny wrote: For users? Since when a correctly split package is a pain for user? Funny I think you would have guessed... let's say, a Poppler split that every other update would

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-02 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
2012/12/2 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org: And when was poppler split a library/server split? I think it was 2k8 or so, before the kde team took over its maintenance.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-02 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 02/12/2012 08:48, Michał Górny wrote: And when was poppler split a library/server split? Okay, listen, I tried to tell you this, before, a number of times: repeating your same line ad nauseam is _not_ going to convince me that you're right. When I'm telling you I don't like your idea, you

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-02 Thread Pacho Ramos
El dom, 02-12-2012 a las 07:58 -0800, Diego Elio Pettenò escribió: On 02/12/2012 00:43, Michał Górny wrote: How about splitting the ebuild into separate library and server and fixing the deps? It would be cleaner for people, and we'd just release a news message that those who need an LDAP

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-02 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 11:16:16PM +0100, Pacho Ramos wrote Maybe the easiest option would be to keep current defaults and simply include a news item when libreoffice starts to pull in openldap on a lot of systems remembering admins that they can safely enable minimal USE flag for openldap if

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-02 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 02/12/2012 15:34, Walter Dnes wrote: Howsabout following the same protocol as with CXX/NOCXX? In the past, portage would pick a default if neither was specified. You don't know what you're talking about I'm afraid. Before we had USE defaults (i.e. IUSE=+cxx) we had a nocxx (negative)

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-01 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
So Thomáš posted today [1] that the new LibreOffice 4 is going to _need_ an LDAP provider in the future because they are not going to keep it optional as it is now. Right now, the only provider we have in portage (as far as me and him can tell) is openldap (although mozldap also exists). This

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Defaulting desktop profiles to net-nds/openldap[minimal]

2012-12-01 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Diego Elio Pettenò schrieb: In the mean time, I would suggest that, since the desktop profiles already have USE=ldap enabled, we should default on the same profiles to net-nds/openldap minimal to make sure that the default desktop users don't get a copy of openldap (server) installed. I