Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-22 Thread Tim Harder
On 2015-07-18 15:01, Matthew Marchese wrote: I'd like to hear it all so please speak your mind. Looking forward to hearing from you. On another semi-related note, I've always thought it would be useful to extend repos.conf support to handle binary repos so one could use layman or equivalent

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-21 Thread Jason Zaman
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 03:05:04AM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:51:00 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2015-07-18, o godz. 12:01:48 Matthew Marchese maffblas...@gentoo.org napisał(a): I have recently pressed the reboot button on the ol' Installer project. I've

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-21 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hi, On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:52:07 +0400 Jason Zaman wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 03:05:04AM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: Maybe a bit off-topic, but occasionally I need a tool to fast install Gentoo and fine-tune it later. This happens quite often on a new job box, oh during visits where

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-20 Thread Luca Barbato
On 18/07/15 21:01, Matthew Marchese wrote: I'd like to hear it all so please speak your mind. Looking forward to hearing from you. The plan is good, having multiple backends is a boon since then you can have large install images and tiny install images. An installer is basically covering

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-20 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-07-18, o godz. 12:01:48 Matthew Marchese maffblas...@gentoo.org napisał(a): I have recently pressed the reboot button on the ol' Installer project. I've been able to talk to quite a few developers one-on-one via IRC concerning my plans. Most seem to be in support of Gentoo having a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-20 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: I personally don't think Gentoo needs installer as-is. However, I think we'd really benefit from having some kind of helper scripts / checklist of tasks to be done prior to/after install. I think something that would be

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-20 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 10:51:00 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2015-07-18, o godz. 12:01:48 Matthew Marchese maffblas...@gentoo.org napisał(a): I have recently pressed the reboot button on the ol' Installer project. I've been able to talk to quite a few developers one-on-one via IRC

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-20 Thread Sebastian Pipping
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20.07.2015 10:51, Michał Górny wrote: [..] I think we'd really benefit from having some kind of helper scripts / checklist of tasks to be done prior to/after install. For example, you'd run 'check-my-install' script and it'd tell you what you

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-19 Thread Matthew Marchese
NP, You bring about some good points. stager still start with command-line interface that can either pass values via command-line options + arguments or via 'profiles' which are .ini formatted text files with values predefined. The name 'profile' is subject to change because I don't want to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-19 Thread wireless
On 07/18/2015 11:30 PM, J.Rutkowski wrote: On Sat, Jul 18, 2015, at 07:06 PM, hasufell wrote: The handbook consists of different sections. Installation is only one of them. An installer would just replace that part, not the others. Agreed. I think that any proposed or actual installer

[gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-18 Thread Matthew Marchese
Hello all, I have recently pressed the reboot button on the ol' Installer project. I've been able to talk to quite a few developers one-on-one via IRC concerning my plans. Most seem to be in support of Gentoo having a official installer (the biggest concern is appears to be how things will be

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-18 Thread NP-Hardass
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 12:01:48 -0700 Matthew Marchese maffblas...@gentoo.org wrote: Hello all, I have recently pressed the reboot button on the ol' Installer project. I've been able to talk to quite a few developers one-on-one via IRC

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-18 Thread J.Rutkowski
On Sat, Jul 18, 2015, at 07:06 PM, hasufell wrote: The handbook consists of different sections. Installation is only one of them. An installer would just replace that part, not the others. Agreed. I think that any proposed or actual installer shouldn't replace any part of the handbook (and

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-18 Thread hasufell
On 07/18/2015 09:36 PM, NP-Hardass wrote: On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 12:01:48 -0700 Matthew Marchese maffblas...@gentoo.org wrote: Hello all, I have recently pressed the reboot button on the ol' Installer project. I've been able to talk to quite a few developers one-on-one via IRC concerning my

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-18 Thread Patrice Clement
Saturday 18 Jul 2015 15:36:01, NP-Hardass wrote : On Sat, 18 Jul 2015 12:01:48 -0700 Matthew Marchese maffblas...@gentoo.org wrote: Hello all, I have recently pressed the reboot button on the ol' Installer project. I've been able to talk to quite a few developers one-on-one via IRC

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Rebooting the Installer Project

2015-07-18 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Sunday 19 July 2015 02:05:21 Patrice Clement wrote: Saturday 18 Jul 2015 15:36:01, NP-Hardass wrote : I fancy your idea a lot. We ought to do it for complete newbies who are new to Gentoo but would like to give the distribution a shot nonetheless. I fondly remember my first attempt who took