Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-11-04 Thread Zac Medico
On 11/03/2012 09:29 PM, Ben de Groot wrote: On 4 November 2012 08:28, Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: 03.11.12 09:04, Ben de Groot написав(ла): I think we need to come up with a better policy regarding elog messages, which would improve the signal to noise ratio. As of EAPI=4 (i

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-11-03 Thread Ben de Groot
On 31 October 2012 23:17, Chris Reffett creff...@gentoo.org wrote: Basically, I would rather the user get too many elog messages than not enough, since I feel that a lot of people skip over them anyway and so the only display once method makes it far too easy for important messages to get lost

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-11-03 Thread Jauhien Piatlicki
03.11.12 09:04, Ben de Groot написав(ла): On 31 October 2012 23:17, Chris Reffett creff...@gentoo.org wrote: Basically, I would rather the user get too many elog messages than not enough, since I feel that a lot of people skip over them anyway and so the only display once method makes it far

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-11-03 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/11/12 08:19 PM, Jauhien Piatlicki wrote: 03.11.12 09:04, Ben de Groot написав(ла): On 31 October 2012 23:17, Chris Reffett creff...@gentoo.org wrote: Basically, I would rather the user get too many elog messages than not enough, since I

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-11-03 Thread Ben de Groot
On 4 November 2012 08:28, Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: 03.11.12 09:04, Ben de Groot написав(ла): I think we need to come up with a better policy regarding elog messages, which would improve the signal to noise ratio. As of EAPI=4 (i think? maybe 3?) ebuild authors can use a simple

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-11-01 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: Though if you don't know these kinds of basics, I'm not sure you should be doing *any* (semi- or not) automated bug filing. What if you don't have the privilege to assign bugs, but are willing to do the work of filing the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-11-01 Thread Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/01/2012 03:59 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: Though if you don't know these kinds of basics, I'm not sure you should be doing *any* (semi- or not) automated bug filing. What

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-11-01 Thread Markos Chandras
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: Though if you don't know these kinds of basics, I'm not sure you should be doing *any* (semi- or not) automated bug filing. What if you don't have the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-11-01 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:59:09 +0100 Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: What if you don't have the privilege to assign bugs, but are willing to do the work of filing the bugs? Yeah, that kind of sucks. Perhaps we should extend the privilege a little more often? In this case no prior

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-10-31 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
Simply look at the metadata.xml files which can be found in each package directory. Though if you don't know these kinds of basics, I'm not sure you should be doing *any* (semi- or not) automated bug filing. Cheers, Dirkjan On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Marco Poletti poletti.ma...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-10-31 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
2012/10/31 Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org: That's rather unsurprising... If you're going to file bugs in a semi-automated manner, might as well try to assign to the correct maintainer? Yep he should've assign them, but anyway the annoying elog messages are an issue. And quite few packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-10-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: If you're going to file bugs in a semi-automated manner, might as well try to assign to the correct maintainer? How about a policy - no automated bugs may be logged to the bug wranglers without their prior approval/review.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-10-31 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
The php herd is the maintainer, so you should php-b...@gentoo.org (the herd-to-email mapping can probably be found elsewhere). Still, please get more of a feeling for how the Portage tree is put together before doing more automated bug filing, please. Cheers, Dirkjan On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-10-31 Thread lists
Maybe you should remember that non-devs simply /aren't allowed/ to assign bugs correctly... And if you look closer into these bugs, you might discover that jer instructed this guy to file separate bugs. (see #440178) aranea signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-10-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:18 AM, li...@aixah.de wrote: Maybe you should remember that non-devs simply /aren't allowed/ to assign bugs correctly... And if you look closer into these bugs, you might discover that jer instructed this guy to file separate bugs. (see #440178) Fair points, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-10-31 Thread Chris Reffett
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/31/2012 08:52 AM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: 2012/10/31 Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org: That's rather unsurprising... If you're going to file bugs in a semi-automated manner, might as well try to assign to the correct maintainer? Yep he

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-10-31 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:49:37 +0100 Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: Though if you don't know these kinds of basics, I'm not sure you should be doing *any* (semi- or not) automated bug filing. What if you don't have the privilege to assign bugs, but are willing to do the work of filing

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-10-31 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 10/31/2012 10:05 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:18 AM, li...@aixah.de wrote: Maybe you should remember that non-devs simply /aren't allowed/ to assign bugs correctly... And if you look closer into these bugs, you might discover that jer instructed this guy to file

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-10-31 Thread Cyprien Nicolas
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 02:18:42pm +0100, li...@aixah.de wrote: maybe you should remember that non-devs simply /aren't allowed/ to assign bugs correctly... That is not correct. I am no dev and i do have edit-bugs privileges. They were given to me on request by a developer from a project i am

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-10-31 Thread Amadeusz Żołnowski
Quoting Chris Reffett (2012-10-31 16:17:20) Yep he should've assign them, but anyway the annoying elog messages are an issue. And quite few packages suffer from it :-) It would actually be hard to find useful message which place is in elog showing up every install. Why not move such thing on

Re: [gentoo-dev] [warning] the bug queue has 100 bugs

2012-10-31 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:54 AM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman d...@gentoo.org wrote: If you're going to file bugs in a semi-automated manner, might as well try to assign to the correct maintainer? How about a policy - no automated bugs