Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-25 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 25-03-2013 a las 01:39 +, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto escribió: [...] In the meantime, anyone interested in new stages / isos, are free and welcome to test the ones built on my own server (using the official specs)[1]. Why not point officially to your ISOs then? They look official

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-25 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Sun, 24 Mar 2013, Alexander Berntsen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 24/03/13 21:17, Ben Kohler wrote: I strongly believe it's important that we have an official install medium [that] the official installation handbook is based [on]. I agree. Let's

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-25 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 25/03/13 10:32, Tobias Klausmann wrote: Are you saying you want to give [off-mainstream architectures] the boot? No. SysRescueCD does not exist for the fringe architectures. Then make it. That way we will have a reliable install medium for

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-25 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Mon, 25 Mar 2013, Alexander Berntsen wrote: SysRescueCD does not exist for the fringe architectures. Then make it. That way we will have a reliable install medium for all architectures, an as an added bonus we will have helped a different free software project become more useful to

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-25 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 25/03/13 13:20, Tobias Klausmann wrote: On Mon, 25 Mar 2013, Alexander Berntsen wrote: SysRescueCD does not exist for the fringe architectures. Then make it. That way we will have a reliable install medium for all architectures, an as an

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-25 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Mon, 25 Mar 2013, Alexander Berntsen wrote: I don't think it seems easy. But nor does devoting time to a CD that will only serve the purpose of installing Gentoo on these architectures. Additionally, that strikes me as seriously pointless if contributing to SysRescCd is a real

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Tobias Klausmann klaus...@gentoo.org wrote: Thing is that SRCD does a lot more things than our mini ISO does. As a result, keeping it going on half a dozen architectures is more work than maintaining our arguably very simple images. There is a reason why we

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-25 Thread Ben Kohler
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: Tend to agree. To install Gentoo you really just need a shell, the ability to partition and create filesystems, some basic networking (even that is somewhat optional), and a text editor. Sure, a browser and such is a

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-25 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, 23 Mar 2013, Pacho Ramos wrote: Today I tried to boot latest install ISO (from January) and hit this bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455924 This breaks a lot of hardware requiring

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-24 Thread Philip Webb
130324 Ben de Groot wrote: On 24 March 2013 09:17, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Andreas K. Huettel wrote: Seriously. SystemRescueCD is more or less exactly what we would need. I must confess, I have not used the official Gentoo ISOs in ages. I use the SystemRescueCD from a USB stick all

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-24 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 24/03/13 06:30, Ben de Groot wrote: On 24 March 2013 09:17, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Andreas K. Huettel wrote: Am Samstag, 23. März 2013, 21:40:16 schrieb Markos Chandras: Why not officially recommend SystemRescueCD instead? Looks really bad to recommend another installation

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-24 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 04:11:14PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/23/2013 02:50 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El sáb, 23-03-2013 a las 14:40 -0400, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-24 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Making an install ISO is as pointless as writing a CMS for Gentoo.org... Gentoo should only bother if it is really necessary. ZSH-related bugs fixed ? Link SystemRescueCD : Link something else - -- Alexander alexan...@plaimi.net

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-24 Thread Ben Kohler
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Alexander Berntsen alexan...@plaimi.netwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Making an install ISO is as pointless as writing a CMS for Gentoo.org... Gentoo should only bother if it is really necessary. ZSH-related bugs fixed ? Link

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-24 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 24/03/13 20:32, Ben Kohler wrote: I really feel like we should still have an official minimal iso Feelings do not matter. - -- Alexander alexan...@plaimi.net http://plaimi.net/~alexander -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-24 Thread Ben Kohler
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Alexander Berntsen alexan...@plaimi.netwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 24/03/13 20:32, Ben Kohler wrote: I really feel like we should still have an official minimal iso Feelings do not matter. - -- Alexander As a very active

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-24 Thread Ben Kohler
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Alexander Berntsen alexan...@plaimi.netwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 24/03/13 20:32, Ben Kohler wrote: I really feel like we should still have an official minimal iso Feelings do not matter. - -- Alexander Just to add a bit

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-24 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 24/03/13 21:17, Ben Kohler wrote: I strongly believe it's important that we have an official install medium [that] the official installation handbook is based [on]. I agree. Let's make it SystemRescueCd. - -- Alexander alexan...@plaimi.net

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-24 Thread W. Trevor King
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 09:55:05PM +0100, Alexander Berntsen wrote: On 24/03/13 21:17, Ben Kohler wrote: I strongly believe it's important that we have an official install medium [that] the official installation handbook is based [on]. I agree. Let's make it SystemRescueCd. This is not my

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-24 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
On Sat, 23 Mar 2013, Pacho Ramos wrote: Today I tried to boot latest install ISO (from January) and hit this bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455924 This breaks a lot of hardware requiring firmwares (like some wireless drivers) Could a new ISO set be released? I'm working on it.

[gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
Today I tried to boot latest install ISO (from January) and hit this bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455924 This breaks a lot of hardware requiring firmwares (like some wireless drivers) Could a new ISO set be released? Thanks signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/23/2013 02:06 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: Today I tried to boot latest install ISO (from January) and hit this bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455924 This breaks a lot of hardware requiring firmwares (like some wireless drivers)

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Markos Chandras
On 23 March 2013 18:06, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: Today I tried to boot latest install ISO (from January) and hit this bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455924 This breaks a lot of hardware requiring firmwares (like some wireless drivers) Could a new ISO set be

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 23-03-2013 a las 14:40 -0400, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/23/2013 02:06 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: Today I tried to boot latest install ISO (from January) and hit this bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455924

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/23/2013 02:50 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El sáb, 23-03-2013 a las 14:40 -0400, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/23/2013 02:06 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: Today I tried to boot latest install ISO

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Michael Orlitzky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/23/2013 02:50 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El sáb, 23-03-2013 a las 14:40 -0400, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/23/2013 02:06 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: Today I tried to boot latest install ISO

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag, 23. März 2013, 21:11:14 schrieb Michael Orlitzky: The installation media has been totally useless on a large bit of hardware for over three months. We should just suggest SystemRescueCD if no one can be bothered to make Gentoo installable. While that sounds harsh, it also sounds

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Markos Chandras
On 23 March 2013 20:28, Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: Am Samstag, 23. März 2013, 21:11:14 schrieb Michael Orlitzky: The installation media has been totally useless on a large bit of hardware for over three months. We should just suggest SystemRescueCD if no one can be

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 23-03-2013 a las 21:28 +0100, Andreas K. Huettel escribió: Am Samstag, 23. März 2013, 21:11:14 schrieb Michael Orlitzky: The installation media has been totally useless on a large bit of hardware for over three months. We should just suggest SystemRescueCD if no one can be

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 06:42:14PM +, Markos Chandras wrote: I do have a feeling that the quality of our ISOs has degraded over the last year. I've seen too many bugs about our installation media. In the past I asked what it takes to become part of the releng team and I was told that the

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Samstag, 23. März 2013, 21:40:16 schrieb Markos Chandras: Why not officially recommend SystemRescueCD instead? Looks really bad to recommend another installation media (even if it is based on Gentoo) to people who want to install our distro. I'd rather Gentoo recommended the live DVDs

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Dale
Andreas K. Huettel wrote: Am Samstag, 23. März 2013, 21:40:16 schrieb Markos Chandras: Why not officially recommend SystemRescueCD instead? Looks really bad to recommend another installation media (even if it is based on Gentoo) to people who want to install our distro. I'd rather Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-23 Thread Ben de Groot
On 24 March 2013 09:17, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Andreas K. Huettel wrote: Am Samstag, 23. März 2013, 21:40:16 schrieb Markos Chandras: Why not officially recommend SystemRescueCD instead? Looks really bad to recommend another installation media (even if it is based on Gentoo) to