Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Setting default HOME_MODE in /etc/login.defs

2024-02-13 Thread Daniel Simionato
Hi, the upstream PR was closed, this was the answer: > No - distros like debian may get caught off guard. There's nothing wrong with > downstreams patching their values in their deltas. We do not lightly make > changes which change defaults.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Setting default HOME_MODE in /etc/login.defs

2024-02-11 Thread Arsen Arsenović
Daniel Simionato writes: > Hello, > I'd like to start a discussion regarding setting HOME_MODE by default in > the /etc/login.defs file (owned by sys-apps/shadow package). > > Upstream keeps HOME_MODE commented: >

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Setting default HOME_MODE in /etc/login.defs

2024-02-11 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 2024-02-11 at 10:06 +, Sam James wrote: > Michael Orlitzky writes: > > > On Sat, 2024-02-10 at 17:57 +0100, Daniel Simionato wrote: > > > Hello, > > > I'd like to start a discussion regarding setting HOME_MODE by default in > > > the /etc/login.defs file (owned by sys-apps/shadow

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Setting default HOME_MODE in /etc/login.defs

2024-02-11 Thread Daniel Simionato
The only previous upstream discussion I was able to find was this on the pkg-shadow-devel: https://marc.info/?l=pkg-shadow-devel=167120074926229=2( (I don't think the unprivileged container limitation still applies, or at least it doesn't on my user with a 700 /home) I can see the argument for

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Setting default HOME_MODE in /etc/login.defs

2024-02-11 Thread Eray Aslan
On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 10:10:13AM +, Sam James wrote: > I'm in favour, although I'd be curious as to why upstream shadow don't > just set it. It would be interesting to see if the discussion already > happened there at some point (surely it has?) and find out their > reasoning. (But that's

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Setting default HOME_MODE in /etc/login.defs

2024-02-11 Thread Sam James
Daniel Simionato writes: > Hello, > I'd like to start a discussion regarding setting HOME_MODE by default in the > /etc/login.defs file (owned by > sys-apps/shadow package). > > Upstream keeps HOME_MODE commented: >

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Setting default HOME_MODE in /etc/login.defs

2024-02-11 Thread Sam James
Michael Orlitzky writes: > On Sat, 2024-02-10 at 17:57 +0100, Daniel Simionato wrote: >> Hello, >> I'd like to start a discussion regarding setting HOME_MODE by default in >> the /etc/login.defs file (owned by sys-apps/shadow package). >> >> Upstream keeps HOME_MODE commented: >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Setting default HOME_MODE in /etc/login.defs

2024-02-11 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Sun, 2024-02-11 at 09:00 +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 10 Feb 2024, Daniel Simionato wrote: > > >  I'd like to start a discussion regarding setting HOME_MODE by default in > > the /etc/login.defs file (owned by sys-apps/shadow package). > > > Upstream keeps HOME_MODE

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Setting default HOME_MODE in /etc/login.defs

2024-02-11 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Sat, 10 Feb 2024, Daniel Simionato wrote: > I'd like to start a discussion regarding setting HOME_MODE by default in > the /etc/login.defs file (owned by sys-apps/shadow package). > Upstream keeps HOME_MODE commented: >

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Setting default HOME_MODE in /etc/login.defs

2024-02-10 Thread Alex Boag-Munroe
On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 at 02:12, Eli Schwartz wrote: > - someone who added another account to their user group probably did so > with the expectation that they'd be sharing files with that other > account, and 700 mode in particular feels like going against that This change of default would

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Setting default HOME_MODE in /etc/login.defs

2024-02-10 Thread Eli Schwartz
On 2/10/24 11:57 AM, Daniel Simionato wrote: > Hello, > I'd like to start a discussion regarding setting HOME_MODE by default in > the /etc/login.defs file (owned by sys-apps/shadow package). > > Upstream keeps HOME_MODE commented: >

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Setting default HOME_MODE in /etc/login.defs

2024-02-10 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Sat, 2024-02-10 at 17:57 +0100, Daniel Simionato wrote: > Hello, > I'd like to start a discussion regarding setting HOME_MODE by default in > the /etc/login.defs file (owned by sys-apps/shadow package). > > Upstream keeps HOME_MODE commented: >

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Setting default HOME_MODE in /etc/login.defs

2024-02-10 Thread Alex Boag-Munroe
On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 at 23:52, John Helmert III wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 05:57:08PM +0100, Daniel Simionato wrote: > > Hello, > > I'd like to start a discussion regarding setting HOME_MODE by default in > > the /etc/login.defs file (owned by sys-apps/shadow package). > > > > Upstream

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Setting default HOME_MODE in /etc/login.defs

2024-02-10 Thread John Helmert III
On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 05:57:08PM +0100, Daniel Simionato wrote: > Hello, > I'd like to start a discussion regarding setting HOME_MODE by default in > the /etc/login.defs file (owned by sys-apps/shadow package). > > Upstream keeps HOME_MODE commented: >

[gentoo-dev] RFC: Setting default HOME_MODE in /etc/login.defs

2024-02-10 Thread Daniel Simionato
Hello, I'd like to start a discussion regarding setting HOME_MODE by default in the /etc/login.defs file (owned by sys-apps/shadow package). Upstream keeps HOME_MODE commented: https://github.com/shadow-maint/shadow/blob/3e59e9613ec40c51c19c7bb5c28468e33a4529d5/etc/login.defs#L207 HOME_MODE