[gentoo-dev] Re: Transitioning from #!/sbin/runscript to,#!/sbin/openrc-run

2016-05-18 Thread Austin English
On 05/03/2016 11:27 PM, Austin English wrote: > Hi there, > > I've been working on the transition from #!/sbin/runscript to > #!/sbin/openrc-run [1], by starting on the maintainer-needed packages. > That's done (aside from some stabilizations needed, but I'll deal with that > latter). The trouble

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Transitioning from #!/sbin/runscript to,#!/sbin/openrc-run

2016-05-05 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Donnerstag, 5. Mai 2016, 21:40:00 schrieb Patrick Lauer: > > So how many custom init scripts have you deployed that you can't fix > > with a > > single Rex command? > > I like the naive assumption that I only have one central deployment :) > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Transitioning from #!/sbin/runscript to,#!/sbin/openrc-run

2016-05-05 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 05/05/2016 08:59 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 5. Mai 2016, 09:53:10 schrieb Patrick Lauer: > > On 05/05/2016 09:44 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > >> On 05/05/16 08:32, Patrick Lauer wrote: > >>> To summarize: Lots of churn, no visible benefit, except that some OCD > >>> people

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Transitioning from #!/sbin/runscript to,#!/sbin/openrc-run

2016-05-05 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Donnerstag, 5. Mai 2016, 09:53:10 schrieb Patrick Lauer: > On 05/05/2016 09:44 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > > On 05/05/16 08:32, Patrick Lauer wrote: > >> To summarize: Lots of churn, no visible benefit, except that some OCD > >> people could feel

[gentoo-dev] Re: Transitioning from #!/sbin/runscript to,#!/sbin/openrc-run

2016-05-05 Thread Duncan
Patrick Lauer posted on Thu, 05 May 2016 09:32:01 +0200 as excerpted: > So you're saying that a Gentoo-specific change in Gentoo happens because > the Gentoo maintainer doesn't care about Gentoo? ;) I'm saying that big-picture, there's more than one distro, and once a particular package

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Transitioning from #!/sbin/runscript to,#!/sbin/openrc-run

2016-05-05 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 05/05/16 08:53, Patrick Lauer wrote: > > This ignores the externalized cost for potentially thousands of users > that have to fix stuff because it was actively broken. > To quote an old proverb .. "you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs" .. if you wish me to explain, I'll do it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Transitioning from #!/sbin/runscript to,#!/sbin/openrc-run

2016-05-05 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 05/05/2016 09:44 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > On 05/05/16 08:32, Patrick Lauer wrote: >> To summarize: Lots of churn, no visible benefit, except that some OCD >> people could feel better: except that we can't actually fix the core >> 'issue' without making lots of other people very sad. >> >> >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Transitioning from #!/sbin/runscript to,#!/sbin/openrc-run

2016-05-05 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 05/05/16 08:32, Patrick Lauer wrote: > To summarize: Lots of churn, no visible benefit, except that some OCD > people could feel better: except that we can't actually fix the core > 'issue' without making lots of other people very sad. > > > Y'all have too much free time ... ;) > I'm inclined

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Transitioning from #!/sbin/runscript to,#!/sbin/openrc-run

2016-05-05 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 05/05/2016 09:17 AM, Duncan wrote: > Patrick Lauer posted on Thu, 05 May 2016 07:13:00 +0200 as excerpted: > >> So again, because I feel like either I'm too stupid to understand this, >> or too smart to let such an obviously bad idea continue: >> >> What problem is being solved here? > For one

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Transitioning from #!/sbin/runscript to,#!/sbin/openrc-run

2016-05-05 Thread M. J. Everitt
On 05/05/16 08:17, Duncan wrote: > Patrick Lauer posted on Thu, 05 May 2016 07:13:00 +0200 as excerpted: > >> So again, because I feel like either I'm too stupid to understand this, >> or too smart to let such an obviously bad idea continue: >> >> What problem is being solved here? > For one

[gentoo-dev] Re: Transitioning from #!/sbin/runscript to,#!/sbin/openrc-run

2016-05-05 Thread Duncan
Patrick Lauer posted on Thu, 05 May 2016 07:13:00 +0200 as excerpted: > So again, because I feel like either I'm too stupid to understand this, > or too smart to let such an obviously bad idea continue: > > What problem is being solved here? For one thing, the namespace issue of runscript being

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Transitioning from #!/sbin/runscript to,#!/sbin/openrc-run

2016-05-04 Thread Manuel RĂ¼ger
On 04.05.2016 11:19, Duncan wrote: > Ulrich Mueller posted on Wed, 04 May 2016 10:00:05 +0200 as excerpted: > >>> On Wed, 4 May 2016, Austin English wrote: >> Your list of affected packages obtained with "git grep" in the Portage tree will not be complete, since the command won't

[gentoo-dev] Re: Transitioning from #!/sbin/runscript to,#!/sbin/openrc-run

2016-05-04 Thread Duncan
Ulrich Mueller posted on Wed, 04 May 2016 10:00:05 +0200 as excerpted: >> On Wed, 4 May 2016, Austin English wrote: > >>> Your list of affected packages obtained with "git grep" in the Portage >>> tree will not be complete, since the command won't catch any init >>> scripts installed from