Thanks for all the feedback, everyone.
> Markus Hauschild:
> If you really want to test ~arch packets you don't necessarily need
> ~arch stages to download, you can just switch your Installation to
> ~arch and then file bugs etc.
That's what we did, and what generated the ~tarball suggestion.
>
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 20:28 -0800, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
Those few times I've installed a new box from the LiveCD/DVD, I've
always done it networkless anyhow. That way, I get the box on the air
in a short time and *then* I can indulge my inner ricer. :)
Actuall
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 23:50 +0100, Peter Weber wrote:
> Hours for, mhhh, five lines of code?
Five lines of code, gathering the distfiles together, and lots and lots
of testing.
Seriously, buddy. Do me a favor and quit responding. You've shown that
you don't really have a clue what's involved in
Hours for, mhhh, five lines of code?
...think yourself about.
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 14:35 -0800, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 22:47 +0100, Peter Weber wrote:
> > A other good solution would be merging Universal and Minimal-CD
> > togehter, so we offer only a smaller Universal-C
On Feb 4, 2008 11:36 PM, Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I'd love a minimal + stage3 + portage-snapshot + stuff you really need
> > (kernel sources, grub, maybe a syslogger)
>
> You just described an Universal CD.
>
What I described wouldn't necessarily be a 700MB media.
Seems
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 22:49 +0100, Markus Hauschild wrote:
> On Feb 4, 2008 10:47 PM, Peter Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > The LiveDVD includes stages and a snapshot.
> >
> > Interesting and good, but the LiveDVD is, let us say the truth -
> > overkill.
> >
> > A other good solution would b
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 22:47 +0100, Peter Weber wrote:
> A other good solution would be merging Universal and Minimal-CD
> togehter, so we offer only a smaller Universal-CD (about 200-400 MB) and
> a complete LiveCD (about 700 MB).
Wow. I'm just not even going to respond to this one and just let
e
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 22:33 +0100, Markus Hauschild wrote:
> > That means less time taken and less stress for us. If you
> > don't like it, become a dev and volunteer for release engineering, and
> > build the
> > universal CDs yourself.
>
> Copy n pasteing a config that would be the Universal CD
On Feb 4, 2008 11:18 PM, Brent Baude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you feel so strongly about
> Gentoo and want to advocate for users, please join and begin to
> contribute to that extent. This is how the current team members got
> started.
Not to harm anyone, but why would one want to become a
Thanks for your answer. I respect this fully!
I just thought that this was a good chance for starting a discussion.
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 16:18 -0600, Brent Baude wrote:
> Peter and company,
>
> It is important for you to understand that we, releng, are in the
> process of 2008.0 right now.
> Anyone gave this any thought? There are still a LOT of dial-up users
> out here. People seem to forget that, especially the website with all
> the huge pages. My Space comes to mind on that.
Even users with high-speed connections want to stay independent and
free, relying on a network-connec
Peter and company,
It is important for you to understand that we, releng, are in the
process of 2008.0 right now. As such, it probably is not fair to
knowingly push our buttons given that we have entered the execution
phase of doing this work now. Gentoo folks, users and devs alike, felt
it
Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> Markus Hauschild wrote:
>> On Feb 4, 2008 10:47 PM, Peter Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The LiveDVD includes stages and a snapshot.
>>> Interesting and good, but the LiveDVD is, let us say the truth -
>>> overkill.
>>>
>>> A other good solution would be merging Unive
On Feb 4, 2008 10:58 PM, Andrew Gaffney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> That doesn't even make sense. A universal CD is nothing but a minimal plus
> some
> stuff. You can't merge them together, unless you're talking about getting rid
> of
> the minimal all together, and then that's even dumber.
>
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 15:58 -0600, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> That doesn't even make sense. A universal CD is nothing but a minimal plus
> some
> stuff. You can't merge them together, unless you're talking about getting rid
> of
> the minimal all together, and then that's even dumber.
>
> --
>
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 22:49 +0100, Markus Hauschild wrote:
> On Feb 4, 2008 10:47 PM, Peter Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > The LiveDVD includes stages and a snapshot.
> >
> > Interesting and good, but the LiveDVD is, let us say the truth -
> > overkill.
> >
> > A other good solution wou
Markus Hauschild wrote:
On Feb 4, 2008 10:47 PM, Peter Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The LiveDVD includes stages and a snapshot.
Interesting and good, but the LiveDVD is, let us say the truth -
overkill.
A other good solution would be merging Universal and Minimal-CD
togehter, so we offer o
On Feb 4, 2008 10:47 PM, Peter Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The LiveDVD includes stages and a snapshot.
>
> Interesting and good, but the LiveDVD is, let us say the truth -
> overkill.
>
> A other good solution would be merging Universal and Minimal-CD
> togehter, so we offer only a smaller
> The LiveDVD includes stages and a snapshot.
Interesting and good, but the LiveDVD is, let us say the truth -
overkill.
A other good solution would be merging Universal and Minimal-CD
togehter, so we offer only a smaller Universal-CD (about 200-400 MB) and
a complete LiveCD (about 700 MB).
> *
On Feb 4, 2008 10:26 PM, Andrew Gaffney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You're always welcome to build your own media if you don't like what we put
> out.
> Keep in mind that we are *volunteers*. We like the LiveCD, because it's easier
> to build and test.
Some people just like to stick with the stu
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 22:20 +0100, Peter Weber wrote:
> Gentoo should have again an Universal-CD again, because:
No. Never. Quit suggesting we resurrect this low-quality piece of
crap. We will never bring this back. Ever. It caused too many issues
and was more trouble than it was worth.
> *
Randall D. Wald wrote:
I second this, in particular the part about including stage3 on the CD;
I'm always annoyed when, after downloading and burning the LiveCD, I
need to download the stage3, possibly from a laptop without working
wireless.
The LiveDVD includes stages and a snapshot.
--
Andre
Peter Weber wrote:
Hello,
I now that Chris Gianelloni loves his LiveCD an the GUI-Installer and I
know that he don't like to accept changes he don't support personally.
But I do that know, so please don't kill me:
Gentoo should have again an Universal-CD again, because:
* Support for network/n
I second this, in particular the part about including stage3 on the CD;
I'm always annoyed when, after downloading and burning the LiveCD, I
need to download the stage3, possibly from a laptop without working
wireless.
Sincerely,
Randall
Peter Weber wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I now that Chris Gianello
Hello,
I now that Chris Gianelloni loves his LiveCD an the GUI-Installer and I
know that he don't like to accept changes he don't support personally.
But I do that know, so please don't kill me:
Gentoo should have again an Universal-CD again, because:
* Support for network/networkless-installati
On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 20:28 -0800, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
> Those few times I've installed a new box from the LiveCD/DVD, I've
> always done it networkless anyhow. That way, I get the box on the air
> in a short time and *then* I can indulge my inner ricer. :)
Actually, we've done one bett
On 04/02/2008, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alex Howells wrote:
> > I wasn't attempting to state "This does not work!"; merely expressing
> > that ~arch isn't really a supported platform. Dropping back to stable
> > isn't really a viable route, once your system is ~arch there
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