Re: [gentoo-user] Do not get an ATi (Was: Newbie Hardware Advice)

2005-03-02 Thread Keith Gable
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 18:21:59 -0800, Peter Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith Gable wrote: My problems were with the ATI binary driver. It is the biggest piece of crap on the planet. Excellent. I was just curious. As I have no plans to use ATi's proprietary drivers (F/OSS driver support

Re: [gentoo-user] Do not get an ATi (Was: Newbie Hardware Advice)

2005-03-01 Thread Peter Karlsson
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Heinz Sporn wrote: The reason why so many people literally hate Ati when it comes to Linux is rather simple: their Linux driver support is - simply put - weak, on the edge of not existing whereas Nvidia was rather friendly to the community right from the start. From the start

Re: [gentoo-user] Do not get an ATi (Was: Newbie Hardware Advice)

2005-03-01 Thread Bo Grimes
Peter Karlsson wrote: From the start is a bit exaggerated. But [NVidia] had binary drivers much earlier than ati. This thread has has led me to wonder about drivers. I have never installed a source distro, complied a kernel or installed a driver for my video card. I assumed SuSe, Mandrake,

Re: [gentoo-user] Do not get an ATi (Was: Newbie Hardware Advice)

2005-03-01 Thread Justin Patrin
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 12:17:57 +, Bo Grimes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Karlsson wrote: From the start is a bit exaggerated. But [NVidia] had binary drivers much earlier than ati. This thread has has led me to wonder about drivers. I have never installed a source distro, complied

Re: [gentoo-user] Do not get an ATi (Was: Newbie Hardware Advice)

2005-03-01 Thread Dave V
I had problems with ATI under both windows and linux, but that aside NVIDIA's drivers simply outperform similar ATI's based on similar cards in my (admittedly) limited experience. I had an Radeon 9250, and I gave up on it. My nvidia 5700LE is great and hasn't given me a bit of trouble from day

Re: [gentoo-user] Do not get an ATi (Was: Newbie Hardware Advice)

2005-03-01 Thread A. Khattri
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Bo Grimes wrote: I assumed SuSe, Mandrake, et.al. had them built in. Am I going to need to download a driver from NVidia (I decided on one of their cards) and compile it in? Is it a module or what? Even when I ran RedHat I had to use NVidia's binary drivers (this was on

Re: [gentoo-user] Do not get an ATi (Was: Newbie Hardware Advice)

2005-03-01 Thread Keith Gable
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:57:24 -0800, Peter Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith Gable wrote: From personal experience, I can say this: DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE GET AN ATI CARD. Just to satiate my curiosity, why do you say this? I'm planning on purchasing a Sapphire Radeon 9250 that

Re: [gentoo-user] Do not get an ATi (Was: Newbie Hardware Advice)

2005-03-01 Thread Peter Gordon
Keith Gable wrote: My problems were with the ATI binary driver. It is the biggest piece of crap on the planet. Excellent. I was just curious. As I have no plans to use ATi's proprietary drivers (F/OSS driver support is the primary reason I'm purchasing this card), I don't think I'll have any major

Re: [gentoo-user] Do not get an ATi (Was: Newbie Hardware Advice)

2005-03-01 Thread Max Lorenz
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 10:00:56 +0100 (MET), Peter Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... While nvidia is fiercely anti open source, even with their chipsets (nforce) drivers. ... I think that is not entirely true. IIRC the kernel driver (forcedeth) for the Nforce based network cards is supported by

Re: [gentoo-user] Do not get an ATi (Was: Newbie Hardware Advice)

2005-02-28 Thread Peter Gordon
Keith Gable wrote: From personal experience, I can say this: DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE GET AN ATI CARD. Just to satiate my curiosity, why do you say this? I'm planning on purchasing a Sapphire Radeon 9250 that I found on NewEgg because of the Free Software driver support (X.org and DRI). Were

Re: [gentoo-user] Do not get an ATi (Was: Newbie Hardware Advice)

2005-02-28 Thread Heinz Sporn
Hi! That recommendation is quite harsh IMHO - although I prefer Nvidia over Ati myself. With the latest release of stable drivers both Ati and Nvidia fully support Xorg 6.8 including 3D DRI. The reason why so many people literally hate Ati when it comes to Linux is rather simple: their Linux