On Oct 15, 2011 1:58 PM, "Dale" wrote:
>
> Pandu Poluan wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Oct 15, 2011 5:49 AM, "Dale" wrote:
>> >
>> > Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:15:24 -0500, Dale wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> A'right now. I'm going to start on hal and /usr being on / again.
:-P
>> >>
>> >
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Dale wrote:
> Pandu Poluan wrote:
>
> On Oct 15, 2011 5:49 AM, "Dale" wrote:
>>
>> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:15:24 -0500, Dale wrote:
>>>
A'right now. I'm going to start on hal and /usr being on / again. :-P
>>>
>>> Jeez, 43 years
* Messages for package sys-fs/udisks-1.0.4-r1:
* CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND: is not set when it should be.
As the message above from emerge says, no way to update sys-fs/udisks as
CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND is not set.
The problem is where to find that option. Not in linux/.config, so where ?
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Dale wrote:
>> Pandu Poluan wrote:
>>
>> On Oct 15, 2011 5:49 AM, "Dale" wrote:
>>>
>>> Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:15:24 -0500, Dale wrote:
> A'right now. I'm goi
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Alain Didierjean
wrote:
>
> * Messages for package sys-fs/udisks-1.0.4-r1:
>
> * CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND: is not set when it should be.
>
> As the message above from emerge says, no way to update sys-fs/udisks as
> CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND is not set.
> The proble
Hi Canek,
On Saturday, 15. October 2011 00:50:22 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés
wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Dale wrote:
> >> Pandu Poluan wrote:
> >>
> >> On Oct 15, 2011 5:49 AM, "Dale" wrote:
> >>> Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Dale wrote:
Pandu Poluan wrote:
On Oct 15, 2011 5:49 AM, "Dale" wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:15:24 -0500, Dale wrote:
A'right now. I'm going to start on hal and /usr being on / again. :-P
Jeez, 43 years
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> Hi Canek,
Hi Michael.
> On Saturday, 15. October 2011 00:50:22 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés
> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Dale wrote:
>> >> Pandu Poluan wro
On Saturday, 15. October 2011 01:42:10 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> > /var/lib usually stores whole
> > databases. The difference is important and relevant."
> My systems has directories alsa, bluetooth, hp and many more
> there that are not databases at all.
>
> So?
> Which one? That /var is not
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Dale wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Dale wrote:
>>>
>>> Pandu Poluan wrote:
>>>
>>> On Oct 15, 2011 5:49 AM, "Dale" wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
>
> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:15:24 -0500, Dale wrote:
On Saturday 15 Oct 2011 04:30:18 Lavender wrote:
> I have just tried , the output is like something below
>
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M92 LP
> Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 3644
> Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10
> Memory at 800
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:53 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> On Saturday, 15. October 2011 01:42:10 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> > /var/lib usually stores whole
>> > databases. The difference is important and relevant."
>
>> My systems has directories alsa, bluetooth, hp and many more
>> ther
Hi Canek,
On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:02:13 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Dale wrote:
> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Dale wrote:
> >>> Pandu Poluan wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 15, 2011 5:49 AM, "Dale" wrote:
> Neil
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> Hi Canek,
>
> On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:02:13 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Dale wrote:
>> > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Dale wrote:
>> >>> Pandu Poluan
On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:11:43 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:53 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer
wrote:
> > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 01:42:10 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> >> > /var/lib usually stores whole
> >> > databases. The difference is important and relevant.
On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:21:18 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer
wrote:
> > Hi Canek,
> >
> > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:02:13 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Dale wrote:
> >> > Canek Peláez Valdés
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
I would. But given the way udev people "solve" those issues, I don't.
If something on /var is needed during boot in the next ten years, they will
propose to move it to /. They do it with /run, they do it
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:11:43 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:53 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer
> wrote:
>> > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 01:42:10 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> >> > /var/lib usually st
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:21:18 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer
> wrote:
>> > Hi Canek,
>> >
>> > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:02:13 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> >> O
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:34:10 -0700, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> /var != /var/run
> /var != /var/lock
>
> /var/run is going in /run, but /var/run (by definition) only contains
> things like PID files and runtime sockets. In the same vein, /var/lock
> also is going into /run/lock. I have acknowled
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Dale wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would. But given the way udev people "solve" those issues, I don't.
>>> If something on /var is needed during boot in the next ten years, the
On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:47:26 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer
wrote:
> > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:11:43 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:53 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer
> >>
> >
> > wrote:
> >> > On Sat
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:53 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:34:10 -0700, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
>> /var != /var/run
>> /var != /var/lock
>>
>> /var/run is going in /run, but /var/run (by definition) only contains
>> things like PID files and runtime sockets. In the same ve
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:47:26 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer
> wrote:
>> > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:11:43 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011
On Saturday, 15. October 2011 03:34:27 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer
wrote:
> > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:47:26 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer
> >>
> >
> > wrote:
> >> > On Sat
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 3:34 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer
> wrote:
>> On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:47:26 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer
>> wrote:
>>> > On Saturday, 15. Octobe
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 3:45 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
> On Saturday, 15. October 2011 03:34:27 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer
> wrote:
>> > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:47:26 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 03:10:37 -0700, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> It's arbitrary (basically) on executables and libraries. If an script
> needs something more (from /var, lets say), then the rule should be
> written in such a way that it can be called after that directory is
> mounted. If you try t
hello boys [1],
i know i don't participate much on this list, but this does not mean that
i don't try to follow most of the threads (not all of them, i admit).
i realized just now that no one has commented on the news of the recent
death of dennis ritchie. considering that his contributions to t
Am Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:54:48 -0700
schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés :
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Alain Didierjean
> wrote:
> >
> > * Messages for package sys-fs/udisks-1.0.4-r1:
> >
> > * CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND: is not set when it should be.
> >
> > As the message above from emerge says
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 7:33 AM, luis jure wrote:
>
> hello boys [1],
>
> i know i don't participate much on this list, but this does not mean that
> i don't try to follow most of the threads (not all of them, i admit).
>
> i realized just now that no one has commented on the news of the recent
>
Am 15.10.2011 13:57, schrieb Jonas de Buhr:
> Am Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:54:48 -0700
> schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés :
>
>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Alain Didierjean
>> wrote:
>>> * Messages for package sys-fs/udisks-1.0.4-r1:
>>>
>>> * CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND: is not set when it should be
Am Sat, 15 Oct 2011 12:31:24 +0100
schrieb Neil Bothwick :
> On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 03:10:37 -0700, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>
> > It's arbitrary (basically) on executables and libraries. If an
> > script needs something more (from /var, lets say), then the rule
> > should be written in such a way
On Saturday 15 Oct 2011 00:20:14 Jonas de Buhr wrote:
> Am Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:01:04 +0100
>
> schrieb Mick :
> > Have you seen this before?
> > `/var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/pam-1.1.4/work/Linux-PAM-1.1.4'
> > make[1]: Leaving directory
> > `/var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/pam-1.1.4/work/Linux-PAM-1.1.4'
On 15/10/2011 12:33, luis jure wrote:
>
> hello boys [1],
>
> i know i don't participate much on this list, but this does not mean that
> i don't try to follow most of the threads (not all of them, i admit).
>
> i realized just now that no one has commented on the news of the recent
> death of d
On 15/10/2011 13:26, Matt Harrison wrote:
> On 15/10/2011 12:33, luis jure wrote:
>>
>> hello boys [1],
>>
>> i know i don't participate much on this list, but this does not mean that
>> i don't try to follow most of the threads (not all of them, i admit).
>>
>> i realized just now that no one has
Am Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:26:40 +0100
schrieb Matt Harrison :
> On 15/10/2011 12:33, luis jure wrote:
> >
> > hello boys [1],
> >
> > i know i don't participate much on this list, but this does not
> > mean that i don't try to follow most of the threads (not all of
> > them, i admit).
> >
> > i re
Am Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:24:02 +0100
schrieb Mick :
> On Saturday 15 Oct 2011 00:20:14 Jonas de Buhr wrote:
> > Am Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:01:04 +0100
> >
> > schrieb Mick :
> > > Have you seen this before?
>
> > > `/var/tmp/portage/sys-libs/pam-1.1.4/work/Linux-PAM-1.1.4'
> > > make[1]: Leaving direc
>
> i realized just now that no one has commented on the news of the recent
death of dennis ritchie. considering that his contributions to the
development of computational technologies were not only paramount, but
affect all of us in a very direct way, i think we could somehow compensate
for th
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:34:10 -0700
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> /var != /var/run
> /var != /var/lock
>
> /var/run is going in /run, but /var/run (by definition) only contains
> things like PID files and runtime sockets. In the same vein, /var/lock
> also is going into /run/lock. I have acknowled
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:34:10 -0700
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> It basically removes the need for a "pesky init* thingy", although for
> the life of me I cannot understand why someone will not see the
> technical advantages of actually using an initramfs.
I'll use your own opening comment as a r
On 2011-10-15 11:02, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> Yes, as I said in my last mail, if you need LVM, you need an
> initramfs. Remove the LVM, and you can have /var (and /usr for that
> matter) withouth an initramfs. Where/when did I say something
> different?
I assume you mean: "if you need LVM fo
Hi Raffaele,
how far did you get with compiling rootfs? Do you have complete gentoo
installation including kernel compiled for ARM? Would it be possible to make
vmdk/any other image for Qemu in which it could be run? I guess it would
ease quite many things...
As for my progress: I found out that p
On 10/15/2011 03:26 PM, Matt Harrison wrote:
On 15/10/2011 12:33, luis jure wrote:
hello boys [1],
i know i don't participate much on this list, but this does not mean that
i don't try to follow most of the threads (not all of them, i admit).
i realized just now that no one has commented on t
Wow. Just wow.
GREAT way to confuse and welcome the poor-English Chinese guy.
Welcome Lavender. You are now officially recognized as a human being, not a
bot.
We'll be glad to help you with Gentoo.
Please ignore all the FUD and discussion about /var needing (or not) to be
in the root partition,
Am Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:47:07 +0300
schrieb Nikos Chantziaras :
> On 10/15/2011 03:26 PM, Matt Harrison wrote:
> > On 15/10/2011 12:33, luis jure wrote:
> >
> > I have spent the last few hours trying to explain his work to the
> > folks here who were so saddened by Steve Jobs passing. While it is
>
On Saturday 15 Oct 2011 14:09:46 Jonas de Buhr wrote:
> Am Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:24:02 +0100
>
> schrieb Mick :
> > On Saturday 15 Oct 2011 00:20:14 Jonas de Buhr wrote:
> > > Am Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:01:04 +0100
> > >
> > > schrieb Mick :
> > > > Have you seen this before?
> > > >
> > > > `/var/tmp
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:37 AM, Dale wrote:
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer
wrote:
I would. But given the way udev people "solve" those issues, I don't.
If something on /var is needed during boot in the next ten
Am Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:17:41 +0100
schrieb Mick :
> On Saturday 15 Oct 2011 14:09:46 Jonas de Buhr wrote:
> > Am Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:24:02 +0100
> >
> > schrieb Mick :
> > > On Saturday 15 Oct 2011 00:20:14 Jonas de Buhr wrote:
> > > > Am Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:01:04 +0100
> > > >
> > > > schrieb M
Jonas de Buhr [11-10-15 19:16]:
> Am Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:47:07 +0300
> schrieb Nikos Chantziaras :
>
> > On 10/15/2011 03:26 PM, Matt Harrison wrote:
> > > On 15/10/2011 12:33, luis jure wrote:
> > >
> > > I have spent the last few hours trying to explain his work to the
> > > folks here who were
> i don't think its about money, but about popularity. everybody knows
> who steve jobs is, thats why his death makes front page.
> average joe doesn't know ritchie and doesn't care about C.
Back at my University only very small number of people knows, who's Richie
(although GNU/Linux systems are
On Saturday, October 15, 2011 12:34:10 AM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> > I noticed the other day that when LVM tries to start, it fails. I have
> > /var on a separate partition here. It was complaining about something
> > on /var missing. So, you may be late in reporting this. I think it is
> >
On Saturday 15 Oct 2011 18:43:06 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Jonas de Buhr [11-10-15 19:16]:
> > Am Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:47:07 +0300
> >
> > schrieb Nikos Chantziaras :
> > > On 10/15/2011 03:26 PM, Matt Harrison wrote:
> > > > On 15/10/2011 12:33, luis jure wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have spent t
On Saturday 15 Oct 2011 18:27:50 Jonas de Buhr wrote:
> Am Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:17:41 +0100
>
> schrieb Mick :
> > On Saturday 15 Oct 2011 14:09:46 Jonas de Buhr wrote:
> > > Am Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:24:02 +0100
> > >
> > > schrieb Mick :
> > > > On Saturday 15 Oct 2011 00:20:14 Jonas de Buhr wrote:
On Saturday, October 15, 2011 03:34:27 AM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer
wrote:
> > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 02:47:26 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:31 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer
> >>
> >
> > wrote:
> >> > On
Hi Claudio, hi Lavender,
On Saturday, 15. October 2011 13:46:31 Claudio Roberto França Pereira wrote:
> Wow. Just wow.
:)
> GREAT way to confuse and welcome the poor-English Chinese guy.
> Welcome Lavender. You are now officially recognized as a human being, not a
> bot.
> We'll be glad to help
Hi Canek,
On Saturday, 15. October 2011 04:04:05 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> I got that points wrong, I admit. I repeat, 3am here ;) I apogolize
> for saying that to you Michael; I shouldn't have, even if I would have
> been right (and I wasn't). Again, no excuse, but it's (actually) 4am
> here n
Hi Michael,
On Saturday, 15. October 2011 08:10:13 Michael Mol wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 7:33 AM, luis jure wrote:
> > hello boys [1],
> >
> > i know i don't participate much on this list, but this does not mean
> > that
> > i don't try to follow most of the threads (not all of them, i ad
Hi guys,
I'm still struggling with this. Gave up last weekend and haven't had
time until now. Thought I had it going when I got a command prompt and
then, networking wasn't working. Anyway, more details .
On 10/10/11 16:43, David Abbott wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 4:31 PM, CJoeB wrot
On Saturday, 15. October 2011 16:07:42 CJoeB wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm still struggling with this. Gave up last weekend and haven't had
> time until now. Thought I had it going when I got a command prompt and
> then, networking wasn't working. Anyway, more details .
>
> On 10/10/11 16:43,
On 10/14/2011 10:00 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote:
>Also less overthinking and more testing solves most of this stuff quicker.
>
I prefer to arm myself with enough knowledge before deploying -- even in
a testing setup -- to reduce any 'WTF?!' moments :-)
Research is good, but you'll learn way more
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:46:31 -0300, Claudio Roberto França Pereira wrote:
> Wow. Just wow.
>
> GREAT way to confuse and welcome the poor-English Chinese guy.
Good point. Sorry Lavender, please feel free to start another thread...
which may or may not get hijacked.
> Please ignore all the FUD an
On 10/15/11 16:21, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
>
>> Documentation for my monitor states that the max resolution is
>> 1920x1080@60 Hz
> To get this resolution that early you need kms.
>
> Check your kernel-config:
>
> CONFIG_DRM_RADEON=m
> CONFIG_DRM_RADEON_KMS=y
> CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE=y
>
Hi everyone,
Well, thanks to the help I got from the list, I finally have Gentoo
installed on my new desktop and booting to a command prompt.
However, now I have a networking issue.
In past, when I booted to the install CD and my ethernet connection was
not active, I typed net-setup eth0 and was
On 10/15/2011 4:42 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
Which one? That /var is not going into /? It's not disinformation, it
is th true. If not, please be so kind of showin one single developer
reference that says so. One. Single. One.
Email, blog post, wiki, you choose it. But one single one.
I d
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