Re: [gentoo-user] sys-devel/bc required for kernel compile?

2013-03-12 Thread netfab
Le 11/03/13 à 14:59, Grant a tapoté : My wife and I have identical Dell XPS 13 laptops. I have the config on both as close as possible. We use identical kernel config files, but I can compile git-sources-3.9-rc1 without installing sys-devel/bc and it looks like she can not. Does anyone know

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 3.8 and external drivers

2013-03-12 Thread Yuri K. Shatroff
On 11.03.2013 21:47, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 11.03.2013 14:00, schrieb Yuri K. Shatroff: [ quoting stripped ] sorry for breaking in, but... (to Volker Armin Hemmann) 1. If this driver is superfluous as you say, then why does it ever exist in portage? because it exists? gnome is

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-devel/bc required for kernel compile?

2013-03-12 Thread Philip Webb
130311 Grant wrote: My wife and I have identical Dell XPS 13 laptops. I have the config on both as close as possible. We use identical kernel config files, but I can compile git-sources-3.9-rc1 without installing sys-devel/bc and it looks like she can not. Does anyone know why this would

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 3.8 and external drivers

2013-03-12 Thread Alexander Schwarz
Am 12.03.2013 08:33, schrieb Yuri K. Shatroff: Again, following your logic, why not just let the user himself ./configure make make install as in old days? What is portage for? Following your logic, if there's even one tool to make life easier everything has to be absolutely easy. So we

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 3.8 and external drivers

2013-03-12 Thread Yuri K. Shatroff
On 12.03.2013 12:46, Alexander Schwarz wrote: Am 12.03.2013 08:33, schrieb Yuri K. Shatroff: Again, following your logic, why not just let the user himself ./configure make make install as in old days? What is portage for? Following your logic, if there's even one tool to make life easier

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 3.8 and external drivers

2013-03-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/03/2013 12:01, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: Following your logic, if there's even one tool to make life easier everything has to be absolutely easy. So we should now utilize fancy wizards? Once again, that's following your logic. not has to be easy, but definitely, with such purpose. Do

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 3.8 and external drivers

2013-03-12 Thread Alexander Schwarz
Am 12.03.2013 11:01, schrieb Yuri K. Shatroff: On 12.03.2013 12:46, Alexander Schwarz wrote: Am 12.03.2013 08:33, schrieb Yuri K. Shatroff: Again, following your logic, why not just let the user himself ./configure make make install as in old days? What is portage for? Following your

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 3.8 and external drivers

2013-03-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 12:30:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: not has to be easy, but definitely, with such purpose. Do you disagree? Perhaps you reckon that the whole purpose of computing is to make life harder? :) You know, this general topic rears it's head about every six months. The

Re: [Bulk] Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/hosts include file?

2013-03-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/03/2013 04:02, Michael Mol wrote: We should be pounding away on the fact that we're running out of IP addresses... period... end of story. If people ask about NAT, then mention that the undersupply will be so bad that even NAT won't help. In my presentations, I've stopped

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 3.8 and external drivers

2013-03-12 Thread Yuri K. Shatroff
On 12.03.2013 14:30, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 12/03/2013 12:01, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: Following your logic, if there's even one tool to make life easier everything has to be absolutely easy. So we should now utilize fancy wizards? Once again, that's following your logic. not has to be

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 3.8 and external drivers

2013-03-12 Thread Dale
Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: I only have to repeat that I thought the words said to the OP a little harsh and wanted to defend him because everyone once gets into such a situation for the first time, and experience is what had been needed most when you hadn't it :) so that he wouldn't take it too

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 3.8 and external drivers

2013-03-12 Thread Yuri K. Shatroff
On 12.03.2013 14:44, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 12:30:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: not has to be easy, but definitely, with such purpose. Do you disagree? Perhaps you reckon that the whole purpose of computing is to make life harder? :) You know, this general topic rears it's

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 3.8 and external drivers

2013-03-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/03/2013 13:35, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: I don't see why you are getting so upset. The OP asked a question, he got an answer. He seems OK with it, so why are you getting offended on his behalf? In no way. I don't know if it is my English that sounds to you so differently from what I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 3.8 and external drivers

2013-03-12 Thread Yuri K. Shatroff
On 12.03.2013 15:51, Dale wrote: You may want to know, Volker is quite known for being harsh to use your word. Most of us here, just ignore it. Dale :-) :-) :-) On 12.03.2013 15:51, Alan McKinnon wrote: So don't overthink what happens around here. The reality is more like this: user1:

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 3.8 and external drivers

2013-03-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/03/2013 14:13, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: On 12.03.2013 15:51, Dale wrote: You may want to know, Volker is quite known for being harsh to use your word. Most of us here, just ignore it. Dale :-) :-) :-) On 12.03.2013 15:51, Alan McKinnon wrote: So don't overthink what happens

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 3.8 and external drivers

2013-03-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 15:51:23 +0400, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: On the other hand, if you file bug report with a patch to the ebuild that checks the running kernel version and outputs an elog message of you might want to try the in-kernel drivers. They may simply say thank you. The

[gentoo-user] Re: USB Tethering Android

2013-03-12 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Nilesh Govindrajan m...@nileshgr.com wrote: Hi, I'm trying to tether 3G from my Xperia S and Nexus 4 via USB, but the interface doesn't show up (earlier I used to get usb0 after enabling tethering). I have compiled all related drivers : cdc_acm, cdc_ether,

[gentoo-user] PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET

2013-03-12 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, suddenly emerging some packages like app-office/libreoffice or media-gfx/blender fail due to No Python implementation selected for the build. Please set * the PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET variable in your make.conf to one * of the following values: * * python2_7 python3_3 but in

Re: [gentoo-user] PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET

2013-03-12 Thread julian
On 03/12/2013 03:55 PM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, suddenly emerging some packages like app-office/libreoffice or media-gfx/blender fail due to No Python implementation selected for the build. Please set * the PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET variable in your make.conf to one * of the following

Re: [gentoo-user] PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET

2013-03-12 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 03/12/2013 03:55:06 PM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, suddenly emerging some packages like app-office/libreoffice or media-gfx/blender fail due to No Python implementation selected for the build. Please set * the PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET variable in your make.conf to one * of the following

Re: [gentoo-user] PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET

2013-03-12 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 03/12/2013 04:36:09 PM, julian wrote: On 03/12/2013 03:55 PM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, suddenly emerging some packages like app-office/libreoffice or media-gfx/blender fail due to No Python implementation selected for the build. Please set * the PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET variable in your

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 3.8 and external drivers

2013-03-12 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 12.03.2013 12:51, schrieb Yuri K. Shatroff: On 12.03.2013 14:44, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 12:30:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: not has to be easy, but definitely, with such purpose. Do you disagree? Perhaps you reckon that the whole purpose of computing is to make life

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-devel/bc required for kernel compile?

2013-03-12 Thread Grant
My wife and I have identical Dell XPS 13 laptops. I have the config on both as close as possible. We use identical kernel config files, but I can compile git-sources-3.9-rc1 without installing sys-devel/bc and it looks like she can not. Does anyone know why this would happen? BC

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-devel/bc required for kernel compile?

2013-03-12 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: My wife and I have identical Dell XPS 13 laptops. I have the config on both as close as possible. We use identical kernel config files, but I can compile git-sources-3.9-rc1 without installing sys-devel/bc and it looks like

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/hosts include file?

2013-03-12 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 13:29:38 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: We should be pounding away on the fact that we're running out of IP addresses... period... end of story. If people ask about NAT, then mention that the undersupply will be so bad that even NAT won't

[gentoo-user] Logitech K810 Keyboard On Gentoo?

2013-03-12 Thread Kermit
Hello all, I'v bought this keyboard: http://www.logitech.com/en-roeu/product/bluetooth-illuminated-keyboard-k810?crid=26 But I can't used it on Gentoo, I had installed the follow packages: $ eix blue|grep ^\[I [I] net-wireless/bluez [I] net-wireless/bluez-hcidump [I]