Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS="--jobs --load-average=5"' silly?

2013-03-25 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 10:25:58PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote > Running MAKEOPTS="-j1" as default on a multi-core processor seems an > awful waste of resources, unless it is needed for something else, in > which case I don't run emerge at all. Running around for a few hours trying to replicate

Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS="--jobs --load-average=5"' silly?

2013-03-25 Thread gottlieb
On Mon, Mar 25 2013, Dale wrote: > gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: >> Also I am somewhat surprised you can run libreoffice with >> MAKEOPTS="-j4". I seem to remember that being one of the ones I had to >> degrade. Thanks for the tip, I will use it. allan > > I update libreoffice whenever it needs it and

Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS="--jobs --load-average=5"' silly?

2013-03-25 Thread Dale
gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > Also I am somewhat surprised you can run libreoffice with > MAKEOPTS="-j4". I seem to remember that being one of the ones I had to > degrade. Thanks for the tip, I will use it. allan I update libreoffice whenever it needs it and I have this setting: MAKEOPTS="-j16" It

Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS="--jobs --load-average=5"' silly?

2013-03-25 Thread gottlieb
On Mon, Mar 25 2013, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 16:57:09 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > >> It is not clear that any time saved by having jobs=5 compensates for >> having to redo builds. So my question is do people >> >> 1. keep jobs=1 in MAKEOPTS >> 2. have jobs=n in MAKEOPTS b

Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS="--jobs --load-average=5"' silly?

2013-03-25 Thread gottlieb
On Mon, Mar 25 2013, Michael Hampicke wrote: > Am 25.03.2013 21:57, schrieb gottl...@nyu.edu: >> For a long time I have had in make.conf >> >> EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--ask --deep --tree --verbose --jobs --load-average=5" >> MAKEOPTS="--jobs --load-average=5" >> >> (for previous processors the 5 wa

Re: [gentoo-user] udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-25 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 26.03.2013 01:20, schrieb Mike Gilbert: > Please run "emerge -1 /lib/udev" to reinstall any packages which have > installed udev rules in /lib/udev/rules.d. 29 pkgs there (virtual/udev in there again) late here ... more tomorrow ... thanks, regards, Stefan

Re: [gentoo-user] udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-25 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 26.03.2013 00:10, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: >> Am 25.03.2013 23:39, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: >>> >>> I assume I have to remove udev-init-scripts now? >> >> rebooted >> >> .. >> >> afai see the system doesn't detect/ start u

Re: [gentoo-user] udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-25 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 26.03.2013 00:10, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Am 25.03.2013 23:39, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: >> >> I assume I have to remove udev-init-scripts now? > > rebooted > > .. > > afai see the system doesn't detect/ start up the raid-devices anymore. > This (in my case) leads to no detected P

Re: [gentoo-user] udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-25 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 25.03.2013 23:39, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > > I assume I have to remove udev-init-scripts now? rebooted .. afai see the system doesn't detect/ start up the raid-devices anymore. This (in my case) leads to no detected PVs for the lvm2-stuff ... Not so funny.

Re: [gentoo-user] udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-25 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
I assume I have to remove udev-init-scripts now?

Re: [gentoo-user] udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-25 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 25.03.2013 23:30, schrieb Neil Bothwick: > On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 22:38:53 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > >>> Do you have sys-fs/udev in your world file by any chance? If >>> so, please remove it. >> >> Yes, I had. Removed it, same blockages. >> >> now: >> >> # grep udev /var/lib/portage/

Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS="--jobs --load-average=5"' silly?

2013-03-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 23:27:04 +0100, Michael Hampicke wrote: > This is what I use: > EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--jobs=2 --load-average=6" > > I havent't had any failed builds that were related to the --jobs option. > The only exception is when rebuilding my kernel modules. I have to build > spl first,

Re: [gentoo-user] udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 22:38:53 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > Do you have sys-fs/udev in your world file by any chance? If so, > > please remove it. > > Yes, I had. Removed it, same blockages. > > now: > > # grep udev /var/lib/portage/world > app-vim/udev-syntax > virtual/udev You stil

Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS="--jobs --load-average=5"' silly?

2013-03-25 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 25.03.2013 21:57, schrieb gottl...@nyu.edu: > For a long time I have had in make.conf > > EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--ask --deep --tree --verbose --jobs --load-average=5" > MAKEOPTS="--jobs --load-average=5" > > (for previous processors the 5 was 3). > > It seems that this configuration fails for

Re: [gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS="--jobs --load-average=5"' silly?

2013-03-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 16:57:09 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > It is not clear that any time saved by having jobs=5 compensates for > having to redo builds. So my question is do people > > 1. keep jobs=1 in MAKEOPTS > 2. have jobs=n in MAKEOPTS but degrade on error as I do > 3. have jobs=n and fi

Re: [gentoo-user] udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-25 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 25.03.2013 22:56, schrieb Mike Gilbert: > Try just emerge -v1 systemd. You no longer need sys-fs/udev, and it > should be removed when you upgrade to sys-apps/systemd-r5. Oh, interesting. I understand. Is there any information somewhere on this (no ranting! just asking for ... as other users m

Re: [gentoo-user] udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-25 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 25.03.2013 22:26, schrieb Mike Gilbert: > >> Do you have sys-fs/udev in your world file by any chance? If so, >> please remove it. > > Yes, I had. Removed it, same blockages. > > now: > > # grep udev /var/lib/portage/world > app-vim

Re: [gentoo-user] udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-25 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 25.03.2013 22:26, schrieb Mike Gilbert: > Do you have sys-fs/udev in your world file by any chance? If so, > please remove it. Yes, I had. Removed it, same blockages. now: # grep udev /var/lib/portage/world app-vim/udev-syntax virtual/udev ... Ad use-flags: I have/had =sys-fs/udev-197-r8

Re: [gentoo-user] udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-25 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 25.03.2013 22:18, schrieb Mike Gilbert: > >> I feel your pain. That bug report got out of control so I wanted to >> put a stop to the comments. >> >> I am happy to help you work out your blocker issue here, or in a new >> bug report

Re: [gentoo-user] udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-25 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 25.03.2013 22:18, schrieb Mike Gilbert: > I feel your pain. That bug report got out of control so I wanted to > put a stop to the comments. > > I am happy to help you work out your blocker issue here, or in a new > bug report. I am in no hurry and could simply wait for fresh ebuilds coming i

Re: [gentoo-user] udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-25 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> >> Just found that I have a blocking situation ... systemd and udev don't >> "like each other" right now ;-) >> >> Tried various maskings ... and found some hints in the Changelo

Re: [gentoo-user] udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-25 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > Just found that I have a blocking situation ... systemd and udev don't > "like each other" right now ;-) > > Tried various maskings ... and found some hints in the Changelog here: > > http://gentoo-portage.com/sys-fs/udev/ChangeLog#p

[gentoo-user] udev blocks systemd etc

2013-03-25 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Just found that I have a blocking situation ... systemd and udev don't "like each other" right now ;-) Tried various maskings ... and found some hints in the Changelog here: http://gentoo-portage.com/sys-fs/udev/ChangeLog#ptabs this lead me to this bugreport: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.c

[gentoo-user] Is 'MAKEOPTS="--jobs --load-average=5"' silly?

2013-03-25 Thread gottlieb
For a long time I have had in make.conf EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--ask --deep --tree --verbose --jobs --load-average=5" MAKEOPTS="--jobs --load-average=5" (for previous processors the 5 was 3). It seems that this configuration fails for several packages (or tickles bugs in their ebuilds/Makefiles).