Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 07:02:35 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: > > Yes, and it's mounted ro to minimise the risk of such damage. > I used to do this (keeping a rescue partitio) ... but found it was > useful only some of the time. Nowadays I just leave a sysrescuecd USB > key on top of the case :)

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-20 Thread William Kenworthy
On 21/07/13 06:42, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 17:38:59 -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: > >>> A known, good kernel is not much help if your root filesystem is >>> damaged, although I do make sure I always have at least one such >>> kernel in /boot. > >> Thanks. I assume you must have a se

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 17:38:59 -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: > > A known, good kernel is not much help if your root filesystem is > > damaged, although I do make sure I always have at least one such > > kernel in /boot. > Thanks. I assume you must have a separate /boot partition in case "your > root fil

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-20 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 11:20:30PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > Would you mind a short HOW-TO for that, including {lilo,grub}.conf? > > http://www.sysresccd.org/Sysresccd-manual-en_Easy_install_SystemRescueCd_on_harddisk#Boot_the_ISO_image_from_the_disk_using_Grub2 > > > And would this on

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 17:00:21 -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: > On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 10:43:39PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > How do you copy one to a stick when you need to rescue an unbootable > > system? I prefer to keep the ISO in /boot, no need for a USB stick > > then. > > Would you mind

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-20 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 10:43:39PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > How do you copy one to a stick when you need to rescue an unbootable > system? I prefer to keep the ISO in /boot, no need for a USB stick then. Would you mind a short HOW-TO for that, including {lilo,grub}.conf? And would this on

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 14:50:29 -0500, Dale wrote: > Neil, you know how payback is right? ROFL That's the one with Mel Gibson? -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 35: Legally drunk signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng segfaults

2013-07-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 20:27:51 +0800, kwk...@hkbn.net wrote: > Same behaviour here. In my case with an "lsof | grep libsyslog-ng" I > see in the physical host hp-systray from hplip was still > using the old libsyslog-ng.so, so killing that and a restart of > syslog-ng service stops the segfault lin

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 12:26:04 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Remember, he's an Englishman and they don't do slapstick humour, they do > clever and subtle humour. Have you never seen Monty Python or The Goodies? PS, let me know when you think this is getting off-topic... -- Neil Bothwick If at

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 19:50:47 -0500, Dale wrote: > Changing the case of the b around is not going to change what space my > data consumes or what a drive can hold. No, but it does change the meaning of what you are saying it uses, and invalidates your sig in the process :) Remember *nix is case-

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-20 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 15:02:48 -0500, Dale wrote: > I > also keep the last two versions of sysrescue for my USB stick. How do you copy one to a stick when you need to rescue an unbootable system? I prefer to keep the ISO in /boot, no need for a USB stick then. -- Neil Bothwick By the time you

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-20 Thread Dale
pk wrote: On 2013-07-20 13:59, luis jure wrote: the average home user has lots of useless crap. i know *i* do... Yes, I do too... So the answer is smaller disks in order not to accumulate so much crap! ;-) Best regards Peter K I have to say, most of mine is useful stuff. I have smaller

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-20 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 20 Jul 2013 12:26:04 Alan McKinnon wrote: Neil is jerking your chain :-) Remember, he's an Englishman and they don't do slapstick humour, they do clever and subtle humour. I'm another, and I've been tempted to make the same observation as Neil did, but I woul

Re: SSDs, VM SANs & RAID - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-20 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Jul 20, 2013 9:27 PM, "Tanstaafl" wrote: > > On 2013-07-19 3:02 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: >> >> I think you are. Unless you are moving massive terabytes of data >> across your drive on a constant basis I would not worry about regular >> everyday write activity being a problem. > > > I have a que

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-20 Thread pk
On 2013-07-20 13:59, luis jure wrote: >the average home user has lots of useless crap. i know > *i* do... Yes, I do too... So the answer is smaller disks in order not to accumulate so much crap! ;-) Best regards Peter K

SSDs, VM SANs & RAID - WAS Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-20 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-07-19 3:02 PM, Paul Hartman wrote: I think you are. Unless you are moving massive terabytes of data across your drive on a constant basis I would not worry about regular everyday write activity being a problem. I have a question regarding the use of SSDs in a VM SAN... We are consider

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-20 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 20 Jul 2013 12:26:04 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Neil is jerking your chain :-) > > Remember, he's an Englishman and they don't do slapstick humour, they do > clever and subtle humour. I'm another, and I've been tempted to make the same observation as Neil did, but I wouldn't have been s

Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng segfaults

2013-07-20 Thread kwkhui
On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 17:03:36 -0400 Randy Barlow wrote: > Alexey Mishustin wrote: > >> So, restarting syslog-ng should be all that's required to fix it - > >> reboot is > >> >overkill. > > > As for me, first I updated syslog-ng, then I issued > > '/etc/init.d/syslog-ng reload' (by mistake, instea

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-20 Thread luis jure
on 2013-07-20 at 09:42 pk wrote: > On 2013-07-20 01:23, luis jure wrote: > > > hehe... i guess neil meant that in average for each Tb you have in your > > disk, only 125Mb is really important or useful. the rest is crap that > > just piles up... > > > > No, 1Tb = 125GB (note the difference betw

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 20/07/2013 01:03, Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:43:39 -0500, Dale wrote: >> >>> My /home is over 1Tb, that is Tb too. I'm not buying >>> one big enough for all that. >> 1Tb is only 125GB, well within the capacity of current SSDs :P >> >> Switching to an SSD, partic

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD partitioning and migration

2013-07-20 Thread pk
On 2013-07-20 01:23, luis jure wrote: > hehe... i guess neil meant that in average for each Tb you have in your > disk, only 125Mb is really important or useful. the rest is crap that just > piles up... > No, 1Tb = 125GB (note the difference between Tb = Tbit and TB=TByte)... Best regards Pete