Re: [gentoo-user] conf.d/net and systemd

2013-07-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:53 PM, wrote: > Hi there. I would like to know how I can use my existing conf.d/net if > I were to use systemd, or is there some better way to do this? I have > two static networks an internal and external one and use the postup for > things which must go online once

Re: [gentoo-user] conf.d/net and systemd

2013-07-29 Thread Pavel Volkov
On Tuesday 30 July 2013 00:53:08 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > Hi there. I would like to know how I can use my existing conf.d/net if > I were to use systemd, or is there some better way to do this? I have > two static networks an internal and external one and use the postup for > things which m

[gentoo-user] which VM do you recommend?

2013-07-29 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, I've been running a Windows 7 (professional)guest with Virtualbox on my GenToo system for some years. But recently I have a broken network either due to Virtualbox or due to some (automatic) Windows updates. The situation is more than strange. Sometime using a backed up Virtualbox image

Re: [gentoo-user] SQL Server Advice for Small Business

2013-07-29 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Mon, July 29, 2013 22:22, Randy Westlund wrote: > Hey guys, > > I'm planning to set up an SQL server for my dad's small canvas awning > business, and I've never done this before. Most of my sysadmin-type > skills are self-taught. I could use some advice. > > My dad needs infrastructure to allo

Re: [gentoo-user] [Preliminary report] Gnome-3.8 update works with openrc :)

2013-07-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:26 AM, Michael Hampicke wrote: > Am 30.07.2013 03:04, schrieb walt: >> As I posted in another thread, after successfully updating to gnome-3.8 >> on a virtual gentoo machine that's been running systemd for months, I >> tackled my openrc gentoo virtual machine just to see

Re: [gentoo-user] [Preliminary report] Gnome-3.8 update works with openrc :)

2013-07-29 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 30.07.2013 03:04, schrieb walt: > As I posted in another thread, after successfully updating to gnome-3.8 > on a virtual gentoo machine that's been running systemd for months, I > tackled my openrc gentoo virtual machine just to see if I could do it. > > I just did it :) Gnome-3.8 is running o

Re: [gentoo-user] [~amd64] Some possibly (?) helpful hints re the big gnome-3.8 update

2013-07-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 7:56 PM, wrote: > I am a gnome-3 user, who wants to continue with gnome-3. I understand > now that to move to 3.8 requires I move from openRC to systemd and am > trying to accomplish that now. I have so far only done the easy first > steps. > > 0. I always back up my us

[gentoo-user] conf.d/net and systemd

2013-07-29 Thread covici
Hi there. I would like to know how I can use my existing conf.d/net if I were to use systemd, or is there some better way to do this? I have two static networks an internal and external one and use the postup for things which must go online once the external network is up. I had to use modules="

[gentoo-user] Any .config for vbox gentoo guest

2013-07-29 Thread Harry Putnam
Can anyone post a .config for a 3.8.13 kernel that is known to work on a vbox install of gentoo as guest. Working on a fresh install but don't have gentoo running anywhere to rob a .config from.

Re: [gentoo-user] [~amd64] Some possibly (?) helpful hints re the big gnome-3.8 update

2013-07-29 Thread gottlieb
On Mon, Jul 29 2013, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > I am a gnome-3 user, who wants to continue with gnome-3. I understand > now that to move to 3.8 requires I move from openRC to systemd and am > trying to accomplish that now. I have so far only done the easy first > steps. OK. Walt proved this wro

Re: [gentoo-user] [Preliminary report] Gnome-3.8 update works with openrc :)

2013-07-29 Thread Mark David Dumlao
walt, are you using pam_systemd? I have a hunch that systemd-logind should still work.

[gentoo-user] Re: Creating binary packages before updating them

2013-07-29 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 30/07/13 01:18, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 29/07/13 14:24, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: On 07/29/2013 01:18 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Normally, when I'm about to update an important package, I back it up first using quickpkg. I'm often

[gentoo-user] [Preliminary report] Gnome-3.8 update works with openrc :)

2013-07-29 Thread walt
As I posted in another thread, after successfully updating to gnome-3.8 on a virtual gentoo machine that's been running systemd for months, I tackled my openrc gentoo virtual machine just to see if I could do it. I just did it :) Gnome-3.8 is running on the openrc machine without running systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] [~amd64] Some possibly (?) helpful hints re the big gnome-3.8 update

2013-07-29 Thread gottlieb
I am a gnome-3 user, who wants to continue with gnome-3. I understand now that to move to 3.8 requires I move from openRC to systemd and am trying to accomplish that now. I have so far only done the easy first steps. 0. I always back up my user files and /etc daily 1. I confirmed that my syst

Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of systemd questions

2013-07-29 Thread Mark David Dumlao
The proper way to figure out what failed to start and why is to use systemctl # list of running services systemctl # status of particular service systemctl status name-of-service Now if your concern is the service loading order, then you're really talking about problems in your unit files, i.e.,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Creating binary packages before updating them

2013-07-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 29/07/13 14:24, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: >> >> On 07/29/2013 01:18 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>> >>> Normally, when I'm about to update an important package, I back it up >>> first using quickpkg. I'm often in a situation though whe

Re: [gentoo-user] Creating binary packages before updating them

2013-07-29 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
or you can make yourself a wrapper script that, depending on an option calls quickpkg before emerge or not. Even better, not calling emerge, but ebuild - with the different steps, and before merging into filesystem, call quickpkg. 2013/7/29 Alan McKinnon > On 29/07/2013 21:46, Neil Bothwick wro

Re: [gentoo-user] SQL Server Advice for Small Business

2013-07-29 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Randy Westlund wrote: > Hey guys, > > I'm planning to set up an SQL server for my dad's small canvas awning > business, and I've never done this before. Most of my sysadmin-type skills > are self-taught. I could use some advice. > Heh, based on the capitalized

[gentoo-user] SQL Server Advice for Small Business

2013-07-29 Thread Randy Westlund
Hey guys, I'm planning to set up an SQL server for my dad's small canvas awning business, and I've never done this before. Most of my sysadmin-type skills are self-taught. I could use some advice. My dad needs infrastructure to allow ~ 15 of his employees to schedule appointments, track orde

Re: [gentoo-user] Creating binary packages before updating them

2013-07-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:21:59 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Add FEATURES="buildpkg" to make.conf... > > That way you'll gradually build up a /usr/portage/packages directory > with a package for everything installed. Or if you don't want to wait > months for that: > > # emerge -eB world It i

Re: [gentoo-user] Creating binary packages before updating them

2013-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/07/2013 21:46, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:21:59 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >>> Add FEATURES="buildpkg" to make.conf... >> >> That way you'll gradually build up a /usr/portage/packages directory >> with a package for everything installed. Or if you don't want to wait

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Creating binary packages before updating them

2013-07-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:45:53 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > I suspect you could also do this by defining a custom src_setup > > function in /etc/portage/bashrc - FEATURES="buildpkg" is a lot less > > hassle unless you are really tight on disk space. > > Too big a hammer. I suppose the ans

[gentoo-user] Re: Gallium and nVidia

2013-07-29 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 29/07/13 18:38, András Csányi wrote: Hi All, I would like to some clarification to support my feeling regarding gallium related use flags in mesa package. For some reason I have to rebuild a few packages on my machine and xorg-server and mesa are among them. I experienced that if the "xorg"

Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of systemd questions

2013-07-29 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 6:11 AM, wrote: > > I want to -- at least in initial testing -- have systemd not try to do > > things in parallell -- one at a time is very nice -- I even have openrc > > configured that way. Any way to do this? > > No if you don't use --co

Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of systemd questions

2013-07-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 6:11 AM, wrote: > I want to -- at least in initial testing -- have systemd not try to do > things in parallell -- one at a time is very nice -- I even have openrc > configured that way. Any way to do this? No if you don't use --confirm-spawn AFAIK; the whole parallel sta

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [~amd64] Some possibly (?) helpful hints re the big gnome-3.8 update

2013-07-29 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 3:28 AM, Mark Pariente wrote: > On Sun, 2013-07-28 at 11:16 -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Michael Hampicke wrote: >> > Am 28.07.2013 10:07, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: >> >> Am 28.07.2013 10:04, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: >> >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] Gallium and nVidia

2013-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/07/2013 17:38, András Csányi wrote: > Hi All, > > I would like to some clarification to support my feeling regarding > gallium related use flags in mesa package. > > For some reason I have to rebuild a few packages on my machine and > xorg-server and mesa are among them. I experienced that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Creating binary packages before updating them

2013-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/07/2013 16:56, Mick wrote: > On Monday 29 Jul 2013 13:07:44 Dale wrote: >> Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>> On 29/07/13 14:35, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:18:03 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Normally, when I'm about to update an important package, I back it up > f

[gentoo-user] Gallium and nVidia

2013-07-29 Thread András Csányi
Hi All, I would like to some clarification to support my feeling regarding gallium related use flags in mesa package. For some reason I have to rebuild a few packages on my machine and xorg-server and mesa are among them. I experienced that if the "xorg" USE flag of mesa is enabled then I got com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Creating binary packages before updating them

2013-07-29 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: > On Monday 29 Jul 2013 13:07:44 Dale wrote: >> >> >> If you set buildpkg in make.conf, you should already have a binary >> stored. Example. You do a install with buildpkg in make.conf. From >> that point on, when you do a update or new package install it stores a >> binary package f

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Creating binary packages before updating them

2013-07-29 Thread Mick
On Monday 29 Jul 2013 13:07:44 Dale wrote: > Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > On 29/07/13 14:35, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:18:03 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >>> Normally, when I'm about to update an important package, I back it up > >>> first using quickpkg. I'm often in a

Re: [gentoo-user] Creating binary packages before updating them

2013-07-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 29 Jul 2013 07:27:23 Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-07-29 7:18 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > Normally, when I'm about to update an important package, I back it up > > first using quickpkg. I'm often in a situation though where many > > important packages are being updated in a world upda

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Creating binary packages before updating them

2013-07-29 Thread Dale
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 29/07/13 14:35, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:18:03 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> >>> Normally, when I'm about to update an important package, I back it up >>> first using quickpkg. I'm often in a situation though where many >>> important package

[gentoo-user] Re: Creating binary packages before updating them

2013-07-29 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 29/07/13 14:35, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:18:03 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Normally, when I'm about to update an important package, I back it up first using quickpkg. I'm often in a situation though where many important packages are being updated in a world update. N

[gentoo-user] Re: Creating binary packages before updating them

2013-07-29 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 29/07/13 14:27, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-07-29 7:18 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Normally, when I'm about to update an important package, I back it up first using quickpkg. I'm often in a situation though where many important packages are being updated in a world update. Normally, I have t

Re: [gentoo-user] Creating binary packages before updating them

2013-07-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:18:03 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Normally, when I'm about to update an important package, I back it up > first using quickpkg. I'm often in a situation though where many > important packages are being updated in a world update. Normally, I > have to manually quic

[gentoo-user] Re: Creating binary packages before updating them

2013-07-29 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 29/07/13 14:24, Raffaele BELARDI wrote: On 07/29/2013 01:18 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Normally, when I'm about to update an important package, I back it up first using quickpkg. I'm often in a situation though where many important packages are being updated in a world update. Normally, I

Re: [gentoo-user] Creating binary packages before updating them

2013-07-29 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-07-29 7:18 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Normally, when I'm about to update an important package, I back it up first using quickpkg. I'm often in a situation though where many important packages are being updated in a world update. Normally, I have to manually quickpkg every one of them

Re: [gentoo-user] Creating binary packages before updating them

2013-07-29 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
On 07/29/2013 01:18 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Normally, when I'm about to update an important package, I back it up > first using quickpkg. I'm often in a situation though where many > important packages are being updated in a world update. Normally, I > have to manually quickpkg every one o

[gentoo-user] Creating binary packages before updating them

2013-07-29 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Normally, when I'm about to update an important package, I back it up first using quickpkg. I'm often in a situation though where many important packages are being updated in a world update. Normally, I have to manually quickpkg every one of them. Is there a way to tell emerge to do this on

[gentoo-user] a couple of systemd questions

2013-07-29 Thread covici
I want to -- at least in initial testing -- have systemd not try to do things in parallell -- one at a time is very nice -- I even have openrc configured that way. Any way to do this? Also, I do want an interactive boot like the I -- is confirm-spawn the way to do this? Thanks in advance for any

[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-07-29 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 28/07/13 11:22, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Basically, systemd is now a first class citizen in Gentoo (on par with OpenRC) This is great. Thanks to everyone involved! Does someone know whether a KDE system can work reliably with systemd, or there still issues?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [~amd64] Some possibly (?) helpful hints re the big gnome-3.8 update

2013-07-29 Thread Mick
On Sunday 28 Jul 2013 17:16:55 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Michael Hampicke wrote: > > Am 28.07.2013 10:07, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > >> Am 28.07.2013 10:04, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > >>> The only "special" thing I'm doing is to mask >sys-apps/systemd-2

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [~amd64] Some possibly (?) helpful hints re the big gnome-3.8 update

2013-07-29 Thread Mark Pariente
On Sun, 2013-07-28 at 11:16 -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Michael Hampicke wrote: > > Am 28.07.2013 10:07, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > >> Am 28.07.2013 10:04, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > >> > >>> The only "special" thing I'm doing is to mask >sys-apps/