Re: [gentoo-user] any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-30 Thread R0b0t1
I don't have time to catch up on the whole thread yet, but https://neo900.org/ should be interesting. The older n900 phone is quite open as well. Both [will] run an operating system called Maemo. The neo900 solves some of the issues in current phones like the modem sharing memory space with the ma

Re: [gentoo-user] any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-30 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 11:28:18PM -0500, Dale wrote > What version of Firefox are you using? I've seen some changes made > to Firefox but nothing that drastic. I'm just curious if maybe I'm > still running a older not affected version. > > My reason for asking. I'm volunteer on staff at a soc

Re: [gentoo-user] any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 11:42 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > Linux is a desktop OS. I hope it remains that way. Uh, Linux is a kernel, and even GNU is really a collection of shell-oriented tools, which can be run from Android just fine. So Android IS Linux, at least as much as Gentoo is, or your

[gentoo-user] Re: any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-30 Thread »Q«
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 06:36:10 -0400 "Walter Dnes" wrote: > On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 11:28:18PM -0500, Dale wrote > > If something ugly and nasty is coming, I need to start figuring out > > what I can do to work around this or something else to use. > > I don't know your definition of ugly; ever

[gentoo-user] Re: any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-30 Thread James
Rich Freeman gentoo.org> writes: > > Linux is a desktop OS. I hope it remains that way. Wow. I think of linux first as a bloated (but good) minimal OS. It's only when yhou add stuff that you get a server or a desktop. Folks have forgotten about 'kernel tuning'. I have deglected the linux ker

Re: [gentoo-user] any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-30 Thread Jc García
2015-06-29 14:14 GMT-06:00 behrouz khosravi : > > I know what you mean. This is all more or less true, but what can we do in > this situation? > I will try to move toward whatever promotes openness, and please do not tell > me that ubuntu > is not more open that android. In android I cant even have

Google / Oracle / Java / etc (was: [gentoo-user] Re: any one using ubuntu phones?)

2015-06-30 Thread gottlieb
On Tue, Jun 30 2015, James wrote: > I think I just heard a news report that Google lost a long term > legal/financial battle with Oracle over java. It seems now that google > (android and any thing that uses java) is going to have to pay > Oracle some 'pal_a_monies' ? Or did I here that wrong? >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-30 Thread Jc García
2015-06-30 8:28 GMT-06:00 »Q« : > On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 06:36:10 -0400 > "Walter Dnes" wrote: >> They've removed text from the "File Edit View etc..." >> menu. Instead, they've inserted a bunch of heiroglyphics/icons. > > The old-school, drop-down, text-only menu bar can be unhidden via a > checkbo

Re: Google / Oracle / Java / etc (was: [gentoo-user] Re: any one using ubuntu phones?)

2015-06-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 11:37 AM, wrote: > On Tue, Jun 30 2015, James wrote: > >> I think I just heard a news report that Google lost a long term >> legal/financial battle with Oracle over java. It seems now that google >> (android and any thing that uses java) is going to have to pay >> Oracle s

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 11:16 AM, James wrote: > > Folks have forgotten about 'kernel tuning'. I have deglected the linux > kernel quite a bit of late, mostly do to the rabid frequency and > non-sense (useless) chances being advanced. I have decided to only > update to 'long term support' kernels.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 12:37:14 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > The easiest way to stick with a branch is probably to just mask > anything newer. Then you should get all new releases of that branch > until it is dropped. However, I'm not sure how noisy portage will be > if your branch is discontinued.

Re: [gentoo-user] any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-30 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 09:42:58PM +0100, john wrote: > behrouz khosravi wrote: > > > > If you build/install Android on a device, then it only contains what > > > you put there, and you can just as easily remove it. If you let > > > somebody else build/install android on a device and not give y

Re: [gentoo-user] any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-30 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 07:46:59PM +0200, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Jolla do a phone which is Linux based. No idea if this would suit your > > needs but may be worth a look. It's GUI is good and it uses Wayland. > > Not sure how open it is! > > I second Jolla. > FWIW, I consider buying one my

[gentoo-user] Google calendar notifications in XFCE?

2015-06-30 Thread Grant Edwards
I've done a bit of googling trying to figure out how to get Google calendar notifications to display on an XFCE desktop, and haven't found much. I've found a few descriptions of how to get notifications using Gnome Shell or Evolution [don't have/want], and how to get notifications when you have th

[gentoo-user] Re: Google calendar notifications in XFCE?

2015-06-30 Thread walt
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 18:19:38 + (UTC) Grant Edwards wrote: > I've done a bit of googling trying to figure out how to get Google > calendar notifications to display on an XFCE desktop, and haven't > found much. > > I've found a few descriptions of how to get notifications using Gnome > Shell o

[gentoo-user] Re: Google calendar notifications in XFCE?

2015-06-30 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-06-30, walt wrote: > Maybe app-office/orage would do what you need, not sure. Orage will pop up reminders for calendar events, but when I looked through the orage web pages I didn't see anything about syncing to Google calendar. I should probably do some more looking into that. -- Gran

[gentoo-user] Re: any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-30 Thread walt
On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 09:28:16 -0500 »Q« wrote: > The old-school, drop-down, text-only menu bar can be unhidden via a > checkbox in the 'customize' dialog. It's been hidden by default since > well before Australis. Thank you :) I never noticed the 'customize' dialog and I probably never would ha

Re: [gentoo-user] any one using ubuntu phones?

2015-06-30 Thread Bruce Schultz
On 30 June 2015 1:44:24 AM AEST, behrouz khosravi wrote: >> >> It sounds like your problem isn't with Android (which is mostly FOSS >- >> or at least the parts you're dealing with here are), but with the >> bootloader on your phone (which is proprietary). >> > >No, actually my problem is that wh

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: is purchasing a usb blu ray a good idea?

2015-06-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 23:15:26 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > That's because most distros, and all top quality cover discs, use > > hybrid ISO images that avoid the pain associated with the likes > > of Unetbootin. > > If you run across one that doesn't work, you do ***NOT*** need to > screw aro