Re: [gentoo-user] Why do we add the local host name to the 127.0.0.1 / ::1 entry in the /etc/hosts file?

2021-02-24 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/25/21 12:02 AM, Arve Barsnes wrote: I don't think that was the question Peter sought to answer, but rather that 'hostname -i' returns the loopback address either way. But 'hostname -i' /doesn't/ return the 127.0.0.1 or ::1 if the hostname isn't on lines with 127.0.0.1 or ::1. Might

Re: [gentoo-user] Why do we add the local host name to the 127.0.0.1 / ::1 entry in the /etc/hosts file?

2021-02-24 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 at 03:50, Grant Taylor wrote: > > The loopback address is just that: the machine talking to itself, with > > no reference to the outside world. Whereas, while talking to other > > machines on the network its address is that of the interface. There's > > no connection between

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-24 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/24/21 9:16 PM, John Covici wrote: The portdir has to be the one gotten from git, not rsync, ACK I'm currently doing an "emerge -DUNe @system" on the restore of /usr/portage (typical PORTDIR) from prior to messing with things today. I've got multiple GB of git data. It looks like

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-24 Thread John Covici
On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 21:20:05 -0500, Grant Taylor wrote: > > On 2/24/21 6:48 PM, John Covici wrote: > > What you could try to do, if you are syncing using git, is to > > roll it back to those dates by checking out a commit each time > > and doing an update. I don't guarantee it would work, but

Re: [gentoo-user] Why do we add the local host name to the 127.0.0.1 / ::1 entry in the /etc/hosts file?

2021-02-24 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/24/21 7:37 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: Isn't it a matter of simple logic? No. It is not. Consider my question to be calling the logic into question. Or at least asking for what the logic was to be explained. The loopback address is just that: the machine talking to itself, with no

Re: [gentoo-user] Why do we add the local host name to the 127.0.0.1 / ::1 entry in the /etc/hosts file?

2021-02-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 21 February 2021 22:23:00 GMT Grant Taylor wrote: > Hi, > > I'm reading Kerberos - The Definitive Guide[1] and it makes the > > following comment: > > And to make matters worse, some Unix systems map their own hostname > > to 127.0.0.1 (the loopback IP address). > > This makes me

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-24 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/24/21 6:48 PM, John Covici wrote: What you could try to do, if you are syncing using git, is to roll it back to those dates by checking out a commit each time and doing an update. I don't guarantee it would work, but its worth a shot, otherwise reinstall time. I hit send too soon.

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-24 Thread Grant Taylor
On 2/24/21 6:48 PM, John Covici wrote: What you could try to do, if you are syncing using git, is to roll it back to those dates by checking out a commit each time and doing an update. I don't guarantee it would work, but its worth a shot, otherwise reinstall time. And what if I was still

Re: [gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-24 Thread John Covici
On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 20:43:39 -0500, Grant Taylor wrote: > > I need to update a system that hasn't been updated in 337 days > (March 24th 2020. -- Life has been ... trying. > > What is the best way forward? > > It seems as if there have been a lot of changes in the interim; > glibc, Python

[gentoo-user] What is the best way forward?

2021-02-24 Thread Grant Taylor
I need to update a system that hasn't been updated in 337 days (March 24th 2020. -- Life has been ... trying. What is the best way forward? It seems as if there have been a lot of changes in the interim; glibc, Python 2.7 being deprecated, default Python going to 3.7(?), other breaking