Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 12 July 2011 04:27:18 Volker Armin Hemmann did opine thusly: > On Monday 11 July 2011 23:43:06 Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Monday 11 July 2011 17:26:36 Sebastian Beßler wrote: > > > Am Mo 11 Jul 2011 17:18:16 CEST, Peter Humphrey schrieb: > > > > I doubt I shall ever accept 'reoccur',

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Monday 11 July 2011 23:43:06 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday 11 July 2011 17:26:36 Sebastian Beßler wrote: > > Am Mo 11 Jul 2011 17:18:16 CEST, Peter Humphrey schrieb: > > > I doubt I shall ever accept 'reoccur', any more than I accept > > > 'transportation'. > > > > It's way OT but what is w

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-11 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 07/11/2011 07:40 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 23:43:06 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> It isn't wrong, it's just silly. Americans love to add '-ation' to >> everything. Just consider 'motivation', for example. It nearly always >> means 'motive'. Ditto 'medication', which is

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 23:43:06 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > It isn't wrong, it's just silly. Americans love to add '-ation' to > everything. Just consider 'motivation', for example. It nearly always > means 'motive'. Ditto 'medication', which is nearly always 'medicine'. > I could go on all night

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 00:09:42 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > But an admitted pedantic response deserves a reply from the OED :P > > ...which is no more than an observer of trends. It offers precious > little help in what one ought to do. Isn't that how language develops, through trends? My po

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 11 July 2011 22:01:02 Neil Bothwick wrote: > But an admitted pedantic response deserves a reply from the OED :P ...which is no more than an observer of trends. It offers precious little help in what one ought to do. A few years ago our Queen uttered a solecism (well, it had to happen

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 11 July 2011 17:26:36 Sebastian Beßler wrote: > Am Mo 11 Jul 2011 17:18:16 CEST, Peter Humphrey schrieb: > > I doubt I shall ever accept 'reoccur', any more than I accept > > 'transportation'. > > It's way OT but what is wrong with 'transportation'. > If it is wrong, how would it be righ

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:18:16 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > From the OED: > > > > reoccur: occur again or habitually > > I don't regard myself bound by others' ability to find earlier examples > of the same mistake. We have 'occur', 'incur', 'concur' and 'recur'. It > is rarely a good idea t

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-11 Thread Bill Longman
On 07/11/2011 09:26 AM, Sebastian Beßler wrote: > Am Mo 11 Jul 2011 17:18:16 CEST, Peter Humphrey schrieb: > >> I doubt I shall ever accept 'reoccur', any more than I accept >> 'transportation'. > > It's way OT but what is wrong with 'transportation'. > If it is wrong, how would it be right? > I

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-11 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am Mo 11 Jul 2011 17:18:16 CEST, Peter Humphrey schrieb: > I doubt I shall ever accept 'reoccur', any more than I accept > 'transportation'. It's way OT but what is wrong with 'transportation'. If it is wrong, how would it be right? I'm not a native speaker so I might be blind to see the error.

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 11 July 2011 10:10:41 Neil Bothwick wrote: > From the OED: > > reoccur: occur again or habitually I don't regard myself bound by others' ability to find earlier examples of the same mistake. We have 'occur', 'incur', 'concur' and 'recur'. It is rarely a good idea to compound prefixes

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:26:37 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > it my get rid of the problem temporarily but you still have no idea of > > what the problem was or what to do should it reoccur. > > s/reoccur/recur/ > > Speaking as one old pedant to another... From the OED: reoccur: occur again

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-10 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 10 July 2011 19:38:34 Neil Bothwick wrote: > it my get rid of the problem temporarily but you still have no idea of > what the problem was or what to do should it reoccur. s/reoccur/recur/ Speaking as one old pedant to another... -- Rgds Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 09:31:45 -0400, Albert Hopkins wrote: > > I wasn't suggesting that. But when the main reason for sticking with > > the > > older option is that you have a working system with data in it, the > > loss > > of both of those is a good time to investigate the newer > > alternative.

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-09 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Saturday, July 9 at 12:22 (+0100), Neil Bothwick said: > I wasn't suggesting that. But when the main reason for sticking with > the > older option is that you have a working system with data in it, the > loss > of both of those is a good time to investigate the newer alternative. I see. I g

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 06:22:55 -0400, Albert Hopkins wrote: > > Fair enough, except this thread is about encfs not working :( > > Unfortunately. But that's not to say "encfs doesn't work". When I have > a problem with a bash script, I don't just up and switch to zsh :P I wasn't suggesting that

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-09 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Saturday, July 9 at 08:39 (+0100), Neil Bothwick said: > Fair enough, except this thread is about encfs not working :( Unfortunately. But that's not to say "encfs doesn't work". When I have a problem with a bash script, I don't just up and switch to zsh :P (although I hear people do such t

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 19:40:58 -0400, Albert Hopkins wrote: > > Apart from the need to access legacy data, which Harry has resolved by > > reformatting, is there any benefit in using encfs rather than the > > in-kernel ecryptfs these days? > > Admittedly there isn't much difference, so if what you

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-08 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Friday, July 8 at 22:50 (+0100), Neil Bothwick said: > Apart from the need to access legacy data, which Harry has resolved by > reformatting, is there any benefit in using encfs rather than the > in-kernel ecryptfs these days? Admittedly there isn't much difference, so if what you are using

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 14:35:55 -0400, Albert Hopkins wrote: > Having said that: > One of encfs's Achilles heel is its dependency on the boost C++ library > which is *very* sensitive wrt to API/ABI changes and the like. It also > depends on OpenSSL which also shares this notoriety (although, in my >

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-08 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Friday, July 8 at 11:55 (-0500), Harry Putnam said: [..] > Somehow I managed to really hurt the installation ... here is what I > remember having done: > > Some how I got mixed up when running as root, and attempted to mount a > users encfs directory. (Its a single user machine so it my use

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-08 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: > > Maybe encfs keeps data somewhere that I can delete and make this go > away?  But a `qlist encfs', listing all that got installed doesn't show > anything like that. I've never used encfs, but maybe strace will show you if it's accessing file

[gentoo-user] [OT encfs] When encfs gets hungup

2011-07-08 Thread Harry Putnam
Sorry about the OT, I couldn't raise a stir on the encfs group in several days... I'm hoping someone here is experienced with encfs. Actually I'm somewhat experienced with it myself. I've been keeping encfs directory for yrs now for special stuff. Somehow I managed to really hurt the installatio