Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-13 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 09:50:02PM +0100, pk wrote > So udev-181 (masked) is ok to use without initrd and separate /usr > then? Thanks for the info! I believe that 180 or 181 is the first version that requires /usr on / (or an initramfs or whatever). And that's why it's currently masked. --

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-12 Thread Jorge Martínez López
Hello! 2012/3/11 Canek Peláez Valdés : >> The next step was to remove /usr from /etc/fstab to prevent /usr from >> being mounted twice (the boot process does not like it). > > Mmmh. Could you try to use LABEL= in /etc/fstab (not /etc/fstab), and > see if that way it gets mounted, and only once? T

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
2012/3/11 Jorge Martínez López : > Hi! > > I had some struggle with a separate /usr on top of LVM and the dracut > thing. I noticed that udev was complaining at boot that it could not > find some scripts. > > The usmount dracut module did not work for me because it could not > find /usr. So what I

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-11 Thread Jorge Martínez López
Hi! I had some struggle with a separate /usr on top of LVM and the dracut thing. I noticed that udev was complaining at boot that it could not find some scripts. The usmount dracut module did not work for me because it could not find /usr. So what I did was to include the fstab-sys smodule in dra

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-11 Thread pk
On 2012-03-11 03:36, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > "This news item is to inform you that once you upgrade to a version of > udev >=181, if you have /usr on a separate partition, you must boot your > system with an initramfs which pre-mounts /usr. Ok, I thank both you and Neil for this info. In hin

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread John Blinka
-- Sent from my Palm Pre On Mar 10, 2012 10:38 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 11:58:18 +0100, pk wrote: > Btw, does anyone know which version of udev requires access to /usr? I'm > running latest stable here 171-r5 and I have separate partitions for > /

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 2:50 PM, pk wrote: > On 2012-03-10 16:35, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> I'm using the latest testing with a separate /usr and no problems. > > So udev-181 (masked) is ok to use without initrd and separate /usr > then? Thanks for the info! Just posted to -devel, the news item r

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 21:50:02 +0100, pk wrote: > > I'm using the latest testing with a separate /usr and no problems. > > So udev-181 (masked) is ok to use without initrd and separate /usr > then? Thanks for the info! testing, not masked. Although it turns out that the latest in ~amd64 is the s

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Dale
Todd Goodman wrote: > * Dale [120309 21:55]: >> Howdy, >> > [..] >> [0.787822] Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs... > > It found your initramfs... > >> [0.867787] Freeing initrd memory: 5084k freed > > The followng look like they're from your Dracut initramfs > >> [0.88011

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 2:50 PM, pk wrote: > On 2012-03-10 16:35, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> I'm using the latest testing with a separate /usr and no problems. > > So udev-181 (masked) is ok to use without initrd and separate /usr > then? Thanks for the info! That's one case; I would not take it f

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread pk
On 2012-03-10 16:35, Neil Bothwick wrote: > I'm using the latest testing with a separate /usr and no problems. So udev-181 (masked) is ok to use without initrd and separate /usr then? Thanks for the info! Best regards Peter K

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Todd Goodman
* Dale [120309 21:55]: > Howdy, > [..] > [0.787822] Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs... It found your initramfs... > [0.867787] Freeing initrd memory: 5084k freed The followng look like they're from your Dracut initramfs > [0.880111] audit: initializing netlink socket (d

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 11:58:18 +0100, pk wrote: > Btw, does anyone know which version of udev requires access to /usr? I'm > running latest stable here 171-r5 and I have separate partitions for > /home /opt /usr /usr/local /tmp /var, all on LVM and /boot on a separate > partition outside of LVM, and

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 04:30:41 -0600, Dale wrote: > >>> I've seen that if you switch to ~arch and make wholesale USE flag >>> changes. I think I avoided most of it by switching arch, doing emerge >>> -e system or world and then changing USE flags. > >> I even tried USE="-*" e

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sat, 2012-03-10 at 03:45 -0600, Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:03:44 -0600, Dale wrote: > > > >> Well, that is one of the things I want to change. I have several > >> reasons for wanting to change this mess. One is a file system change > >> and the other is to u

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread pk
On 2012-03-10 03:48, Dale wrote: > Howdy, Howdy! > this? I'm thinking about redoing my partition layout. I'm wanting to > keep / (root) on a normal ext4 file system. I want to put /usr, /var, As long as you don't use the udev version that requires access to /usr at boot time (or mdev) then yo

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 04:30:41 -0600, Dale wrote: > > I've seen that if you switch to ~arch and make wholesale USE flag > > changes. I think I avoided most of it by switching arch, doing emerge > > -e system or world and then changing USE flags. > I even tried USE="-*" emerge -e system and it just

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:45:53 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> I decided to do a fresh install on the larger drive. I sort of like to >> brush up every once in a while. I got to the point where I want to do a >> emerge -e system then copy my world file over and finish it up. It >>

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:45:53 -0600, Dale wrote: > I decided to do a fresh install on the larger drive. I sort of like to > brush up every once in a while. I got to the point where I want to do a > emerge -e system then copy my world file over and finish it up. It > appears that the stage3 tarba

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:45:53 -0600, Dale wrote: > I'm going to try to beat some sense into this a while longer then I'm > going to bed, right after rm -rfv /mnt/gentoo/* is started. ;-) What's the point in using -v if you're not there to watch it? ;-) -- Neil Bothwick Documentation: (n.) a n

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:03:44 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> Well, that is one of the things I want to change. I have several >> reasons for wanting to change this mess. One is a file system change >> and the other is to use LVM for stuff. I basically want LVM for >> everything b

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:03:44 -0600, Dale wrote: > Well, that is one of the things I want to change. I have several > reasons for wanting to change this mess. One is a file system change > and the other is to use LVM for stuff. I basically want LVM for > everything but root itself and /boot of c

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-09 Thread Dale
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Dale wrote: >> Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >>> I keep my /usr partition in /, but seeing the modules from dracut, the >>> "magic" happens at: >>> >>> /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98usrmount/mount-usr.sh >>> >>> Basically, it seems that i

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-09 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Dale wrote: > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> I keep my /usr partition in /, but seeing the modules from dracut, the >> "magic" happens at: >> >> /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98usrmount/mount-usr.sh >> >> Basically, it seems that if /usr is specified in /etc/fstab, th

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-09 Thread Dale
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > I keep my /usr partition in /, but seeing the modules from dracut, the > "magic" happens at: > > /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98usrmount/mount-usr.sh > > Basically, it seems that if /usr is specified in /etc/fstab, then > dracut will mount it. It says nothing about LVM,

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-09 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > Well, this is what I am thinking about jumping into.  Ya'll ready for > this?  I'm thinking about redoing my partition layout.  I'm wanting to > keep / (root) on a normal ext4 file system.  I want to put /usr, /var, > /home, and such on LVM.

[gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.

2012-03-09 Thread Dale
Howdy, Well, this is what I am thinking about jumping into. Ya'll ready for this? I'm thinking about redoing my partition layout. I'm wanting to keep / (root) on a normal ext4 file system. I want to put /usr, /var, /home, and such on LVM. I been using that dracut thingy to build the init thin