J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 01, 2014 04:21:45 AM Dale wrote:
>>
>> I watched the dd process when I was erasing the old drive. I got about
>> the same results. It started out a little over 200 and went as low as
>> 170 or so close to the end. On average, about what hdparm shows. Close
On 01/07/2014 07:52, Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 29 Jun 2014 13:05:04 Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Dale wrote:
>>> What if I copied data to the drive until it was just about full. I'm
>>> thinking like maybe 90 or 95% or so. If I do that and run the test
>>> every few day
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 2:09 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 01, 2014 06:52:10 AM Mick wrote:
>>
>> What triggers a relocation? I also have a drive which shows a sector
>> relocation pending, but for a few days now and after some tests that showed
>> no errors, it won't relocate it.
>
>
On Tuesday, July 01, 2014 04:21:45 AM Dale wrote:
> J. Roeleveld wrote:
> >>> root@fireball / # hdparm -tT /dev/sdb
> >>>
> >>> /dev/sdb:
> >>> Timing cached reads: 6604 MB in 2.00 seconds = 3303.39 MB/sec
> >>> Timing buffered disk reads: 542 MB in 3.01 seconds = 180.33 MB/sec
> >>>
> >>>
J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 01, 2014 11:06:59 AM Helmut Jarausch wrote:
>> On 07/01/2014 10:58:45 AM, Dale wrote:
>> Probably not. All of my external USB3 disks have a separate power
>> supply.
> I only know of 2.5" USB-drivers that are powered via the same USB-cable.
> Never seen 3.5"
On Tuesday, July 01, 2014 11:06:59 AM Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> On 07/01/2014 10:58:45 AM, Dale wrote:
> > Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> > > On 07/01/2014 10:30:44 AM, Dale wrote:
> > >> I been wanting to get me something external but hadn't got around
> >
> > to
> >
> > >> looking yet. I didn't know
On 07/01/2014 10:58:45 AM, Dale wrote:
Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> On 07/01/2014 10:30:44 AM, Dale wrote:
>>
>> I been wanting to get me something external but hadn't got around
to
>> looking yet. I didn't know they have a SATA version. I plan to
avoid
>> USB if I can. From my understanding,
Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> On 07/01/2014 10:30:44 AM, Dale wrote:
>>
>> I been wanting to get me something external but hadn't got around to
>> looking yet. I didn't know they have a SATA version. I plan to avoid
>> USB if I can. From my understanding, eSATA can be hotplugged and I have
>> a coupl
On Tuesday, July 01, 2014 03:30:44 AM Dale wrote:
> Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:57:55PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> >> I'm just going to try and buy another 3TB drive as soon as I can. I may
> >> even make it into a removable thingy. Then I can make backups and just
> >> put
On 07/01/2014 10:30:44 AM, Dale wrote:
I been wanting to get me something external but hadn't got around to
looking yet. I didn't know they have a SATA version. I plan to avoid
USB if I can. From my understanding, eSATA can be hotplugged and I
have
a couple of those connections.
I 'beli
Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:57:55PM -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>> I'm just going to try and buy another 3TB drive as soon as I can. I may
>> even make it into a removable thingy. Then I can make backups and just
>> put it in a outbuilding. By the way, my outbuilding is prett
J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 01, 2014 06:52:10 AM Mick wrote:
>> On Sunday 29 Jun 2014 13:05:04 Rich Freeman wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Dale wrote:
What if I copied data to the drive until it was just about full. I'm
thinking like maybe 90 or 95% or so. If I
On Tuesday, July 01, 2014 06:52:10 AM Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 29 Jun 2014 13:05:04 Rich Freeman wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Dale wrote:
> > > What if I copied data to the drive until it was just about full. I'm
> > > thinking like maybe 90 or 95% or so. If I do that and run the
On Sunday 29 Jun 2014 13:05:04 Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Dale wrote:
> > What if I copied data to the drive until it was just about full. I'm
> > thinking like maybe 90 or 95% or so. If I do that and run the test
> > every few days, would it then catch a error after
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:57:55PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> I'm just going to try and buy another 3TB drive as soon as I can. I may
> even make it into a removable thingy. Then I can make backups and just
> put it in a outbuilding. By the way, my outbuilding is pretty far from
For such use, I am p
Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Dale wrote:
>> What if I copied data to the drive until it was just about full. I'm
>> thinking like maybe 90 or 95% or so. If I do that and run the test
>> every few days, would it then catch a error after a few weeks or so of
>> testing?
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Dale wrote:
>
> What if I copied data to the drive until it was just about full. I'm
> thinking like maybe 90 or 95% or so. If I do that and run the test
> every few days, would it then catch a error after a few weeks or so of
> testing? I realize no one knows
On Sunday 29 Jun 2014 09:42:39 Dale wrote:
> Mick wrote:
> > On Sunday 29 Jun 2014 05:44:38 Dale wrote:
> >> What if I copied data to the drive until it was just about full. I'm
> >> thinking like maybe 90 or 95% or so. If I do that and run the test
> >> every few days, would it then catch a erro
Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 29 Jun 2014 05:44:38 Dale wrote:
>>
>>
>> What if I copied data to the drive until it was just about full. I'm
>> thinking like maybe 90 or 95% or so. If I do that and run the test
>> every few days, would it then catch a error after a few weeks or so of
>> testing? I rea
On Sunday 29 Jun 2014 05:44:38 Dale wrote:
> Rich Freeman wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:27 PM, Dale wrote:
> >> So, thoughts? Did it mark that part as bad and all is well or is this
> >> going to be trouble down the line? Should I just fill the thing up with
> >> data and test the stuffi
Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:27 PM, Dale wrote:
>> So, thoughts? Did it mark that part as bad and all is well or is this
>> going to be trouble down the line? Should I just fill the thing up with
>> data and test the stuffin out of it to make sure?
>>
> That is pretty typical
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:27 PM, Dale wrote:
>
> So, thoughts? Did it mark that part as bad and all is well or is this
> going to be trouble down the line? Should I just fill the thing up with
> data and test the stuffin out of it to make sure?
>
That is pretty typical. You wrote to every sec
Dale wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> I run this test every once in a while. How bad is this:
>
> root@fireball / # smartctl -l selftest /dev/sdc
> smartctl 6.1 2013-03-16 r3800 [x86_64-linux-3.14.0-gentoo] (local build)
> Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
>
> === STAR
Mick wrote:
> On Friday 27 Jun 2014 21:54:32 Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 14:22:09 +0100, Mick wrote:
>>> I would think that your ISP providers in the US will be blocking
>>> outgoing port 25 to stop compromised MSWindows machines spamming the
>>> rest of us. If you use my suggestio
On Friday 27 Jun 2014 21:54:32 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 14:22:09 +0100, Mick wrote:
> > I would think that your ISP providers in the US will be blocking
> > outgoing port 25 to stop compromised MSWindows machines spamming the
> > rest of us. If you use my suggestion there should
On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 08:48:40 +0100, Mick wrote:
> > > I would think that your ISP providers in the US will be blocking
> > > outgoing port 25 to stop compromised MSWindows machines spamming the
> > > rest of us. If you use my suggestion there shouldn't be a
> > > problem.
> >
> > It makes no d
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 14:22:09 +0100, Mick wrote:
> > You tell cron where to mail reports by setting MAILTO=you@wherever at
> > the top of /etc/crontab. It will then mail you every time a cronjob
> > produces output.
>
> Or complete the /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf and revaliases with the info I
> have
On Thursday 26 Jun 2014 16:08:52 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 09:14:39 -0500, Dale wrote:
> > Holy sheep. It worked. I lost my jaw yesterday I think it was. I'm
> > not sure what I am going to be missing now. :-D Neil and Allan will so
> > impressed. LOL
> >
> > OK. So, what w
On 06/25/2014 08:54 PM, Dale wrote:
> Curious. I hope I don't start a flame war here. I have had WD, Seagate
> and I think there is a Samsung here somewhere, may be the one that is
> rolling over on its back now. The one drive that failed a few years ago
> was a WD drive. That said, all the oth
On 06/26/2014 05:57 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
> Take care of the environmental factors, and statistics fall in your
> favour making the odds good you'll get the life you expect
>
Yep, but sometimes crap just fails for no reason whatsoever. As an
example, my old house had central A/C and never w
Rich Freeman wrote:
> And do check on your warranty. You can migrate all your data to the
> new drive, and then replace the old one as a backup disk. Either use
> it with raid, or as an offline backup. If you want to do raid you can
> set up mdadm with a degraded raid1 so that you can copy your dat
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 09:14:39 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>> Holy sheep. It worked. I lost my jaw yesterday I think it was. I'm
>> not sure what I am going to be missing now. :-D Neil and Allan will so
>> impressed. LOL
>>
>> OK. So, what will send me a message now? Do I nee
On Thu, 26 Jun 2014 09:14:39 -0500, Dale wrote:
> Holy sheep. It worked. I lost my jaw yesterday I think it was. I'm
> not sure what I am going to be missing now. :-D Neil and Allan will so
> impressed. LOL
>
> OK. So, what will send me a message now? Do I need to tell it to send
> me so
Mick wrote:
> On Thursday 26 Jun 2014 06:56:26 Mick wrote:
>> Sort out access rights to 0604
> Oops! Potentially dangerous typo! Should be: "0640" of course.
>
Picking a short one to reply too.
Holy sheep. It worked. I lost my jaw yesterday I think it was. I'm
not sure what I am going to be
Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 26/06/2014 13:20, Dale wrote:
>> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>> My experiences aren't worth much in this case, what I had to deal with
>>> was data center setups where - the power has never gone off for 6
>>> years - the drives never spin down and just keep on turning year after
On 26/06/2014 13:20, Dale wrote:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
>> My experiences aren't worth much in this case, what I had to deal with
>> was data center setups where - the power has never gone off for 6
>> years - the drives never spin down and just keep on turning year after
>> year - the servers were
Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 7:03 AM, Dale wrote:
>> I'm thinking of something tho. Btrfs. While I have a new drive with no
>> file system on it, it's a good time to think on switching from LVM.
>> Hmmm. I'm currently on gentoo-sources 3.14.
> I think btrfs is usable, but
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 7:03 AM, Dale wrote:
> I'm thinking of something tho. Btrfs. While I have a new drive with no
> file system on it, it's a good time to think on switching from LVM.
> Hmmm. I'm currently on gentoo-sources 3.14.
I think btrfs is usable, but not without its problems.
Alan McKinnon wrote:
> My experiences aren't worth much in this case, what I had to deal with
> was data center setups where - the power has never gone off for 6
> years - the drives never spin down and just keep on turning year after
> year - the servers were the nice big ones Dell makes with awes
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 21:15:54 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>> I like this part:
>>
>> "Extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to a Mailhub"
>>
>> ^ That part right up there. :-D That may be a new thread, if
>> needed.
> My first thought was "even Dale can't have prob
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 22:54:35 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>> Curious. I hope I don't start a flame war here. I have had WD, Seagate
>> and I think there is a Samsung here somewhere, may be the one that is
>> rolling over on its back now. The one drive that failed a few years ago
>
On 26/06/2014 05:54, Dale wrote:
> Curious. I hope I don't start a flame war here. I have had WD, Seagate
> and I think there is a Samsung here somewhere, may be the one that is
> rolling over on its back now. The one drive that failed a few years ago
> was a WD drive. That said, all the other
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 21:15:54 -0500, Dale wrote:
> I like this part:
>
> "Extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to a Mailhub"
>
> ^ That part right up there. :-D That may be a new thread, if
> needed.
My first thought was "even Dale can't have problems with that".
I soon reco
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 22:54:35 -0500, Dale wrote:
> Curious. I hope I don't start a flame war here. I have had WD, Seagate
> and I think there is a Samsung here somewhere, may be the one that is
> rolling over on its back now. The one drive that failed a few years ago
> was a WD drive. That said
Hello,
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014, Dale wrote:
>David Haller wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014, Dale wrote:
>> Yeah. Oh, and I had a "clean" smart until a few days ago, luckily I
>> alread had a WD Red (WD40EFRX) drive waiting when this attrib jumped
>> from 0 to: 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 087 087 036 P
On Thursday 26 Jun 2014 06:56:26 Mick wrote:
> Sort out access rights to 0604
Oops! Potentially dangerous typo! Should be: "0640" of course.
--
Regards,
Mick
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On Thursday 26 Jun 2014 03:15:54 Dale wrote:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >> I have to say, I dread setting up a mail server about as bad as I dread
> >> going to the Doctor. It's just something I really don't want to add to
> >> my system unless I have to.
> >
> > Which is why I suggesting something
Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Dale wrote:
>> Rich Freeman wrote:
>> I don't have anything on the cloud to backup too. That would likely be
>> a good idea but I can't afford anything pricey, which is why I hadn't
>> bought a backup drive before now either. Plus, somethin
Daniel Frey wrote:
> On 06/25/2014 10:44 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> Like I said, I'm certainly interested in any actual data that supports
>> that drives sold to run 24x7 last any longer than desktop drives when
>> run 24x7.
>>
> Anecdotal, but...
>
> In 2008 I bought four 24x7 drives (500GB) and e
J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 01:44:23 PM Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
ANY hard drive can fail the day
after you buy it, a month after you buy it, and so on, though
obviously the probability of a particular dri
David Haller wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014, Dale wrote:
> Yeah. Oh, and I had a "clean" smart until a few days ago, luckily I
> alread had a WD Red (WD40EFRX) drive waiting when this attrib jumped
> from 0 to: 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 087 087 036 Pre-fail Always
> 17688 Other Seagat
Bill Kenworthy wrote:
> On 26/06/14 06:16, Dale wrote:
>> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:44:48 +0100, Mick wrote:
>>>
> Install a simple forwarding MTA like ssmtp to have all mails from cron
> and friends sent to your ISP mailbox.
... and when you find out please tel
Neil Bothwick wrote:
>
>> I have to say, I dread setting up a mail server about as bad as I dread
>> going to the Doctor. It's just something I really don't want to add to
>> my system unless I have to.
> Which is why I suggesting something like ssmtp, which you can't call a
> server, it just for
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Dale wrote:
> Rich Freeman wrote:
> I don't have anything on the cloud to backup too. That would likely be
> a good idea but I can't afford anything pricey, which is why I hadn't
> bought a backup drive before now either. Plus, something I'd prefer to
> keep und
Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Dale wrote:
>> I'm going to bet this drive is out of warranty. I'm pretty sure it is
>> over 2 years since I bought it.
>>
>> Once I replace that drive, I'll dd the thing and see what it does then.
>> It'll either break it or give me a fresh
Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Dale wrote:
>> What I really need to do, set up a RAID or some other backup method so
>> that even if this happens again, I don't risk losing anything. Then
>> again, that will take time as well. Also takes money.
> Keep in mind that RAID is
On 06/25/2014 10:44 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>
> Like I said, I'm certainly interested in any actual data that supports
> that drives sold to run 24x7 last any longer than desktop drives when
> run 24x7.
>
Anecdotal, but...
In 2008 I bought four 24x7 drives (500GB) and eight regular drives to be
Hello,
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014, Dale wrote:
>thegeezer wrote:
>> On 06/25/2014 08:49 AM, Dale wrote:
>>> Device Model: ST3000DM001-9YN166
I have (had sort of) the same disc, with the same FW.
>>> see the following Seagate web pages:
>>> http://knowledge.seagate.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/207931en
>>
On 26/06/14 06:16, Dale wrote:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:44:48 +0100, Mick wrote:
>>
Install a simple forwarding MTA like ssmtp to have all mails from cron
and friends sent to your ISP mailbox.
>>> ... and when you find out please tell us:
>>>
>
> What I really
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:16:17 -0500, Dale wrote:
> >>> Install a simple forwarding MTA like ssmtp to have all mails from
> >>> cron and friends sent to your ISP mailbox.
> I have to say, I dread setting up a mail server about as bad as I dread
> going to the Doctor. It's just something I really
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Dale wrote:
> What I really need to do, set up a RAID or some other backup method so
> that even if this happens again, I don't risk losing anything. Then
> again, that will take time as well. Also takes money.
Keep in mind that RAID is more about speed of recov
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:44:48 +0100, Mick wrote:
>
>>> Install a simple forwarding MTA like ssmtp to have all mails from cron
>>> and friends sent to your ISP mailbox.
>> ... and when you find out please tell us:
>>
>> 1) What syntax is appropriate to allow the use of mail a
On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 01:44:23 PM Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
> >> ANY hard drive can fail the day
> >>
> >> after you buy it, a month after you buy it, and so on, though
> >> obviously the probability of a particular drive failing at any poin
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> so without looking that drive up - you are using a desktop part for
> non-stop setup?
If I recall correctly, the last drive that died was a more expensive
type of drive, intended for a server setup. So far, the "cheaper"
drives are the ones that have lasted until I
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
>
> You're going to want to cron a 'scrub' and have it email you. There's no
> background daemon that I'm aware of to handle this. ZFS just introduced
> 'zed' and it would be nice if BTRFS would do the same
Actually, I think that for seriou
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 7:03 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> I don't think anybody makes a monitor for btrfs, though my boot is
> mirrored across all my btrfs drives using mdadm so a drive failure
> should be detected in any case. I need to check up on that, though -
> I'd like an email if something g
On 25/06/2014 17:30, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> Rich Freeman wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 6:55 AM, thegeezer wrote:
>>> On 06/25/2014 11:05 AM, Dale wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I got a drive picked out at Newegg.
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148844
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
wrote:
> Am 25.06.2014 19:06, schrieb Rich Freeman:
>> Honestly, I think it makes far more sense to build a fault-tolerant
>> setup than to try to avoid faults by spending more on the parts. I've
>> only run desktop hard drives on my 24x7 RAID
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 17:44:48 +0100, Mick wrote:
> > Install a simple forwarding MTA like ssmtp to have all mails from cron
> > and friends sent to your ISP mailbox.
>
> ... and when you find out please tell us:
>
> 1) What syntax is appropriate to allow the use of mail account passwds
> which
Am 25.06.2014 19:06, schrieb Rich Freeman:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
> wrote:
>> so without looking that drive up - you are using a desktop part for
>> non-stop setup?
> Honestly, I think it makes far more sense to build a fault-tolerant
> setup than to try to avoid
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
wrote:
>
> so without looking that drive up - you are using a desktop part for
> non-stop setup?
Honestly, I think it makes far more sense to build a fault-tolerant
setup than to try to avoid faults by spending more on the parts. I've
only r
Am 25.06.2014 09:49, schrieb Dale:
> thegeezer wrote:
>> this is pretty bad. enough to really go and get a replacement asap,
>> and turn that disk off if you can. the self test stops at the first
>> error it comes to and in this case it is LBA#2905482560 for
>> calculation of where the error is che
On Wednesday 25 Jun 2014 17:09:52 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 10:54:51 -0500, Dale wrote:
> > I'm using lvm here. I also don't have a mail server set up which is why
> > I run them manually.
>
> Install a simple forwarding MTA like ssmtp to have al mails from cron and
> friends sen
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Dale wrote:
> I'm going to bet this drive is out of warranty. I'm pretty sure it is
> over 2 years since I bought it.
>
> Once I replace that drive, I'll dd the thing and see what it does then.
> It'll either break it or give me a fresh start to play with and see
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:30 AM, wrote:
>
> Is it not true that you cannot run raid on consumer drives because of
> timing errors?
>
Yes, it is not true. :)
I've never had issues running RAID on consumer drives.
Sure, devices certified for RAID might spend less time trying to
recover data w
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 10:54:51 -0500, Dale wrote:
> I'm using lvm here. I also don't have a mail server set up which is why
> I run them manually.
Install a simple forwarding MTA like ssmtp to have al mails from cron and
friends sent to your ISP mailbox.
--
Neil Bothwick
Beware! The end is...
Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Dale wrote:
>> thegeezer wrote:
>>> On 06/25/2014 08:49 AM, Dale wrote:
thegeezer wrote:
>>> this says there are 104 pending sectors i.e. bad blocks on the drive
>>> that have not been reallocatd yet
>> Wonder why it hasn't? Isn't it sup
Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 08:33:37 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
>>
>>> Typically drives tend to die for me about a year after I buy them -
>>> alarmingly often, actually.
>> Do you have a UPS? I used to get similar levels of f
Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 6:55 AM, thegeezer wrote:
> > On 06/25/2014 11:05 AM, Dale wrote:
> >
> >
> > I got a drive picked out at Newegg.
> >
> > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148844
> >
> >
> > slightly offtopic - i notice that the driv
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 08:33:37 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> Typically drives tend to die for me about a year after I buy them -
> alarmingly often, actually.
Do you have a UPS? I used to get similar levels of failure, and not just
drives,then I bought a UPS and things got much better. It seems the
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 08:33:37 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
>
>> Typically drives tend to die for me about a year after I buy them -
>> alarmingly often, actually.
>
> Do you have a UPS? I used to get similar levels of failure, and not just
> dr
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Dale wrote:
> thegeezer wrote:
>> On 06/25/2014 08:49 AM, Dale wrote:
>>> thegeezer wrote:
>> this says there are 104 pending sectors i.e. bad blocks on the drive
>> that have not been reallocatd yet
>
> Wonder why it hasn't? Isn't it supposed to do that sort of
Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> On 06/25/2014 12:55:08 PM, thegeezer wrote:
> > On 06/25/2014 11:05 AM, Dale wrote:
> > >
> > > I got a drive picked out at Newegg.
> > >
> > > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148844
> >
> > slightly offtopic - i notice that the drive h
thegeezer wrote:
> On 06/25/2014 08:49 AM, Dale wrote:
>> thegeezer wrote:
>>> this is pretty bad.
>> Here is the output:
>>
>> root@fireball / # smartctl -a /dev/sdc
>> smartctl 6.1 2013-03-16 r3800 [x86_64-linux-3.14.0-gentoo] (local build)
>> Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 6:55 AM, thegeezer wrote:
> On 06/25/2014 11:05 AM, Dale wrote:
>
>
> I got a drive picked out at Newegg.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148844
>
>
> slightly offtopic - i notice that the drive has a 2year limited warranty
>
> has any
Dale wrote:
>
>
> I got a drive picked out at Newegg.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148844
>
>
>
Drive is ordered. Be here tomorrow. Yay Newegg.
Dale
:-) :-)
On 06/25/2014 12:55:08 PM, thegeezer wrote:
On 06/25/2014 11:05 AM, Dale wrote:
>
> I got a drive picked out at Newegg.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148844
slightly offtopic - i notice that the drive has a 2year limited
warranty
has anyone managed to
On 06/25/2014 11:05 AM, Dale wrote:
>
> I got a drive picked out at Newegg.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148844
slightly offtopic - i notice that the drive has a 2year limited warranty
has anyone managed to get anything from hard drive warranties ?
On 06/25/2014 08:49 AM, Dale wrote:
> thegeezer wrote:
>> this is pretty bad.
> Here is the output:
>
> root@fireball / # smartctl -a /dev/sdc
> smartctl 6.1 2013-03-16 r3800 [x86_64-linux-3.14.0-gentoo] (local build)
> Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
>
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 00:05:03 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>> That's a 3TB drive. I don't have anything big enough to back it up to.
>
> Then either your data is not important to you or you need to get another
> drive ASAP. Meanwhile, you could start backing up the most important dat
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 00:05:03 -0500, Dale wrote:
> That's a 3TB drive. I don't have anything big enough to back it up to.
Then either your data is not important to you or you need to get another
drive ASAP. Meanwhile, you could start backing up the most important data.
> Is there anyway to find
thegeezer wrote:
> this is pretty bad. enough to really go and get a replacement asap,
> and turn that disk off if you can. the self test stops at the first
> error it comes to and in this case it is LBA#2905482560 for
> calculation of where the error is check out the smartcl [1] site which
> will
J. Roeleveld wrote:
>> There are some options with smartctl you could try to force the drive
>> to swap that bad sector with a spare one. A full disk read could also
>> force that. Eg. Try ' dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/null '. But, I usually
>> order a replacement when Smart tests start throwing errors.
On 06/25/2014 06:05 AM, Dale wrote:
> J. Roeleveld wrote:
>> On 25 June 2014 01:09:03 CEST, Dale wrote:
>>> Howdy,
>>>
>>> I run this test every once in a while. How bad is this:
>>>
>>> root@fireball / # smartctl -l selftest /dev/sdc
>>> smartctl 6.1 2013-03-16 r3800 [x86_64-linux-3.14.0-gentoo]
Am Tue, 24 Jun 2014 18:09:03 -0500
schrieb Dale :
> Howdy,
>
> I run this test every once in a while. How bad is this:
>
> root@fireball / # smartctl -l selftest /dev/sdc
> smartctl 6.1 2013-03-16 r3800 [x86_64-linux-3.14.0-gentoo] (local build)
> Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian F
On 25 June 2014 07:05:03 CEST, Dale wrote:
>J. Roeleveld wrote:
>> On 25 June 2014 01:09:03 CEST, Dale wrote:
>>> Howdy,
>>>
>>> I run this test every once in a while. How bad is this:
>>>
>>> root@fireball / # smartctl -l selftest /dev/sdc
>>> smartctl 6.1 2013-03-16 r3800 [x86_64-linux-3.14.0-
J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On 25 June 2014 01:09:03 CEST, Dale wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> I run this test every once in a while. How bad is this:
>>
>> root@fireball / # smartctl -l selftest /dev/sdc
>> smartctl 6.1 2013-03-16 r3800 [x86_64-linux-3.14.0-gentoo] (local
>> build)
>> Copyright (C) 2002-13, B
On 25 June 2014 01:09:03 CEST, Dale wrote:
>Howdy,
>
>I run this test every once in a while. How bad is this:
>
>root@fireball / # smartctl -l selftest /dev/sdc
>smartctl 6.1 2013-03-16 r3800 [x86_64-linux-3.14.0-gentoo] (local
>build)
>Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke,
>www.s
Howdy,
I run this test every once in a while. How bad is this:
root@fireball / # smartctl -l selftest /dev/sdc
smartctl 6.1 2013-03-16 r3800 [x86_64-linux-3.14.0-gentoo] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTIO
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