[gentoo-user] Hardware upgrade procedure question

2005-05-25 Thread Budd, Tracy
Hello all, I have purchased a new MB and processor. I will be transitioning from a regular Athlon to an Athlon64. Since I am not upgrading my hard drives, I plan to upgrade the OS as follows: 1. Boot from the latest Gentoo live CD. 2. chroot 3. emerge --update --deep --newuse world 4. rebuild the

Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware upgrade procedure question

2005-05-25 Thread Zac Medico
--- "Budd, Tracy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all, > > I have purchased a new MB and processor. I will be > transitioning from a > regular Athlon to an Athlon64. Since I am not > upgrading my hard drives, I > plan to upgrade the OS as follows: > > 1. Boot from the latest Gentoo live CD. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware upgrade procedure question

2005-05-25 Thread Antonino Sabetta
If you want a 64 bit userland then you should start over with an AMD64 stage. So you mean that whenever the hardware platform changes are so substantial (as in this case), one should install the system from scratch? Please, bear with me, I'm a new Gentoo user, even though I've been using Linux f

Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware upgrade procedure question

2005-05-25 Thread Daniel da Veiga
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you boot from the livecd, chroot and emerge the system using the new config (AMD64), recompile your kernel to the new processor and configure the boot loader, you're able to get your new system to work with the old configuration and the new architeture. Of course, t

Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware upgrade procedure question

2005-05-25 Thread Zac Medico
--- Antonino Sabetta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you want a 64 bit userland then you should > start > > over with an AMD64 stage. > > So you mean that whenever the hardware platform > changes are > so substantial (as in this case), one should install > the system > from scratch? > Please, b

Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware upgrade procedure question

2005-05-25 Thread Zac Medico
By "new config (AMD64)" do you mean change CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu to CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu ? Sounds like a bad idea. --- Daniel da Veiga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you boot from the > livecd, chroot and > emerge the system using the new config (AMD64), > re

Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware upgrade procedure question

2005-05-25 Thread Emmanuel Durin
Athlon64 processors can execute 32 bits instructions. But you can't use 32 bits executables with 64 bits libraries (or contrary), and this will append while recompiling your system (when a library used by emerge or gcc will be recompiled), so it should fail at any time. I think it can be done, resp

RE: [gentoo-user] Hardware upgrade procedure question

2005-05-25 Thread Budd, Tracy
a little easier. Thanks for the input. -tracy -Original Message- From: Zac Medico [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 3:32 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware upgrade procedure question By "new config (AMD64)" do you mea

Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware upgrade procedure question

2005-05-25 Thread Andreas Karlsson
On Wednesday 25 May 2005 21.31, Zac Medico wrote: > By "new config (AMD64)" do you mean change > CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu to CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu ? > Sounds like a bad idea. Yes, sounds indeed like a bad idea. Just back up your /home, /etc and other config files etc. Format old system and ma

RE: [gentoo-user] Hardware upgrade procedure question

2005-05-25 Thread Zac Medico
--- "Budd, Tracy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmm. > > While admittedly extreme, shouldn't setting the new > architecture work, if > you recompile the entire system? Is this one of > those > should-work-in-theory-but- > don't-try-this-at-home kind of things? I know there > are some packages, li

Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware upgrade procedure question

2005-05-25 Thread Zac Medico
--- Emmanuel Durin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Athlon64 processors can execute 32 bits > instructions. But you can't > use 32 bits executables with 64 bits libraries (or > contrary), and this > will append while recompiling your system (when a > library used by > emerge or gcc will be recompiled

RE: [gentoo-user] Hardware upgrade procedure question

2005-05-26 Thread Budd, Tracy
: [gentoo-user] Hardware upgrade procedure question --- Emmanuel Durin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Athlon64 processors can execute 32 bits instructions. But you can't > use 32 bits executables with 64 bits libraries (or contrary), and this > will append while recompiling

Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware upgrade procedure question

2005-05-26 Thread Bob Sanders
On Wed, 25 May 2005 10:27:14 -0400 "Budd, Tracy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Did I miss anything? > Here is what I did when I did the upgrade - - Boot LiveCD - mount the partitions - cd /mnt/gentoo - move etc/fstab, etc/conf.d/net, etc/passwd, etc/group, and o

Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware upgrade procedure question

2005-05-26 Thread Zac Medico
--- Bob Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Then delete directories - bin, sbin, lib, sys, > etc, opt. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/amd64/technotes.xml?part=2&chap=4#doc_chap3 You could recycle the old directories as a 32-bit chroot environment. That could come in handy if you w