Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-19 Thread Joerg Schilling
Let me add some text I wrote for another place but that explains how things would work: 1) The OpenSource definition http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php section 9 makes it very clear that an OSS license must not restrict other software and must not prevent to bundle different works un

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan McKinnon wrote: > > ZFS has a very free license. This was the reason, why it could be ported to > > the BSDs. So why do you believe there is a "license hurdle"? > > You appear to not fully understand the licenses. Well, I of course fully understand the licenses. It may however be that you

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 20:49 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Joerg Schilling did opine thusly: > > remember it was running on one of the BSD's, too, since it's a matter of > > licensing that is the hurdle of greatest height. I've only played with > > BTRFS on my dev box and the simple worko

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
Nganon wrote: > > Not really. ZFS is only available on Solaris right now. I seem to > > > remember it was running on one of the BSD's, too, since it's a matter of > > > licensing that is the hurdle of greatest height. I've only played with > > > BTRFS on my dev box and the simple workout I gave

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Bill Longman
On 08/18/2010 11:49 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Bill Longman wrote: > >> On 08/18/2010 11:03 AM, Nganon wrote: >>> Clear now, thanks. >>> >>> >>> If you want a robust filesystem, look into ZFS/BTRFS. >>> >>> >>> AFAIK ZFS is unmaintained and BTRFS is not stable, am I wrong? > > Why do yo

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Nganon
On 18 August 2010 21:49, Joerg Schilling < joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de> wrote: > Bill Longman wrote: > > > On 08/18/2010 11:03 AM, Nganon wrote: > > > Clear now, thanks. > > > > > > > > > If you want a robust filesystem, look into ZFS/BTRFS. > > > > > > > > > AFAIK ZFS is unmaintained

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Nganon
On 18 August 2010 21:37, Bill Longman wrote: > On 08/18/2010 11:03 AM, Nganon wrote: > > Clear now, thanks. > > > > > > If you want a robust filesystem, look into ZFS/BTRFS. > > > > > > AFAIK ZFS is unmaintained and BTRFS is not stable, am I wrong? > > Not really. ZFS is only available on Sol

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
Bill Longman wrote: > On 08/18/2010 11:03 AM, Nganon wrote: > > Clear now, thanks. > > > > > > If you want a robust filesystem, look into ZFS/BTRFS. > > > > > > AFAIK ZFS is unmaintained and BTRFS is not stable, am I wrong? Why do you believe ZFS is unmaintained? > Not really. ZFS is

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Bill Longman
On 08/18/2010 11:03 AM, Nganon wrote: > Clear now, thanks. > > > If you want a robust filesystem, look into ZFS/BTRFS. > > > AFAIK ZFS is unmaintained and BTRFS is not stable, am I wrong? Not really. ZFS is only available on Solaris right now. I seem to remember it was running on one of

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Nganon
On 18 August 2010 17:53, Bill Longman wrote: > On 08/18/2010 04:53 AM, Nganon wrote: > > I did not know that. I was thinking of, in couple of months, buying a > > notebook > > with two HDDs with RAID1 installed and using the usb drive as a backup > > destination. So if RAID got corruped, the back

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Nganon
On 18 August 2010 14:59, William Kenworthy wrote: > On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 14:09 +0300, Nganon wrote: > > > > > > On 17 August 2010 22:34, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > For things I'd like to keep an history (eg. /etc) I'm using > > git, and > > pushing the repo to a remote se

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Bill Longman
On 08/18/2010 04:53 AM, Nganon wrote: > I did not know that. I was thinking of, in couple of months, buying a > notebook > with two HDDs with RAID1 installed and using the usb drive as a backup > destination. So if RAID got corruped, the backups, made since then, > would be > useless? How would

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread William Kenworthy
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 14:09 +0300, Nganon wrote: > > > On 17 August 2010 22:34, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > For things I'd like to keep an history (eg. /etc) I'm using > git, and > pushing the repo to a remote server (denying non-fastfoward > updates > there,

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Nganon
On 18 August 2010 14:34, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:14:27 +0200, Maximilian Bräutigam wrote: > > > You should backup all in / except > > /tmp/* > > /sys/* > > /proc/* > > /lost+found/* > > /dev/* > > That backs up a lot of stuff that isn't needed. As long as you have /etc > and

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:14:27 +0200, Maximilian Bräutigam wrote: > You should backup all in / except > /tmp/* > /sys/* > /proc/* > /lost+found/* > /dev/* That backs up a lot of stuff that isn't needed. As long as you have /etc and /var/lib you can recreate the system. Depending on space vs. time,

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Nganon
On 17 August 2010 22:34, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > For things I'd like to keep an history (eg. /etc) I'm using git, and > pushing the repo to a remote server (denying non-fastfoward updates > there, so an theorectical highjacker cannot destroy my history) > Using git for /etc is a great idea. Than

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Nganon
2010/8/17 Maximilian Bräutigam > You should backup all in / except > /tmp/* > /sys/* > /proc/* > /lost+found/* > /dev/* > > Distfiles are saved outside the root and I can afford to rebuild world. My main concern was losing (gentoo) config files, speaking of which, I remembered to back up /usr/sr

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-17 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Nganon wrote: Hi, > My first post on the list. I thought I would start with something that I > started > to think of as 'essential' after losing 90GB of data. Now I have two main > questions in mind: what to and how to back up on gentoo most efficiently. I'm using a little script like that:

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-17 Thread Alex Schuster
Maximilian Bräutigam writes: > You should backup all in / except > /tmp/* > /sys/* > /proc/* > /lost+found/* > /dev/* Attention here, you need at least the null and console entries in /dev, or the system will not come up. I also have tty and tty1 in there, I think those were neede for tuxonice.

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-17 Thread Maximilian Bräutigam
Hi Am 16.08.2010 01:11, schrieb Nganon: > Hello all, > > My first post on the list. I thought I would start with something that I > started > to think of as 'essential' after losing 90GB of data. Now I have two main > questions in mind: what to and how to back up on gentoo most efficiently. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-17 Thread Nganon
On 17 August 2010 02:53, Thomas Yao wrote: > On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:37 AM, Mick wrote: > > Not sure if it's in an overlay, but I don't think it's in portage. > > > > Run eix -l backup and see how many back up tools and scripts pop up. > > > > I have been using tar, star and rsync. They all w

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-17 Thread Nganon
On 17 August 2010 00:37, Mick wrote: > On Monday 16 August 2010 11:30:36 Nganon wrote: > > On 16 August 2010 11:36, Marco wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Nganon > > > < > nganon%2bgen...@gmail.com >> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > Here is what I wanna do. I want to have o

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-16 Thread Thomas Yao
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:37 AM, Mick wrote: > Not sure if it's in an overlay, but I don't think it's in portage. > > Run eix -l backup and see how many back up tools and scripts pop up. > > I have been using tar, star and rsync.  They all work and they can all make > incremental back ups.  You'll

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-16 Thread Mick
On Monday 16 August 2010 11:30:36 Nganon wrote: > On 16 August 2010 11:36, Marco wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Nganon > > > > > > > wrote: > > > [...] > > > Here is what I wanna do. I want to have only one big backup for, say, > > > userA-2010.08.07.tgz and other small backup tars c

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-16 Thread Nganon
On 16 August 2010 11:36, Marco wrote: > On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Nganon > > > wrote: > > [...] > > Here is what I wanna do. I want to have only one big backup for, say, > > userA-2010.08.07.tgz and other small backup tars containing only the > > files/folders that were modified since las

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-16 Thread Nganon
On 16 August 2010 03:15, Alex Schuster wrote: > Nganon > writes: > > > Hello all, > > > > My first post on the list. I thought I would start with something > > that I started > > to think of as 'essential' after losing 90GB of data. Now I have two > > main questions in mind: what to and how to ba

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-16 Thread Marco
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Nganon wrote: > [...] > Here is what I wanna do. I want to have only one big backup for, say, > userA-2010.08.07.tgz and other small backup tars containing only the > files/folders that were modified since last update, 2010.08.07, as > userA-diff-2010.08.14.tgz, us

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-15 Thread Alex Schuster
Nganon writes: > Hello all, > > My first post on the list. I thought I would start with something > that I started > to think of as 'essential' after losing 90GB of data. Now I have two > main questions in mind: what to and how to back up on gentoo most > efficiently. > > 1. Apart from users' h

[gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-15 Thread Nganon
Hello all, My first post on the list. I thought I would start with something that I started to think of as 'essential' after losing 90GB of data. Now I have two main questions in mind: what to and how to back up on gentoo most efficiently. 1. Apart from users' home directories and the followings,