Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-19 Thread Joerg Schilling
Let me add some text I wrote for another place but that explains how things would work: 1) The OpenSource definition http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php section 9 makes it very clear that an OSS license must not restrict other software and must not prevent to bundle different works

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Nganon
2010/8/17 Maximilian Bräutigam max-br...@gmx.de You should backup all in / except /tmp/* /sys/* /proc/* /lost+found/* /dev/* Distfiles are saved outside the root and I can afford to rebuild world. My main concern was losing (gentoo) config files, speaking of which, I remembered to back

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Nganon
On 17 August 2010 22:34, Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de wrote: For things I'd like to keep an history (eg. /etc) I'm using git, and pushing the repo to a remote server (denying non-fastfoward updates there, so an theorectical highjacker cannot destroy my history) Using git for /etc is a

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:14:27 +0200, Maximilian Bräutigam wrote: You should backup all in / except /tmp/* /sys/* /proc/* /lost+found/* /dev/* That backs up a lot of stuff that isn't needed. As long as you have /etc and /var/lib you can recreate the system. Depending on space vs. time, you

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Nganon
On 18 August 2010 14:34, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:14:27 +0200, Maximilian Bräutigam wrote: You should backup all in / except /tmp/* /sys/* /proc/* /lost+found/* /dev/* That backs up a lot of stuff that isn't needed. As long as you have /etc

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread William Kenworthy
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 14:09 +0300, Nganon wrote: On 17 August 2010 22:34, Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de wrote: For things I'd like to keep an history (eg. /etc) I'm using git, and pushing the repo to a remote server (denying non-fastfoward updates

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Bill Longman
On 08/18/2010 04:53 AM, Nganon wrote: I did not know that. I was thinking of, in couple of months, buying a notebook with two HDDs with RAID1 installed and using the usb drive as a backup destination. So if RAID got corruped, the backups, made since then, would be useless? How would you

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Nganon
On 18 August 2010 14:59, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 14:09 +0300, Nganon wrote: On 17 August 2010 22:34, Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de wrote: For things I'd like to keep an history (eg. /etc) I'm using git, and pushing

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Nganon
On 18 August 2010 17:53, Bill Longman bill.long...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/18/2010 04:53 AM, Nganon wrote: I did not know that. I was thinking of, in couple of months, buying a notebook with two HDDs with RAID1 installed and using the usb drive as a backup destination. So if RAID got

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Bill Longman
On 08/18/2010 11:03 AM, Nganon wrote: Clear now, thanks. If you want a robust filesystem, look into ZFS/BTRFS. AFAIK ZFS is unmaintained and BTRFS is not stable, am I wrong? Not really. ZFS is only available on Solaris right now. I seem to remember it was running on one of the

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
Bill Longman bill.long...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/18/2010 11:03 AM, Nganon wrote: Clear now, thanks. If you want a robust filesystem, look into ZFS/BTRFS. AFAIK ZFS is unmaintained and BTRFS is not stable, am I wrong? Why do you believe ZFS is unmaintained? Not really.

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Nganon
On 18 August 2010 21:37, Bill Longman bill.long...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/18/2010 11:03 AM, Nganon wrote: Clear now, thanks. If you want a robust filesystem, look into ZFS/BTRFS. AFAIK ZFS is unmaintained and BTRFS is not stable, am I wrong? Not really. ZFS is only available

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Nganon
On 18 August 2010 21:49, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Bill Longman bill.long...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/18/2010 11:03 AM, Nganon wrote: Clear now, thanks. If you want a robust filesystem, look into ZFS/BTRFS. AFAIK ZFS is unmaintained and

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Bill Longman
On 08/18/2010 11:49 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote: Bill Longman bill.long...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/18/2010 11:03 AM, Nganon wrote: Clear now, thanks. If you want a robust filesystem, look into ZFS/BTRFS. AFAIK ZFS is unmaintained and BTRFS is not stable, am I wrong? Why do you

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
Nganon nganon+gen...@gmail.com wrote: Not really. ZFS is only available on Solaris right now. I seem to remember it was running on one of the BSD's, too, since it's a matter of licensing that is the hurdle of greatest height. I've only played with BTRFS on my dev box and the simple

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 20:49 on Wednesday 18 August 2010, Joerg Schilling did opine thusly: remember it was running on one of the BSD's, too, since it's a matter of licensing that is the hurdle of greatest height. I've only played with BTRFS on my dev box and the simple workout I

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: ZFS has a very free license. This was the reason, why it could be ported to the BSDs. So why do you believe there is a license hurdle? You appear to not fully understand the licenses. Well, I of course fully understand the licenses. It may

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-17 Thread Nganon
On 17 August 2010 00:37, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 16 August 2010 11:30:36 Nganon wrote: On 16 August 2010 11:36, Marco listwo...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Nganon nganon+gen...@gmail.com nganon%2bgen...@gmail.com nganon%2bgen...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-17 Thread Nganon
On 17 August 2010 02:53, Thomas Yao t.yao...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:37 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure if it's in an overlay, but I don't think it's in portage. Run eix -l backup and see how many back up tools and scripts pop up. I have been using

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-17 Thread Maximilian Bräutigam
Hi Am 16.08.2010 01:11, schrieb Nganon: Hello all, My first post on the list. I thought I would start with something that I started to think of as 'essential' after losing 90GB of data. Now I have two main questions in mind: what to and how to back up on gentoo most efficiently. 1.

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-17 Thread Alex Schuster
Maximilian Bräutigam writes: You should backup all in / except /tmp/* /sys/* /proc/* /lost+found/* /dev/* Attention here, you need at least the null and console entries in /dev, or the system will not come up. I also have tty and tty1 in there, I think those were neede for tuxonice.

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-17 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Nganon nganon+gen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, My first post on the list. I thought I would start with something that I started to think of as 'essential' after losing 90GB of data. Now I have two main questions in mind: what to and how to back up on gentoo most efficiently. I'm using a little

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-16 Thread Marco
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Nganon nganon+gen...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Here is what I wanna do. I want to have only one big backup for, say, userA-2010.08.07.tgz and other small backup tars containing only the files/folders that were modified since last update, 2010.08.07, as

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-16 Thread Nganon
On 16 August 2010 03:15, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Nganon nganon+gen...@gmail.com nganon%2bgen...@gmail.com writes: Hello all, My first post on the list. I thought I would start with something that I started to think of as 'essential' after losing 90GB of data. Now I

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-16 Thread Nganon
On 16 August 2010 11:36, Marco listwo...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Nganon nganon+gen...@gmail.comnganon%2bgen...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Here is what I wanna do. I want to have only one big backup for, say, userA-2010.08.07.tgz and other small backup tars

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-16 Thread Mick
On Monday 16 August 2010 11:30:36 Nganon wrote: On 16 August 2010 11:36, Marco listwo...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Nganon nganon+gen...@gmail.comnganon%2bgen...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Here is what I wanna do. I want to have only one big backup for, say,

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-16 Thread Thomas Yao
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:37 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure if it's in an overlay, but I don't think it's in portage. Run eix -l backup and see how many back up tools and scripts pop up. I have been using tar, star and rsync.  They all work and they can all make

[gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-15 Thread Nganon
Hello all, My first post on the list. I thought I would start with something that I started to think of as 'essential' after losing 90GB of data. Now I have two main questions in mind: what to and how to back up on gentoo most efficiently. 1. Apart from users' home directories and the

Re: [gentoo-user] How to build a time machine on Gentoo

2010-08-15 Thread Alex Schuster
Nganon nganon+gen...@gmail.com writes: Hello all, My first post on the list. I thought I would start with something that I started to think of as 'essential' after losing 90GB of data. Now I have two main questions in mind: what to and how to back up on gentoo most efficiently. 1.