Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))

2011-03-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 26 March 2011 23:46:26 Alan McKinnon wrote: > So LVM takes a bunch of disks or arrays and lets you combine them in ways > you want them (not ways the hardware forces you to have them). And > that's all it does I also find it handy for creating more partitions than the standard hardwar

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))

2011-03-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 26 March 2011 15:36:19 Mark Knecht wrote: > Dale, >I understand your position and concerns. While I have a number of > systems, I have little time or patience for dealing with a lot of this > stuff and LVM has been one of them. > >One thing I'm considering to try out LVM is a s

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))

2011-03-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 26 March 2011 17:20:48 Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Saturday 26 March 2011 15:06:31 Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: > >>> Just because something works for most people, doesn't mean it will > >>> for > >>> everyone either. If you lose data, it doesn't matter. LVM just > >>> adds >

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))

2011-03-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> On Saturday 26 March 2011 15:06:31 Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: >> Just because something works for most people, doesn't mean it will for everyone either.  If you lose data, it doesn't matter.  LVM just adds o

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))

2011-03-26 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Saturday 26 March 2011 15:06:31 Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: Just because something works for most people, doesn't mean it will for everyone either. If you lose data, it doesn't matter. LVM just adds one more layer of something to go wrong. Me, I don't need the extra ri

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))

2011-03-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:17:41 -0500, Dale wrote: > Just because something works for most people, doesn't mean it will for > everyone either. If you lose data, it doesn't matter. LVM just adds > one more layer of something to go wrong. Me, I don't need the extra > risk of having a system that

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))

2011-03-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 26 March 2011 15:06:31 Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: > > Just because something works for most people, doesn't mean it will for > > everyone either. If you lose data, it doesn't matter. LVM just adds > > one more layer of something to go wrong. Me, I don't need the extra > > risk of hav

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))

2011-03-26 Thread Elaine C. Sharpe
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: > Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: >> In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: >> >>> >>> Yep, I read about others having problems and loosing data. >>> >>> Dale >>> >>> :-) :-) >>> >> You can read about others having problems and losing data with pretty >> much every bit

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))

2011-03-26 Thread Dale
Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: Yep, I read about others having problems and loosing data. Dale :-) :-) You can read about others having problems and losing data with pretty much every bit of software ever coded. *Lots* of people are not particularly compe

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))

2011-03-26 Thread Elaine C. Sharpe
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: > Bill Longman wrote: >> On 03/24/2011 11:17 AM, Dale wrote: >> >>> kashani wrote: >>> On 3/24/2011 10:19 AM, Dale wrote: > I have never used LVM but when it messes up after a upgrade, as has > happened to many others, see if you

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))

2011-03-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Friday 25 March 2011 07:51:13 Joost Roeleveld wrote: > On Thursday 24 March 2011 22:07:28 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Thursday 24 March 2011 12:08:02 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > On Thursday 24 March 2011 12:19:39 Dale wrote: > > > > I have never used LVM but when it messes up after a upgra

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))

2011-03-24 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Thursday 24 March 2011 22:07:28 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Thursday 24 March 2011 12:08:02 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Thursday 24 March 2011 12:19:39 Dale wrote: > > > I have never used LVM but when it messes up after a upgrade, as has > > > happened to many others, see if you say the sam

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))

2011-03-24 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Thursday 24 March 2011 12:19:39 Dale wrote: > J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Thu, March 24, 2011 12:30 pm, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >> On Thursday 24 March 2011 08:49:52 J. Roeleveld wrote: > >>> On Wed, March 23, 2011 5:43 pm, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > md raid devices can do barriers.

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))

2011-03-24 Thread Dale
Bill Longman wrote: On 03/24/2011 11:17 AM, Dale wrote: kashani wrote: On 3/24/2011 10:19 AM, Dale wrote: I have never used LVM but when it messes up after a upgrade, as has happened to many others, see if you say the same thing. I hope your backups are good and they can rest

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))

2011-03-24 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Thursday 24 March 2011 12:08:02 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Thursday 24 March 2011 12:19:39 Dale wrote: > > I have never used LVM but when it messes up after a upgrade, as has > > happened to many others, see if you say the same thing. I hope your > > backups are good and they can restore. > > W

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))

2011-03-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:19:39 -0500, Dale wrote: > I have never used LVM but when it messes up after a upgrade, as has > happened to many others, see if you say the same thing. I hope your > backups are good and they can restore. I must be one of the luckiest people around. LVM messes up for ma

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))

2011-03-24 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Thursday 24 March 2011 15:38:02 J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Thu, March 24, 2011 12:30 pm, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Thursday 24 March 2011 08:49:52 J. Roeleveld wrote: > >> On Wed, March 23, 2011 5:43 pm, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >> > md raid devices can do barriers. Don't know about

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))

2011-03-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 24 March 2011 12:19:39 Dale wrote: > I have never used LVM but when it messes up after a upgrade, as has > happened to many others, see if you say the same thing. I hope your > backups are good and they can restore. What is this "mess up after an upgrade" of which you speak? I've us

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))

2011-03-24 Thread Bill Longman
On 03/24/2011 11:17 AM, Dale wrote: > kashani wrote: >> On 3/24/2011 10:19 AM, Dale wrote: >>> >>> I have never used LVM but when it messes up after a upgrade, as has >>> happened to many others, see if you say the same thing. I hope your >>> backups are good and they can restore. >>> >>> Dale >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))

2011-03-24 Thread Dale
kashani wrote: On 3/24/2011 10:19 AM, Dale wrote: I have never used LVM but when it messes up after a upgrade, as has happened to many others, see if you say the same thing. I hope your backups are good and they can restore. Dale Meh, boot a liveCD and fix it which took all of 15 minutes

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))

2011-03-24 Thread kashani
On 3/24/2011 10:19 AM, Dale wrote: I have never used LVM but when it messes up after a upgrade, as has happened to many others, see if you say the same thing. I hope your backups are good and they can restore. Dale Meh, boot a liveCD and fix it which took all of 15 minutes. I don't see that

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))

2011-03-24 Thread Dale
J. Roeleveld wrote: On Thu, March 24, 2011 12:30 pm, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Thursday 24 March 2011 08:49:52 J. Roeleveld wrote: On Wed, March 23, 2011 5:43 pm, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: md raid devices can do barriers. Don't know about lvm. But lvm is such

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM (Was: the best filesystem for server: XFS or JFS (or?))

2011-03-24 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thu, March 24, 2011 12:30 pm, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Thursday 24 March 2011 08:49:52 J. Roeleveld wrote: >> On Wed, March 23, 2011 5:43 pm, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> > md raid devices can do barriers. Don't know about lvm. But lvm is such >> a >> > can >> > of worms I am surprised