Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [systemd] Is this a NetworkManager bug?

2014-10-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés > wrote: >> Be aware that /etc/init.d/functions.sh is still required by a lot of >> things (gcc-config, python-updater, perl-cleaner, stuff like >> that).They are trying to move that fil

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [systemd] Is this a NetworkManager bug?

2014-10-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > Be aware that /etc/init.d/functions.sh is still required by a lot of > things (gcc-config, python-updater, perl-cleaner, stuff like > that).They are trying to move that file to a more reasonable location; > I expect it to be done in fi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [systemd] Is this a NetworkManager bug?

2014-10-17 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
Be aware that /etc/init.d/functions.sh is still required by a lot of things (gcc-config, python-updater, perl-cleaner, stuff like that).They are trying to move that file to a more reasonable location; I expect it to be done in five or six years. Regards. On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:00 AM, walt wr

[gentoo-user] Re: [systemd] Is this a NetworkManager bug?

2014-10-17 Thread walt
On 10/16/2014 04:34 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > At > some point NM had integration with the OpenRC network configuration, > and (AFAIR) sometimes it made a mess inside /etc/conf.d. I don't know > if such integration exists anymore; nowadays I don't even have > /etc/{conf,init}.d, and everythin

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [systemd] Is this a NetworkManager bug?

2014-10-16 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:53 PM, walt wrote: > On 10/15/2014 08:23 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:39 PM, walt wrote: >>> >>> I just switched my home LAN from wired to all wifi and I'm having trouble >>> with NetworkManager at boot time. >>> >>> I have systemd start NetworkManager a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [systemd] Is this a NetworkManager bug?

2014-10-16 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:53 PM, walt wrote: > On 10/15/2014 08:23 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:39 PM, walt wrote: >>> >>> I just switched my home LAN from wired to all wifi and I'm having trouble >>> with NetworkManager at boot time. >>> >>> I have systemd start NetworkManager a

[gentoo-user] Re: [systemd] Is this a NetworkManager bug?

2014-10-16 Thread walt
On 10/15/2014 08:23 PM, Tom H wrote: > On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:39 PM, walt wrote: >> >> I just switched my home LAN from wired to all wifi and I'm having trouble >> with NetworkManager at boot time. >> >> I have systemd start NetworkManager at boot because I need the internet >> for ntpdate and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [systemd] Is this a NetworkManager bug?

2014-10-15 Thread Jc García
2014-10-14 16:54 GMT-06:00 Canek Peláez Valdés : > On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 5:48 PM, walt wrote: > [ snip ] >> Lots of great information, thanks. What I learned while following up >> on your hints is that the NM behavior I thought was a bug is merely >> a feature ;) >> >> After boot, but before st

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [systemd] Is this a NetworkManager bug?

2014-10-14 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 5:48 PM, walt wrote: [ snip ] > Lots of great information, thanks. What I learned while following up > on your hints is that the NM behavior I thought was a bug is merely > a feature ;) > > After boot, but before startx, wlan0 exists but is not properly set > up. After X

[gentoo-user] Re: [systemd] Is this a NetworkManager bug?

2014-10-14 Thread walt
On 10/13/2014 04:56 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 6:39 PM, walt wrote: >> I just switched my home LAN from wired to all wifi and I'm having trouble >> with NetworkManager at boot time. >> >> I have systemd start NetworkManager at boot because I need the internet >> for n