[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages

On 2023-01-20, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: [...] > Either these mail identification numbers should be somehow visible and > in particular searchable at > >https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user/ > > or the mail that some mail couldn't be delivered should contain more in- > formation like author

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages

On Sunday, 22 January 2023 23:04:43 GMT Michael wrote: > Or if your ISP offer a webmail front end to their server, it should be > easier to access the message with a browser. Useful advice, Michael; thanks. When I eventually found the right search terms, I went straight to the answer I needed [

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages

On Sunday, 22 January 2023 22:33:50 GMT Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday, 19 January 2023 09:30:34 GMT I wrote: > > I'll see it it's my ISP who's bouncing the message. > > It looks as though they did reject the mail. I asked them please to let it > through just this once, and now it's sitting o

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages

On Thursday, 19 January 2023 09:30:34 GMT I wrote: > I'll see it it's my ISP who's bouncing the message. It looks as though they did reject the mail. I asked them please to let it through just this once, and now it's sitting on their server (my ISP's). Unfortunately, my local postfix is rejecti

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages

On 1/20/23 9:09 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: I'm still getting bounce messages the same as all year. Different meaning of "all the time". - Not all sending domains use advanced security. - Not all receiving domains use advanced security. - Not all mailing lists account for advanced security.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages

On Friday, 20 January 2023 14:44:24 GMT Grant Taylor wrote: > On 1/20/23 2:07 AM, Dale wrote: > > It's odd in my opinion. Maybe someone will figure it out. > > I think it's been figured out. This is where "this isn't done all the > time" comes into play. I'm still getting bounce messages the s

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages

On 1/20/23 2:07 AM, Dale wrote: It could be the OP is running into the same problem I have in the past, whatever that problems is. My experience is that this is a combination of advanced email protection on the sender /and/ the receiver. E.g. the sending domain's email configuration specifie

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages

Grant, On Thursday, 2023-01-19 22:59:48 -0700, you wrote: > ... > I tried it a few times. > > I'd see mail log entries where the re-sent messages would fail the same > way that the original sent message failed. :-/ Me too :-( But isn't this changeable? It's a list maintained by Gentoo.Org,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages

Grant Taylor wrote: > On 1/18/23 4:19 PM, Dale wrote: >> I might add, in the past I followed the instructions to get bounced >> messages, I've never once had it work.  I don't get a error or >> anything either, like I do if I do something wrong doing something else. > > I tried it a few times. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages

On 1/18/23 4:19 PM, Dale wrote: I might add, in the past I followed the instructions to get bounced messages, I've never once had it work. I don't get a error or anything either, like I do if I do something wrong doing something else. I tried it a few times. I'd see mail log entries where th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages

On Thursday, 19 January 2023 08:56:41 GMT Nuno Silva wrote: > Did the bounce report you got reproduce any reason/message from the > system it failed to deliver the message to? No, just the standard list of message numbers. > This message was particularly quite large, so it could be simply that..

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages

On 2023-01-13, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Hello list, > > Ever since the new year I've been getting a bounce message from this list - > 19 > of them so far. The first of those listed one message twice, most of the > others > six times. The message was 200359. > > I don't know what that message wa

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages

Dave On Wed, Jan 18, 2023, 18:20 Dale wrote: > Grant Taylor wrote: > > On 1/18/23 8:07 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> You can also request redelivery of messages based on the internal > >> numbers if you follow the help advice in all list message headers. > > > > The problem is that if the messag

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages

Grant Taylor wrote: > On 1/18/23 8:07 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> You can also request redelivery of messages based on the internal >> numbers if you follow the help advice in all list message headers. > > The problem is that if the message is rejected because of filtering > the first time around,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages

On 1/18/23 8:07 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: You can also request redelivery of messages based on the internal numbers if you follow the help advice in all list message headers. The problem is that if the message is rejected because of filtering the first time around, there's a very good chance th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages

On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 08:51:10 -0500, Jack wrote: > >> Now was there (I recall asking about this previously, but I forgot > >> what the answer was) a way to get a message-ID from that internal > >> number, or at least a way to get the address of the message's > >> archive copy on the gentoo website?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages

On 1/18/23 06:44, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday, 18 January 2023 08:59:21 GMT Nuno Silva wrote: [ ] Now was there (I recall asking about this previously, but I forgot what the answer was) a way to get a message-ID from that internal number, or at least a way to get the address of t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages

On Wednesday, 18 January 2023 08:59:21 GMT Nuno Silva wrote: > And *now* I haven't received one of these messages I was talking about > (which would usually appear for every post of mine to the list, albeit > possibly delayed by a few hours), so I guess either the forwarding > problem was fixed or

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages

On 2023-01-14, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday, 14 January 2023 07:00:29 GMT Nuno Silva wrote: >> On 2023-01-13, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> > Hello list, >> > >> > Ever since the new year I've been getting a bounce message from this list >> > - 19 of them so far. The first of those listed one m

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages

Send again David On Sun, Jan 15, 2023, 19:50 Jigme Datse wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 10:25:27 + > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > On Saturday, 14 January 2023 07:00:29 GMT Nuno Silva wrote: > > > On 2023-01-13, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > Hello list, > > > > > > > > Ever since the new year

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages

On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 10:25:27 + Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday, 14 January 2023 07:00:29 GMT Nuno Silva wrote: > > On 2023-01-13, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > Hello list, > > > > > > Ever since the new year I've been getting a bounce message from > > > this list > > > - 19 of them so fa

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages

On Saturday, 14 January 2023 07:00:29 GMT Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2023-01-13, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > Ever since the new year I've been getting a bounce message from this list > > - 19 of them so far. The first of those listed one message twice, most of > > the others six time

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages

On 2023-01-13, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Hello list, > > Ever since the new year I've been getting a bounce message from this list - > 19 > of them so far. The first of those listed one message twice, most of the > others > six times. The message was 200359. > > I don't know what that message wa

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages from gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org

On 1/25/20 12:32 PM, gentoo-user+ow...@lists.gentoo.org wrote: Some messages to you could not be delivered. If you're seeing this message it means things are back to normal, and it's merely for your information. Here is the list of the bounced messages: - 189317 Getting these messages agai

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages from gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org

On Tuesday, 14 January 2020 13:39:57 GMT you wrote: > On 1/13/20 5:24 PM, (Nuno Silva) wrote: > > On 2020-01-13, james wrote: > >> On 1/13/20 11:32 AM, gentoo-user+ow...@lists.gentoo.org wrote: > >>> Some messages to you could not be delivered. If you're seeing this > >>> message it means things ar

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages from gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org

On 1/13/20 5:24 PM, (Nuno Silva) wrote: On 2020-01-13, james wrote: On 1/13/20 11:32 AM, gentoo-user+ow...@lists.gentoo.org wrote: Some messages to you could not be delivered. If you're seeing this message it means things are back to normal, and it's merely for your information. Here is the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages from gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org

On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 22:24:51 +, (Nuno Silva) wrote: > >> Here is the list of the bounced messages: > >> - 189231 > > How does one get to the message from that number? Look at the List-Help header in any message. Following that returns a list of commands you can send to the listserv. --

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages from gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org

On 2020-01-13, james wrote: > On 1/13/20 11:32 AM, gentoo-user+ow...@lists.gentoo.org wrote: >> >> Some messages to you could not be delivered. If you're seeing this >> message it means things are back to normal, and it's merely for your >> information. >> >> Here is the list of the bounced messag

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing messages from gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org

On 1/13/20 11:32 AM, gentoo-user+ow...@lists.gentoo.org wrote: Some messages to you could not be delivered. If you're seeing this message it means things are back to normal, and it's merely for your information. Here is the list of the bounced messages: - 189231 Anyone else getting these?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

On 03/02/2018 05:47 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: Flam^H^H^H^H value judgments aside, does DMARC also change the long standing standard of sending rejections to the envelope address? No, DMARC should not change the principle operation of SMTP, save for additional checks that messages must pass. Al

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

On 2018-03-02 15:51, Grant Taylor wrote: > The reason that messages are being rejected is because of the DMARC > policy. 1) I publish DMARC records and 2) Gmail honor published DMARC > records. [...] > - This is a growing change in the email industry. - I just happen to > live towards (but not

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

On 03/02/2018 09:36 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: These are all from Grant Taylor. They are DKIM-signed, and, not surprisingly given the list header and footer munging, signature verification fails (on my mail server). Correct. DKIM verification is failing and my DMARC policy is configured to RE

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

On 2018-03-02 12:04, Floyd Anderson wrote: > > >

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

On 2018-03-01 18:12, Dale wrote: > Here is the list of the bounced messages: > - 182748 > - 182749 > - 182751 If you succeed in retrieving them, please let us know which ones they were, so we can guess as to the cause. -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you also po

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

On 2018-03-01 18:12, Dale wrote: > If it helps, this is the complete message headers and all that I got > for one of them. Obviously, I'm editing out my email addy. I get > enough spam as it is. I'm replacing my email addy with ohnoyourenot > even if it is a partial. It seems to me that they are c

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2018-03-01 23:48, Branko Grubic wrote: > >>> I keep my messages locally so when I miss messages, it can throw a >>> thread into some random weirdness. If one uses the web interface to >>> read/reply etc then it wouldn't matter but for those who use email >>> software, it

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

On 2018-03-01 23:48, Branko Grubic wrote: > > I keep my messages locally so when I miss messages, it can throw a > > thread into some random weirdness. If one uses the web interface to > > read/reply etc then it wouldn't matter but for those who use email > > software, it seems we are missing som

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

On 2018-03-01 14:42, R0b0t1 wrote: > I keep getting emails from the mailer daemon about bouncing messages. > I am worried. Am I missing messages from my internet friends? Please > send help. Do you mean the crud from outlook/365? I get that too; it's probably because my list mail lacks DKIM sigs