This email will be about some good results that I have obtained in this
non-dbus virt-manager matter, and at least one snag left to solve...

I have made a lot of progress in using non-dbus virt-manager recently.

I hope some readers might be interested in these not very usual, except
in Gentoo, feats.

Let me remind you:

On 170114-12:48+0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> This is my installation of the package virt-manager:
> 
> # equery l virt-manager
>  * Searching for virt-manager ...
> [IP-] [  ] app-emulation/virt-manager-1.4.0-r2:0
> #
The above is still the case. And so is the below.

> # emerge -pv virt-manager
> 
...
> 
> /usr/bin/virt-clone
> /usr/bin/virt-convert
> /usr/bin/virt-install
> /usr/bin/virt-xml
> 
> While at the list of files, pls. notice that there is no executable named
> 'virt-manager' in my system's virt-manager install:
...

This is what I thought that I needed to do at the onset:
> 
> So I guess, to get Tails installed, the way I will need to follow:
> 
> https://tails.boum.org/doc/advanced_topics/virtualization/virt-manager/index.en.html

But there is now the better debian than the systemDestructed Debian,
which is Devuan, and there is now Heads (based on Devuan) instead of
Tails (based on Debian):

https://heads.dyne.org/about.html
or
http://fz474h2o46o2u7xj.onion/about.html

And, as far as Tails, I can use it, although as of this time still only
in pure Qemu (just a little is still missing for full Libvirt deployment
under sound control of grsecurity RBAC policies... more below about
that):
https://www.croatiafidelis.hr/foss/cap/cap-161015-qemu-devuan/qemu-devuan-10.php
(and the successive page)

This was wrong, that's for developers
> So, the mailing list:
> 
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/virt-tools-list
> 
there's users list instead:
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/libvirt-users

But I first need to complete setting up the grsecurity RBAC policies for
Libvirt:

Libvirt virtualization policies
https://forums.grsecurity.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4675

which I might be at an end of (that took time! but it feels
rewarding)...

All of that I have successfully managed to do without dbus...

Or d-bus, like in the comparison table of init systems:

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Comparison_of_init_systems

Which I hope is slowly spreading from Gentoo into other true-unix FOSS,
the sans-dbus OpenRC...

But I would need time to see, say, how far Devuan has reached in
implementing OpenRC, as they planned...

(I'm not a dev, I'm only yet struggling to become a good
tester for projects that I believe in...)

I have also hit a snag... see the last post at:

Whonix on Gentoo issues
https://forums.whonix.org/t/whonix-on-gentoo-issues/3188/17
where find (pasting:

(virt-viewer:9916): GSpice-CRITICAL **: egl init failed: cannot create
EGL context

and more. That's basically, my virt-manager, virt-viewer and spice, and
spice-gtk and xf86-video-qxl have some issues, and when virt-viewer
starts, the spice client can't get the egl context, which I have come to
understand is the... keyboard and the mouse...

In slow time, if anybody has any advice about this matter, I'll be
greatful!

-- 
Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr

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