[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-08 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-09-08, J. Roeleveld wrote: > One of the largest Linux distributions at the moment is Ubuntu. > A quick check on their website doesn't show a News-server. Instead, Ubuntites seem awfully fond of web-based "forums". Which I think we can all agree are horrible abominations that make mailin

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-08 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-09-08, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Wednesday 08 September 2010 02:27:16 Gregory Shearman wrote: >> In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: >> >> I'm reading your message via a usenet server. linux.gentoo.user is the >> >> newsgroup. Replies of course go via the mailing list address. >> > >> > Is th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 20:52 on Tuesday 07 September 2010, Arttu V. did opine thusly: > On 9/7/10, Dale wrote: > > And I bet if a bug / feature request were filed, it would be closed as > > "ain't going to happen." I know that doesn't exist but they may make > > that available for just

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Arttu V.
On 9/7/10, Dale wrote: > And I bet if a bug / feature request were filed, it would be closed as > "ain't going to happen." I know that doesn't exist but they may make > that available for just this one purpose. As a long-time user I'm sure you've met Mr. and Mrs. van de Closed-Wontfix? Sometimes

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Dale
Arttu V. wrote: On 9/7/10, Alan McKinnon wrote: We do not have a news service because we[1] do not feel we need one and do not desire one. I thought it's because this is the Gentoo *users'* list, not the dev list? :) It doesn't matter whether we want it or not -- we users couldn't d

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Arttu V.
On 9/7/10, Alan McKinnon wrote: > We do not have a news service because we[1] do not feel we need one and do > not desire one. I thought it's because this is the Gentoo *users'* list, not the dev list? :) It doesn't matter whether we want it or not -- we users couldn't do much about an Official

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Al
Hi Alan, > You are self-confessed new to Linux and Volker already spotted by are likely I am self-confessed new to Gentoo, but I use Linux for over 10 years as my main OS. Still I don't have all the insight, what is going on under the hood. > new to Linux as well. You are not (yet) part of this

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:48 on Tuesday 07 September 2010, Al did opine thusly: > > I'm afraid you lost me there. Why does it matter where the archive is? > > Sure, it is most important to have an archive at all. When using a > newsreader the minimun I do is to scan the headers of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 16:29:48 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > However, my concern was why the Gentoo community doesn't make use of > > those cool features and officially only advertises and keeps a > > mailing list, that has no history itself for example and how this > > approach influences an

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Al
> > I'm afraid you lost me there.  Why does it matter where the archive is? > Sure, it is most important to have an archive at all. When using a newsreader the minimun I do is to scan the headers of the past, to avoid the discussion of a solved question. That is faster then openenig a webbrowser t

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-09-07, Al wrote: >> Do everyone a favor. Go use Gmane and tell us what exactly >> you'd be able to do that Gmane does not already do. >> It's archived, search-able (via keywords) and many, many >> other very cool features. > > I do you favour and confirm that it is a very cool web interfa

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Tuesday 07 September 2010, Al wrote: > > Al, > > > > Do everyone a favor. Go use Gmane and tell us what exactly > > you'd be able to do that Gmane does not already do. > > It's archived, search-able (via keywords) and many, many > > other very cool features. > > I do you favour and confirm tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Arttu V.
On 9/7/10, Al wrote: > However, my concern was why the Gentoo community doesn't make use of > those cool features and officially only advertises and keeps a mailing > list, that has no history itself What do you mean by "no history"? http://archives.gentoo.org/ -- Arttu V. -- Running Gentoo is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread Al
> Al, > > Do everyone a favor. Go use Gmane and tell us what exactly > you'd be able to do that Gmane does not already do. > It's archived, search-able (via keywords) and many, many > other very cool features. I do you favour and confirm that it is a very cool web interface to newsgroups. It is es

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread James
Al googlemail.com> writes: > But that is something different from having a dedicated news server > for a technological project like news.gentoo.org. However that would > make only sense, if it is fully synchronized with the existing lists. > Else it would lead to an unnecessary split of the user

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread James
Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > We've been here a while and no-one has voiced a desire for a newsgroup. > Therefore there isn't one. @tampabay.rr.com (BrightHouse) I use: isp5.newshosting.com There is a news group called: linux.gentoo.user linux.gentoo.dev (etc etc) they exist! hth,

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoos community communication rant

2010-09-07 Thread James
ccs.covici.com> writes: > Isn't the list aggregated into that news site gmain or whatever its http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user It's quite a nice interface. The only limitation, is posting large text files, like xorg.conf. Or u can use usenet news for reading and no postin