Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-12-28 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 19.12.2011 12:36, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Am 19.12.2011 12:01, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > >> Built my kernel for a start, runs fine. >> Considering to emerge world after a nice backup ;-) > > correction: emerge system for a start ... sure ... update: running my ~amd64 system wit

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-12-19 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 19.12.2011 12:01, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Built my kernel for a start, runs fine. > Considering to emerge world after a nice backup ;-) correction: emerge system for a start ... sure ...

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-12-19 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 18.11.2011 01:04, schrieb Neil Bothwick: > If you're feeling adventurous, GCC 4.6, currently masked for > testing, has specific -march options for the i7 and Sandybridge i7, > according to the Gentoo Wiki CFLAGS page. Being adventurous now. compiled sys-devel/gcc-4.6.2, and set CFLAGS="-O2 -

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-24 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 24.11.2011 18:20, schrieb Michael Mol: > Never tried mix & match with Intel. I'd say it's worth a try, as long as > you can stay away from the proprietary drivers. Sounds likely you'll be > hunting for a new card, though. planning to get into my car after my first coffee ... thx, greets, Stefa

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-24 Thread Michael Mol
On Nov 24, 2011 11:33 AM, "Stefan G. Weichinger" wrote: > > Am 24.11.2011 16:06, schrieb Michael Mol: > > > Is the onboard video of the same chipset as your video card? If so, > > you should be able to run them just fine at the same time. I once had > > an onboard ATI chipset (HD3200) working toge

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-24 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 24.11.2011 16:06, schrieb Michael Mol: > Is the onboard video of the same chipset as your video card? If so, > you should be able to run them just fine at the same time. I once had > an onboard ATI chipset (HD3200) working together with a Radeon 5770 to > push five displays--two VGA, two DVI an

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-24 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 24.11.2011 10:53, schrieb Neil Bothwick: > >> Is there no on-board video? > > Yes, there is. > > yesterday: Enabled it, removed the PCIe-card, removed the "Do not > remove"-covers from the onboard-DVI-connectors > > Unfortunate

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-24 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 24.11.2011 10:53, schrieb Neil Bothwick: > Is there no on-board video? Yes, there is. yesterday: Enabled it, removed the PCIe-card, removed the "Do not remove"-covers from the onboard-DVI-connectors Unfortunately only one of these brings analog signal, the other one is DVI-D so it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 06:22:45 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > DVI-I outputs may be converted to VGA with a simple adapter; the > > connector at the computer contains both analog and digital > > signaling. > > If there is only one ... this results in one VGA-output only as well ... > and I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-23 Thread Michael Mol
Fair enough. :) ZZ On Nov 24, 2011 12:25 AM, "Stefan G. Weichinger" wrote: > Am 2011-11-24 00:45, schrieb Michael Mol: > > DVI-I outputs may be converted to VGA with a simple adapter; the > > connector at the computer contains both analog and digital signaling. > > If there is only one ... this

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-23 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2011-11-24 00:45, schrieb Michael Mol: > DVI-I outputs may be converted to VGA with a simple adapter; the > connector at the computer contains both analog and digital signaling. If there is only one ... this results in one VGA-output only as well ... and I need 2.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-23 Thread Michael Mol
DVI-I outputs may be converted to VGA with a simple adapter; the connector at the computer contains both analog and digital signaling. ZZ On Nov 23, 2011 5:42 PM, "Stefan G. Weichinger" wrote: > Am 2011-11-23 20:02, schrieb Michael Mol: > > > ISTR gcc's i7 optimizations giving someone in here tr

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-23 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2011-11-23 20:02, schrieb Michael Mol: > ISTR gcc's i7 optimizations giving someone in here trouble within the > last couple weeks. As I recall, they dropped back to march and mtune=core2. I don't expect wonders from the new compiler and its options. For now I am more constrained by the fact t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-23 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 23.11.2011 18:05, schrieb Michael Mol: > On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> >> Ad CFLAGS for i7-2600: >> >> Is that too much ricer-style? --> >> >> ### gcc -march=native -E -v - &1 | sed -n 's/.* -v - //p' >> >> CFLAGS="-O2 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -march=core2 -mcx16

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-23 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > > Ad CFLAGS for i7-2600: > > Is that too much ricer-style?  --> > > ### gcc -march=native -E -v - &1 | sed -n 's/.* -v - //p' > > CFLAGS="-O2 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -march=core2 -mcx16 -msahf -maes > -mpclmul -mpopcnt -mavx --param l1-ca

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-23 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Ad CFLAGS for i7-2600: Is that too much ricer-style? --> ### gcc -march=native -E -v - &1 | sed -n 's/.* -v - //p' CFLAGS="-O2 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -march=core2 -mcx16 -msahf -maes -mpclmul -mpopcnt -mavx --param l1-cache-size=32 --param l1-cache-line-size=64 --param l2-cache-size=8192 -mtune=g

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-21 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2011-11-21 09:45, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Am 18.11.2011 10:46, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: >> hardware order planned for next week maybe. > > Right now I consider simply skipping the "K"-CPU and get some pre-built > system w/ full guarantee and stuff (even the K-CPU is outdated soon,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-21 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 18.11.2011 10:46, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > hardware order planned for next week maybe. Right now I consider simply skipping the "K"-CPU and get some pre-built system w/ full guarantee and stuff (even the K-CPU is outdated soon, and the "normal" i7-2600 is also much faster than my C2D-E66

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-18 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2011-11-18 01:04, schrieb Neil Bothwick: > On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:13:31 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > >> Right now I have everything built with rather CPU-specific >> CFLAGS. >> >> Specific L1/L2-cache-sizes and stuff, set after doing something >> like "gcc -Q --help=target -march=nativ

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:13:31 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Right now I have everything built with rather CPU-specific CFLAGS. > > Specific L1/L2-cache-sizes and stuff, set after doing something like > "gcc -Q --help=target -march=native" (gentoo wiki). > > I wonder if this C2D-E6600-

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-17 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2011-11-17 11:44, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > Am 2011-11-17 02:27, schrieb Neil Bothwick: >> On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:33:24 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> >>> I think i7-2600k is the sweet spot right now. >> >> It's working nicely for me. I can't believe the difference in >> compile tim

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-17 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2011-11-17 02:27, schrieb Neil Bothwick: > On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:33:24 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > >> I think i7-2600k is the sweet spot right now. > > It's working nicely for me. I can't believe the difference in > compile times, it's almost like using a binary distro. Wow, sounds

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-16 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:27 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:33:24 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > >> I think i7-2600k is the sweet spot right now. > > It's working nicely for me. I can't believe the difference in compile > times, it's almost like using a binary distro. >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:33:24 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > I think i7-2600k is the sweet spot right now. It's working nicely for me. I can't believe the difference in compile times, it's almost like using a binary distro. > > What board did you choose? > Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3 It seemed

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 16.11.2011 20:23, schrieb Neil Bothwick: >> True but Intel's MSRP was just $10-15 more than a 2600K. Vendors >> decided to up the price a bit. Not uncommon with new products. > > That makes sense, if the old version is only a tenner less than the > new one, no one would buy it, so they get di

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:05:55 +0200, masterprometheus wrote: > > Yep. So Intel noticed "wow, we get a few of them which run stable even > > at 100MHz more, let's sell them for some more money" ;-) > > True but Intel's MSRP was just $10-15 more than a 2600K. Vendors > decided to up the price a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-16 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 16.11.2011 19:05, schrieb masterprometheus: > Oh I would definitly do that (overclock it I mean). But if there > isn't someone with the same name, you've said : > >> I ask myself if I need the K-version at all, I don't want to >> overclock ... > > Change of heart ? Understandable as these CPU

[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Another hardware thread

2011-11-16 Thread masterprometheus
Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 2011-11-16 16:22, schrieb masterprometheus: >> Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> >> >>> >>> I ask myself if I need the K-version at all, I don't want to >>> overclock >> >> No, if you're not going to overclock the K version is not needed. > > But as far as I read