Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc 4.7.3 --> 4.8.3

2014-11-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 23:52:22 -0500, Jonathan Callen wrote: > > Yes, things may be a little different with 4.9, but the last time a > > rebuild was really required was,AFAIR, somewhere around 3.3. > The last time a rebuild of (almost) everything was required was when > the C++ ABI changed, with th

[gentoo-user] Re: gcc 4.7.3 --> 4.8.3

2014-11-13 Thread Jonathan Callen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 11/11/2014 04:03 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 20:19:36 + (UTC), James wrote: >> >> Agreeded. But after a gcc update, I think it wise, especially >> since gcc-4.9 comethsoon? > > Yes, things may be a little different wi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc 4.7.3 --> 4.8.3

2014-11-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 02:07:23 + (UTC), James wrote: > > No, simply log out of the desktop and back in. > > Um, Tomas's little one-liner: > lsof -n | grep 'DEL.*lib' > > revealed far to much to deal with. I got lib issues coming out of my > arse (I've been hacking at a few things I do not fu

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc 4.7.3 --> 4.8.3

2014-11-11 Thread Dale
James wrote: > Dale gmail.com> writes: > >> After I do a major upgrade or --emptytree, I switch to boot runlevel, >> check with checkrestart and restart whatever it reports needs it. >> Generally, switching to boot runlevel catches most everything. > OK, so I emerge checkrestart and ran it. And t

[gentoo-user] Re: gcc 4.7.3 --> 4.8.3

2014-11-11 Thread James
> > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > After an emerge -e world, a reboot is probably best, another > > > > reason to avoid the unnecessary step of emerge -e world in > > > > the first place. > > This conflict what others have said. Curious. My take is that since > > I updated the major com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc 4.7.3 --> 4.8.3

2014-11-11 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 11 Nov 2014 21:03:56 Neil Bothwick wrote: > Why? The compiler is not used by running software. If there was an ABI > change meaning that mixing programs compiled with the two versions would > cause problem, emerge -e would be prudent, but that hasn't happened for a > long time. You don'

[gentoo-user] Re: gcc 4.7.3 --> 4.8.3

2014-11-11 Thread James
Tomas Mozes shmu.sk> writes: > >> Rebooting catches *everything* even better than --emptytree ? > > After an emerge -e world, a reboot is probably best, another > > reason to > > avoid the unnecessary step of emerge -e world in the first place. > Or you can check the list of processes

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc 4.7.3 --> 4.8.3

2014-11-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 20:19:36 + (UTC), James wrote: > Dale gmail.com> writes: > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > After an emerge -e world, a reboot is probably best, another > > > reason to avoid the unnecessary step of emerge -e world in > > > the first place. > > This conflict what others

[gentoo-user] Re: gcc 4.7.3 --> 4.8.3

2014-11-11 Thread James
Dale gmail.com> writes: > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> Rebooting catches *everything* even better than --emptytree ? > > --emptytree has nothing to do with rebooting. It simply forces emerge to > > rebuild everything in world and their dependencies. Once you have > > done, you will have daemons

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc 4.7.3 --> 4.8.3

2014-11-11 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:52:09 + (UTC), James wrote: > >>> I'd have thought you needed to emerge -e world if you really want to >>> be protected. >> Yea, maybe. I read the man page on emptytree. I get it actually replaces >> by a "reinstall". Does this do more than if I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc 4.7.3 --> 4.8.3

2014-11-10 Thread Tomas Mozes
On 2014-11-10 23:23, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:52:09 + (UTC), James wrote: > I'd have thought you needed to emerge -e world if you really want to > be protected. Yea, maybe. I read the man page on emptytree. I get it actually replaces by a "reinstall". Does this do mo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc 4.7.3 --> 4.8.3

2014-11-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:52:09 + (UTC), James wrote: > > I'd have thought you needed to emerge -e world if you really want to > > be protected. > > Yea, maybe. I read the man page on emptytree. I get it actually replaces > by a "reinstall". Does this do more than if I just reboot after > >

[gentoo-user] Re: gcc 4.7.3 --> 4.8.3

2014-11-10 Thread James
Peter Humphrey prh.myzen.co.uk> writes: > > You should be able to just switch to 4.8 without rebuilding anything. > > That's what I did. Of course it can't hurt to rebuild everything, but > > you can schedule that for later (like an overnight rebuild of world > > with --keep-going). It's not c

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc 4.7.3 --> 4.8.3

2014-11-09 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 08 November 2014 18:17:02 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 07/11/14 19:46, James wrote: > > Ok > > > > so I'm still on 4.7.3; but if I set 4.8.3 > > as the default, should I rebuild @system ? > > > > # gcc-config -l > > [1] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.7.3 * > > [2] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.

[gentoo-user] Re: gcc 4.7.3 --> 4.8.3

2014-11-08 Thread James
Nikos Chantziaras gmail.com> writes: > > I saw the news item about 4.8.3-SSP, which I think is a good idea, but > > how deeply, if at all, do I need to rebuild packages ? > You don't need to rebuild, although there are known problems with having > both 4.7 and 4.8 installed, and having 4.7 be

[gentoo-user] Re: gcc 4.7.3 --> 4.8.3

2014-11-08 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 07/11/14 19:46, James wrote: Ok so I'm still on 4.7.3; but if I set 4.8.3 as the default, should I rebuild @system ? # gcc-config -l [1] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.7.3 * [2] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.8.3 I saw the news item about 4.8.3-SSP, which I think is a good idea, but how deeply, if at