Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new machine : CPU : AMD FX-4100 ?

2012-07-30 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Michael Hampicke wrote: >> Spinning disks consume surprisingly little power once they're up to >> speed. My GPU, by comparison, doesn't seem to reduce heat generation >> very much when relatively idle. >> Idle on a GPU (in Linux) might be more when the screen is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new machine : CPU : AMD FX-4100 ?

2012-07-30 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 30.07.2012 19:14, schrieb Michael Mol: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:36 AM, James wrote: >> >>> >>> Amp meters are less than $50 USD. They clamp around the >>> power cord, or any wires inside the computer you can fit >>> the "clamp" around.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new machine : CPU : AMD FX-4100 ?

2012-07-30 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> MB power? >> Hard drive power? >> Hard disk power >> GPU power? >> DRAM power? >> >> The 5 above can easily become the dominant power hogs. >> >> I use an Intel i7 980X 6-core hyper-t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new machine : CPU : AMD FX-4100 ?

2012-07-30 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:36 AM, James wrote: > >> >> Amp meters are less than $50 USD. They clamp around the >> power cord, or any wires inside the computer you can fit >> the "clamp" around. > > >> >> hth, >> James >> >> > I haven't read t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new machine : CPU : AMD FX-4100 ?

2012-07-30 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:36 AM, James wrote: > > Amp meters are less than $50 USD. They clamp around the > power cord, or any wires inside the computer you can fit > the "clamp" around. > > hth, > James > > I haven't read this thread but I do use one of these which costs less than $20: http:/

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new machine : CPU : AMD FX-4100 ?

2012-07-30 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:36 PM, James wrote: > > >> > When you have full load, the CPU won't clock down. So nothing saved there. > >> When you're considering full load, the TDP becomes a useful estimation >> of relative power consumption between different processors. > >> > If you don't have fu

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new machine : CPU : AMD FX-4100 ?

2012-07-30 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag, 30. Juli 2012, 10:08:24 schrieb Michael Mol: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 2:16 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > On 30/07/12 07:28, Michael Mol wrote: > >> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Nikos Chantziaras > >> > >> wrote: > >>> On 30/07/12 06:08, Michael Mol wrote: > On Sun, Jul 2

[gentoo-user] Re: new machine : CPU : AMD FX-4100 ?

2012-07-30 Thread James
> > When you have full load, the CPU won't clock down. So nothing saved there. > When you're considering full load, the TDP becomes a useful estimation > of relative power consumption between different processors. > > If you don't have full load, the clock-down doesn't save much compared to >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new machine : CPU : AMD FX-4100 ?

2012-07-30 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 2:16 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 30/07/12 07:28, Michael Mol wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Nikos Chantziaras >> wrote: >>> >>> On 30/07/12 06:08, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >

[gentoo-user] Re: new machine : CPU : AMD FX-4100 ?

2012-07-29 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 30/07/12 07:28, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 30/07/12 06:08, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 30/07/12 05:23, Philip Webb wrote: i5-2550K & FX-4100 both use 95 W (some of the more cost

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new machine : CPU : AMD FX-4100 ?

2012-07-29 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 30/07/12 06:08, Michael Mol wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Nikos Chantziaras >> wrote: >>> >>> On 30/07/12 05:23, Philip Webb wrote: i5-2550K & FX-4100 both use 95 W (some of the more costly AMDs use

[gentoo-user] Re: new machine : CPU : AMD FX-4100 ?

2012-07-29 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 30/07/12 06:08, Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 30/07/12 05:23, Philip Webb wrote: i5-2550K & FX-4100 both use 95 W (some of the more costly AMDs use 125 W ). Note that power savings are not important if you're not using a laptop. CPU p

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new machine : CPU : AMD FX-4100 ?

2012-07-29 Thread Michael Mol
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 30/07/12 05:23, Philip Webb wrote: >> i5-2550K & FX-4100 both use 95 W >> (some of the more costly AMDs use 125 W ). > > > Note that power savings are not important if you're not using a laptop. CPU > power savings on a desktop don

[gentoo-user] Re: new machine : CPU : AMD FX-4100 ?

2012-07-29 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 30/07/12 05:23, Philip Webb wrote: Do I need > 4 cores ? If you do video encoding, run chess analysis or are building software all day long, a 6 core helps. But you don't "need" them. You only need 1 core. i5-2550K & FX-4100 both use 95 W (some of the more costly AMDs use 125 W ).