On Thu, 1 May 2008 22:41:23 +0100, Uwe Thiem wrote:
> > Implication? I obviously wasn't clear enough ;-)
>
> You were very clear. Some time ago, I offered you a Hansa Draught for
> some help if you ever happened to come to Windhoek. That offer is
> void now, and I'll drink the pint myself. Tr
On Thursday 01 May 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 1 May 2008 15:13:27 -0400, Brandon Mintern wrote:
> > I was mostly responding to Neil Bothwick's implication (even if
> > it was sarcastic) that using vim indicates bad things.
>
> Implication? I obviously wasn't clear enough ;-)
You were ver
On Thursday 01 May 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 1 May 2008 15:13:27 -0400, Brandon Mintern wrote:
> > I was mostly responding to Neil Bothwick's implication (even if
> > it was sarcastic) that using vim indicates bad things.
>
> Implication? I obviously wasn't clear enough ;-)
Hey, watch i
On Thursday 01 May 2008, Brandon Mintern wrote:
> I was mostly responding to Neil Bothwick's implication (even if
> it was sarcastic) that using vim indicates bad things.
Hey Neil,
Looks like we caught one - a big fish this time :-) :-)
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On Thu, 1 May 2008 15:13:27 -0400, Brandon Mintern wrote:
> I was mostly responding to Neil Bothwick's implication (even if
> it was sarcastic) that using vim indicates bad things.
Implication? I obviously wasn't clear enough ;-)
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Neil Bothwick
Just got a new car for my wifeGreat Trade!
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 3:06 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Brandon Mintern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Call me old school, but that method never takes me more than a few
> > minutes to do. I am also someone in the vim camp. It fires up quickly
>
> Unless you are updating a vmappliance
"Brandon Mintern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Call me old school, but that method never takes me more than a few
> minutes to do. I am also someone in the vim camp. It fires up quickly
Unless you are updating a vmappliance built on old (even for 2006)
2006 pkgs to current 2008 pkgs.
I know thi
My cleanup routine pretty much involves running vim on
/var/lib/portage/world and going down the list. If I see something I
definitely don't need, I remove that line. If I see something that I
don't remember what it was, in another terminal (just an ALT-TAB away)
I run "esearch package-name". After
Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> All kde all gnome all xorg for example, before update world.
>
> It seems fine in theory, but every time I've done it in real life I get
> into deep dependency trees that take more time to sort out than simply
> emerging world first.
>
> The trouble s
Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> vi was written by Bill Joy
> Bill Joy wrote lots of good stuff in BSD
> Our favourite OS owes a lot to BSD
> using vi pays homage to those magnificent BSD'ers of old
I second all the vi accolades.
I like the fact that Bill Joy was horribly drunk when
On Thursday 01 May 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 1 May 2008 10:30:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > > What a horrible suggestion, not only does it use vi - three
> > > times! - but it ends with a goto!
> >
> > Here's a much more horrible thing: In which way does the
> > suggestion, horrible
On Thursday 01 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > [2] vi /var/lib/portage/world
>
> What if I emerge -vC all I know I don't want.
>
> All kde all gnome all xorg for example, before update world.
It seems fine in theory, but every time I've done it in
On Thu, 1 May 2008 10:30:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > What a horrible suggestion, not only does it use vi - three times! -
> > but it ends with a goto!
>
> Here's a much more horrible thing: In which way does the suggestion,
> horrible as it is, depart from reality?
Your reality must be
On Thursday 01 May 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:17:34 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > [2] vi /var/lib/portage/world
> > Edit at will with sense of abandon
> > vi /etc/make.conf
> > Edit where appropriate
> > vi /etc/portage/*
> > Fearlessly
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:17:34 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> [2] vi /var/lib/portage/world
> Edit at will with sense of abandon
> vi /etc/make.conf
> Edit where appropriate
> vi /etc/portage/*
> Fearlessly edit throwing caution to the winds
> loop_entry:
>
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 3:31 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
> > [2] vi /var/lib/portage/world
>
> What if I emerge -vC all I know I don't want.
>
> All kde all gnome all xorg for example, before update world.
>
> I was hoping to accomplish much th
Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [2] vi /var/lib/portage/world
What if I emerge -vC all I know I don't want.
All kde all gnome all xorg for example, before update world.
I was hoping to accomplish much the same thing by editing world. But
strangely I see only a few candidates to de
On Wednesday 30 April 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Once I followed the recipe above all that disappeared along with the
> list error. I think that older version of portage was really what
> was causing most of the trouble.
Makes sense. Portage is rather fond of finding the kind of files and
Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
>> -p --depclean tells me:
>>
>> !!! You have no system list.
>>
>> What does that mean?
>
> Trouble, big trouble.
>
> Does /etc/make.profile point to an actual existing profile? That's the
> only thing I can think of that takes system away. It'
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > !!! Error: --with-bdeps=y is an invalid option.
>
> it's "--with-bdeps y" (no minus/dash)
>
So right you are Alan. Thanks.
Sorry to reader.
cheers,
Mark
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On Wednesday 30 April 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> "Mark Knecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > eix-sync
> > eix-test-obsolete
> > emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world
> > emerge -p --depclean
>
> -p --depclean tells me:
>
> !!! You have no system list.
>
> What does that mean?
Trouble, big t
"Mark Knecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:08 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> "Mark Knecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>
>> > eix-sync
>> > eix-test-obsolete
>> > emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world
>> > emerge -p --depclean
>>
>> -p --depclean tells me:
>>
>
On Wednesday 30 April 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> "Mark Knecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > eix-sync
> > eix-test-obsolete
> > emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world
> > emerge -p --depclean
> > emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world
> > revdep-rebuild -p
> > eix-test-obsolete
> >
> > Assuming eve
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:08 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Mark Knecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
> > eix-sync
> > eix-test-obsolete
> > emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world
> > emerge -p --depclean
>
> -p --depclean tells me:
>
> !!! You have no system list.
>
> What does that mea
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:00 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Mark Knecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > eix-sync
> > eix-test-obsolete
> > emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world
> > emerge -p --depclean
> > emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world
> > revdep-rebuild -p
> > eix-test-obsolete
>
"Mark Knecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> eix-sync
> eix-test-obsolete
> emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world
> emerge -p --depclean
-p --depclean tells me:
!!! You have no system list.
What does that mean?
Also:
emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world
neither man emerge nor man portage show
"Mark Knecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> eix-sync
> eix-test-obsolete
> emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world
> emerge -p --depclean
> emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world
> revdep-rebuild -p
> eix-test-obsolete
>
> Assuming everything is totally clean, or at least understood, now I
> change the pro
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Mark Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:49:25 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> >
> > > eix-sync
> > > eix-test-obsolete
> > > emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:49:25 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
> > eix-sync
> > eix-test-obsolete
> > emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world
> > emerge -p --depclean
> > emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world
> > revdep-rebuild -p
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:49:25 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> eix-sync
> eix-test-obsolete
> emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world
> emerge -p --depclean
> emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world
> revdep-rebuild -p
> eix-test-obsolete
I'd run the first eix-test-obsolete after emerge --depclean since adding.
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:39 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm going to try a saner approach to getting it updated. I thought
> the first move would be to set the make.profile to 2007 then
> emerge --sync
>
Before changing the profile are you clean with emerge -pvDuN
--with-bdeps=y world
Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> unpack gpm-1.20.3.tar.lzma: file format not recognized. Ignoring.
>
> There was a post earlier today about this very thing. Check today's
> inbox for more details. Apparently you need a very recent portage to
> use this feature, so I would suggest you
On Wednesday 30 April 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Seems like you got to a working state - unorthodox method, but it does
seem to have worked :-)
> But now that blockage is solved... I'm getting a failure in the
> dependancy gpm when I try to emerge -vu portage.
>
> I've included that failur
Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
>> I cannot seem to get past a kernel panic that appears to be expecting
>> an intramfs (You may remember this from a previous thread) After
>> hand rolling 3 different kernels and trying genkernal all its all
>> ended in the same kernel panic
On Wednesday 30 April 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> I'd like to jump an 2006 install up to 2008. I've never made that
> >> big an update without a fresh install.
> >
> > There's no such thing as a "2006 install". What does exist, is the
> > collect
Well I am not sure, but maybe there is a way of adding more space on
your appliance, if neccessary.
The idea that strikes me, is you could use your current appliance as
the Gentoo-life-system and you install a new machine in that free
area, chroot to it and work further. Really the classical fresh
Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> I'd like to jump an 2006 install up to 2008. I've never made that
>> big an update without a fresh install.
>
> There's no such thing as a "2006 install". What does exist, is the
> collection of packages that were on the LiveCDs released in 2006. It's
Etaoin Shrdlu wrote:
> I don't want to comment about the change. However, you could have found
> out easily all the available profiles by doing "eselect profile list":
That's a cool eselect module, didn't know about that. I don't change
profiles all that often (duh), and end up having to search
Ian Graeme Hilt wrote:
>
> Download the 2008 minimal install cd and install.
>
> Frankly, updating a 2006 install to 2008 is counter-productive. You'll
> have a much easier time doing a fresh 2008 install.
Why? If he kept his box up-to-date, there are just going to be some slight
changes in th
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