Re: [gentoo-user] VMs - what technology would you advise?

2014-12-31 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 31 Dec 2014 07:32:18 Sid S wrote: I would suggest QEMU/KVM takes the place of VirtualBox. I've not actually found anything it doesn't support, though VirtualBox is far more polished. Starting a VM will be as easy as running a shell script (or you can use virt-manager). Thanks

Re: [gentoo-user] VMs - what technology would you advise?

2014-12-31 Thread Sid S
Yes, in favor of KVM. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=intel_haswell_virtualization http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=ubuntu_1404_kvmboxt On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 31 Dec 2014 07:32:18 Sid S wrote: I

Re: [gentoo-user] VMs - what technology would you advise?

2014-12-31 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 31 Dec 2014 12:47:55 Sid S wrote: Yes, in favor of KVM. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=intel_haswell_virtualiza tion http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=ubuntu_1404_kvmboxt Vbox seems to be coming last by quite some margin in the intel tests! I

Re: [gentoo-user] VMs - what technology would you advise?

2014-12-31 Thread Bill Kenworthy
On 31/12/14 21:26, Mick wrote: On Wednesday 31 Dec 2014 12:47:55 Sid S wrote: Yes, in favor of KVM. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=intel_haswell_virtualiza tion http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=ubuntu_1404_kvmboxt Vbox seems to be coming last by quite

Re: [gentoo-user] VMs - what technology would you advise?

2014-12-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 31 Dec 2014 12:47:55 Sid S wrote: Vbox seems to be coming last by quite some margin in the intel tests! I also read this article and it looks that vbox is thankfully doing better on AMD; but there are

Re: [gentoo-user] VMs - what technology would you advise?

2014-12-31 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 09:42:11 AM Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 31 Dec 2014 12:47:55 Sid S wrote: Vbox seems to be coming last by quite some margin in the intel tests! I also read this article and it

Re: [gentoo-user] VMs - what technology would you advise?

2014-12-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 10:00 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: The thing lacking from KVM (and I believe also Containers) is that the memory contents are not included in snapshots. Making the snapshots basically result in an unclean-shutdown scenario. Which is ok-ish as a backup,

Re: [gentoo-user] VMs - what technology would you advise?

2014-12-31 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Wednesday, December 31, 2014 10:35:04 AM Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 10:00 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: The thing lacking from KVM (and I believe also Containers) is that the memory contents are not included in snapshots. Making the snapshots basically

Re: [gentoo-user] VMs - what technology would you advise?

2014-12-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 31/12/2014 18:18, J. Roeleveld wrote: Some of the software we deal with can take up to 30 minutes to fully shutdown and re-initialize. (Gotta love those huge enterprise-level BI applications) Very OT: Mrs Alan wants to know: BusinessObjects XI r3? {apparently she's had bad experiences in

Re: [gentoo-user] VMs - what technology would you advise?

2014-12-31 Thread Sid S
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: Vbox seems to be coming last by quite some margin in the intel tests! I also read this article and it looks that vbox is thankfully doing better on AMD; but there are differences in the versions and kernels used between the

Re: [gentoo-user] VMs - what technology would you advise?

2014-12-31 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 31 December 2014 18:33:25 CET, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 31/12/2014 18:18, J. Roeleveld wrote: Some of the software we deal with can take up to 30 minutes to fully shutdown and re-initialize. (Gotta love those huge enterprise-level BI applications) Very OT: Mrs Alan

Re: [gentoo-user] VMs - what technology would you advise?

2014-12-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Sid S r03...@gmail.com wrote: Containers and such definitely sound interesting; I had been avoiding Linux VMs for the longest time due to the overhead. The alternatives sound rather light so I might reconsider. There are a couple of ways to go with them. The

[gentoo-user] VMs - what technology would you advise?

2014-12-30 Thread Mick
For years now I have been running VirtualBox for testing purposes. It has served the users' needs well, but I have set up a new PC and am wondering if I am missing out on new tricks. The VMs are launched may be a couple of times a week for an hour or two, to test website designs on different

Re: [gentoo-user] VMs - what technology would you advise?

2014-12-30 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On 12/30/2014 02:52 PM, Mick wrote: For years now I have been running VirtualBox for testing purposes. It has served the users' needs well, but I have set up a new PC and am wondering if I am missing out on new tricks. The VMs are launched may be a couple of times a week for an hour or

Re: [gentoo-user] VMs - what technology would you advise?

2014-12-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/12/2014 21:52, Mick wrote: For years now I have been running VirtualBox for testing purposes. It has served the users' needs well, but I have set up a new PC and am wondering if I am missing out on new tricks. The VMs are launched may be a couple of times a week for an hour or two,

Re: [gentoo-user] VMs - what technology would you advise?

2014-12-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: For years now I have been running VirtualBox for testing purposes. I used to run vbox, but ran into some issues along the way and switched to KVM, with virt-manager as a front-end. It is a bit more complicated to get

Re: [gentoo-user] VMs - what technology would you advise?

2014-12-30 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 30 Dec 2014 22:01:00 Rich Freeman wrote: On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: For years now I have been running VirtualBox for testing purposes. I used to run vbox, but ran into some issues along the way and switched to KVM, with virt-manager as

Re: [gentoo-user] VMs - what technology would you advise?

2014-12-30 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, December 30, 2014 07:52:44 PM Mick wrote: For years now I have been running VirtualBox for testing purposes. It has served the users' needs well, but I have set up a new PC and am wondering if I am missing out on new tricks. The VMs are launched may be a couple of times a week

Re: [gentoo-user] VMs - what technology would you advise?

2014-12-30 Thread Sid S
I would suggest QEMU/KVM takes the place of VirtualBox. I've not actually found anything it doesn't support, though VirtualBox is far more polished. Starting a VM will be as easy as running a shell script (or you can use virt-manager).